Split emerges in West's front against Iran: diplomats

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The European Union and Washington are split over an EU proposal to offer Iran a generous package of incentives including nuclear reactors and security pledges if it stops enriching uranium, diplomats said on Saturday. The EU draft offer of a package of incentives in exchange for a suspension of enrichment has caused a split in the West's previously united position on Iran since Washington has serious reservations about the European plan, EU diplomats said.

The plan will be discussed in London on Wednesday by senior officials from the "EU3", the United States, Russia and China, an EU diplomat familiar with the EU3's preliminary draft proposal told Reuters. "We agreed to offer Iran a nuclear power plant and possibly more along with support for an international (nuclear) fuel consortium to guarantee fuel for civilian nuclear activity," the diplomat said on condition of anonymity.

Russia and China are expected to support the plan but Washington is concerned about the idea of supporting a regional security framework in the Middle East and exempting EU firms from U.S. penalties if they do business with Iran. "We're still looking at it and we've not yet decided our position," Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns told Reuters, adding he would deliver the U.S. response at the London meeting.

A British Foreign Office spokesman said public discussion of the EU proposal's contents was "premature" and indicated that there was no guarantee Iran would be offered any reactors. "The possible supply of a light-water reactor for Iran is still under consideration," he said. EU diplomats said Washington was uncomfortable with the idea of offering Iran any reactors at this point and was loathe to ask Congress to exempt EU firms from U.S. penalties for doing business with Iran in the nuclear field.

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[bemildred]

1. How about: "US isolated in Iran row" nt

[Spazito]

2. Exactly!

Russia, China, the EU are not supporting the bush cabal's obvious attempts to beat the war drum over Iran. Poor Bolton, just imagine the temper tantrums going behind his closed doors given he is famous for them.

[leftchick]

5. yes indeed

that is exactly right.

[ConcernedCanuk]

3. If Iran's neighbors, especially Russia and China ain't worried

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Why is the USA so concerned??

Feckadee - even a 10-year old could figure out that Iran is of no threat to America

Well, they could be a bit of a threat to the USA's goal of global domination - but Russia and China would soon stop that.

My personal opinion is that the USA is blowing smoke so that they can set up bases to attack Russia and China - and Iran is sort of in the way

Think about China for a second - they've only fought to keep their own territory

They will fight like hell to keep it - and bet your butt they've got Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles aimed at the USA as I write - same with Russia

So WHAT IN HELL does the USA think they are doing messing around with one of their neighbors?

AHH

The stupidity of an Emperor

King George will destroy the USA with his arrogance

I am no longer comfortable that the USA lies on our southern border

And am feeling safer by the day knowing that Russia and China are above our Northern Pole

How times change . . . .

(sigh)

[AnOhioan]

6. You said a mouthful

"I am no longer comfortable that the USA lies on our southern border

And am feeling safer by the day knowing that Russia and China are above our Northern Pole"


Even through the crap of the Reagan and Poppy Bush years I always knew there was a line we would not cross. Now with Dimson in charge we are crossing that line into totalitarianism...scares the hell out of me.

I can forsee a world of hurt heading our way. Yet the pResident thinks all is well...the man is seriously brain-damaged.

The November elections will tell all...if the right wing maintains or increases its power then the slide into fascism will be complete.

[ConcernedCanuk]

10. Stop blaming GW - he is just a puppet of the PNACers

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He (GW) doesn't have the brains to dream up the schemes he is promoting.

His puppeteers keep him happy bicycling around his "ranch" while the world goes ballistic

George is nothing more than a political trained actor - He's got fewer real balls than Laura

GeeDub is just a figurehead - a point-man - and eventually - the "fall guy" when it all falls apart

The PNACers already have their next pretzeldent picked out

Voting will just be a formality

Democracy as a reality in the USA is dead

UNLESS y'all wake up and do some serious revolt

But

I sorta doubt that

("change the channel honey, this is too depressing")

(sigh)

[AnOhioan]

11. I am not saying Georgie-boy did all this himself

I know it goes far deeper than one mental midget.

That is what scares me....the people pulling the strings are not f***ing around.

