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corporatemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:34 AM
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Phil. Inq.: Santorum calls Casey a 'thug' in residency flap
Edited on Sun May-21-06 01:03 AM by corporatemedia

Santorum calls Casey a 'thug' in residency flap

The senator says his rival's operatives trespassed on his Penn Hills property. Not true, Casey says.


By Carrie Budoff
Inquirer Staff Writer
Sen. Rick Santorum yesterday called his Democratic opponent, Bob Casey Jr., a "thug" - a comment prompted by Democratic efforts this week to renew focus on the senator's residency.
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/pennsylvania/14626414.htm


And he's HIDING BEHIND HIS CHILDREN -

AGAIN.


T-RICKY has no curtains, furniture, or rug.
To cover up his lies, he calls Bob C. a THUG!

http://santorumcybergate.blogspot.com/2006/05/t-ricky-has-no-curtains-furniture-or.html

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:37 AM
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1. Santorum is pathetic
Why doesn't he take his family and go to the hills to await the rapture?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:43 AM
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9. Or create their own little rapture.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:40 AM
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2. Oh yeah? A thug? Well, I call Santorum...
Edited on Sun May-21-06 12:41 AM by IntravenousDemilo
...the frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex, so there, Ricky!
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diamondsndust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:59 AM
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4. you owe me a keyboard and monitor!! LOL.... n/t
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 03:23 AM
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13. He is never going to be able to escape that.
God I love Dan Savage.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 03:27 PM
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34. Not if I can help it.
Me too. And despite how he sees himself, he's damn cute.

Every time we post the definition of Santorum as "the frothy mix of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex" is one more hit that keeps it at the top of the Google page. And I just did it again.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:38 AM
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39. while I find that funny...in some parts of PA that wouldn't play so well
and it could cost Casey votes...because...this whole house issue is actually an issue between the Vecchio's (local Democrats in Penn Hills) and Santorum. The Vecchios don't feel that Santorum is a resident of Penn Hills (he really isn't) and their school district has been robbed of funds to home school pRicky's kids....SOOOOOOOO pRicky knows he gets no political capitol going after the Vecchio's...so he goes after Casey...

Now the frothy joke is funny but you wait...it will end up being used against Casey and it will paint his followers as crass...rude..etc... just wait and see...

Might as well get the popcorn out now...this race is only going to get uglier...
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 05:29 PM
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45. The definition of Santorum as "the frothy mix of lube and fecal matter
that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex" has been around for a while. I don't know that my mentioning it a few times here will make much difference as against the thousands of other times that pushed it to #1 on Google.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:25 PM
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46. How does a guy like Sanitorium, not poor, get taxpayer $$ to homeschool
Edited on Thu Jun-01-06 08:27 PM by Mayberry Machiavelli
his kids?

Can any joe schmo say "I'm homeschooling my kids" in PA and get 38K or whatever? :shrug:

Also, how did this pinhead ever get elected in the first place? I'm a bit disappointed, while I'm glad PA has been pretty solid as a blue state, I thought folks were a bit smarter than to vote for a loser like this...
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diamondsndust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:57 AM
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3. If he has nothing to hide....
what is his problem?? All he has to do is go open the door of the house to a TV news crew and be done with it one way or the other. If there is a question about his residency, it should be fully investigated and let the TRUTH come out. Freakin' corrupt bums... I can't stand any of these repukes and wish they would just go extinct or something.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:02 AM
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5. Ricky, you got some "splainin" to do
You pathetic little asshat
:grr:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 09:50 AM
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41. Pubbies don't explain, they attempt to distract & the M$M assists
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:11 AM
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6. Ricky was elected with Scaife (Vast RW Conspiracy) Money
to defeat Progressive Incumbent Harris Wofford.

Wofford committed several unabashed "unpardonable" sins:

    * He had been Director of the Peace Corps
    * He was a major backer (in the Senate) of Single Payer, Universal Health Care
    * He was part of the old "Dilworth-Clark Noblesse Oblige Establishment"


Rickie is a "dork" - but Western Pennsylvania elects dorks like Pete Flaherty and Tom Murphy on the Dem side and Bob Duggan and Jim Roddie on the GOP side. And of course Pat Toomey.

Pennsylvania is a good state to be FROM - certainly beats being IN Pennsylvania.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 04:28 AM
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14. What is it with your need to attack Pete Flaherty, "a brilliant pioneer in
the populist style"? (See quote below).You have done it before and I let it pass, but now that his son is a newly elected Dem. member of the House of Representatives, in a recent special election which Dems in the state hailed as indicating a trend away from the GOP (Flaherty ended over 30 years of the GOP holding that seat) and will be up for reelection in November, and he represents MY district, I would personally like to ask you to put up or shut up about Pete Flaherty. I am including a link to Pete Flaherty's obit, which includes quotes from 3 well known political observers. There ARE a group of old timers in Allegheny County who still hate Pete Flaherty, but that's because when he cleaned up the old machine system in City Hall they or a relative lost their politically connected job. Yes! the payroll was padded with politically connected people, and they belonged to unions. I am a big union supporter but - oh jeez! I know this will be a shock to you, but unions sometimes get corrupted! I would really like to know what Pete Flaherty did to you that merits your condemnation decades later.

There are a lot of 2nd and 3rd generation elected politicians in our country, in both parties. In some cases they don't bring much to the ballot but their well known names. But as for the Dems, they often bring their dad's political philosophy and a commitment to public service which I admire. That is the case with Shawn Flaherty, who was a law school classmate, but not a personal friend, of mine. FYI, he is a 40-something lawyer who made more money as an attorney than he will make as a state legislator, and his area of expertise was very successfully representing homeowners getting screwed by the County's out-of-date and unfair property tax assessment system. I know that the Pittsburgh firefighters were out campaigning door to door for Shawn, so THEY didn't harbor any resentment toward how his Dad ran Pittsburgh. Again, what is your agenda here? Also, Pete was an Air Force WW II vet who saw active duty in the Pacific. You bill yourself as a Vietnam vet.
Go find some Republicans to attack! When you attack the memory of Shawn's dad, you are attacking Shawn - because he is very proud of his Dad's FORTY YEARS of public service and he still tears up when talking about his Dad.

www.post-gazette.com/pg/05109/490421.stm

Obituary: Pete