[ConcernedCanuk]

15. "the people pulling the strings" are the Freemasons/Illuminati

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and Have been doing so for quite some time . . .

and you are quite correct

They are NOT f***ing around

They have a global goal

MORE on the Freemasons and the Illuminati

From the above link:

" December 13, 2000 - George Bush Jr. Becomes the 43rd President of the United States. Confirmed member Skull and Bones. George W. Admits to being a Member of The Skull and Bones to Time Magazine Also a member of the Council On Foreign Relations. Confirmed Mason. Bush is closely related to every European monarch on and off the throne -- including the King of Albania -- and has kinship with every member of Britain's royal family, the House of Windsor. He is a 13th cousin of Britain's Queen Mother, and of her daughter Queen Elizabeth and is a 13th cousin once removed of the heir to the throne, Prince Charles. Bush's family tree can be documented as far back as the early 15th century. He has a direct descent from Henry III and from Henry VIII's sister Mary Tudor, who was also the wife of Louis XI of France. He is also descended from Charles II of England. George Bush Jr. And the Number 13"
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LOTS of more links on this sort of info at the above link

A wee bit scary, really . . .

[leesa]

13. He knows exactly what's going on...his role is to play the fool

He is a treasonous murderer and he has been involved every step of the way.

[nguoihue]

14. bush the puppet

Right on the money Concerned Canuk !

[cliss]

7. There was an article about 1 year ago

about Iran. (I'm paraphrasing)

"WE lost Iran in 1979, and the loss has been irreconcilable. In fact, we have not recovered from it".

Meaning = the US lost its Crown Jewel of them all, the Shcherazade 1,001 Nights, Aladdin's Lamp, Saladin's Cave treasure beyond belief.

Today, all of the Middle East is a client state of the US, except Syria. Only one country stands up to the US, and that's Iran.

It's a huge thorn in their side in Washington. To make matters worse, the country is now run by mullahs. Also, I just read that while Saudi Arabia's oil fields will start declining, Iran could in fact have the world's #1 supply of oil (so far, it's just speculation).

This must drive them absolutely CRAZY in Washington.

[ConcernedCanuk]

9. USA has armed subs in the Mediterranean and the Persian Gulf

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It is furiously building bases in Iraq while it ignores the needs of the Iraqi citizens it was supposedly "freeing" from a tyrant . .

Well, meet the NEW Tyrant.

Worse than the one they had before

And polluting the country at the same time with REAL Weapons of Mass Destruction - Depleted Uranium - birth defects have risen 400% since they used Depleted Uranium in the first massacre of Iraqis in 1991

Bush 1 & 2 got Hitler beat by millions when it comes to genocide

When will the world wake up and realize it?

Alas, whenever it is, it will be too late

Depleted Uranium has a half life of millenniums

(sigh)

[Truthy Nessy]

4. I am getting alerts each day on Iran

A great way to keep a wide variety of news alerts and opinions on Iran and its "nukular" ambitions and the effect this has on the world is to have Google alerts sent to your mail. It's very enlightening.
NYT has an article today on this matter of split.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/20/world/middleeast/20diplo.html?th&emc=th
Excerpt: "Hard-liners in the Bush administration and other countries, particularly Israel, are worried that time is wasting and that Iran is about to reach a "point of no return," when it will have the technology and expertise to produce weapons on its own, even though that may take years. In the proposed European package for Iran, there is still no agreement with Russia on sanctions. Russia has said it will not endorse a United Nations Security Council resolution that would make Iran's compliance mandatory."

Many in the world of finance and in news articles believe that the USA is more concerned about the Iranian Bourse than the nuclear enrichment. Selling oil in Euros will cheapen the US dollar. Unfortunately for the USA Russia will be starting their own oil bourse, selling in rubles. This is not good for the old USA buck.

I believe that like the Crusaders of old Europe times Bush is going to have his army go to the MidEast. A friend called yesterday. His Marine son is heading for a California Marine base for a month then he will be shipping out to Iran. Does that mean anything?

[teryang]

8. It's the old "lightwater reactor" plus incentives trick that NK took

...a mistake that almost destroyed their regime. I thought I heard that Iran had already rejected this offer.

All this publicity about the offer and the apparent absence of news about Iran over the last several days during the market meltdown struck me as very suspicious. I think the G7 finance ministers want bush et al or at least the media to shut the F..k up about his military plans for Iran. The economic damage his administration is inflicting on the world monetary system is already virtually beyond repair.

[daleo]

12. Prepare for OINK (Operation Iran Nuclear Knockout)

To go along with OIL (Operation Iraqi Liberation) and OAF (Operation Afghanistan Freedom).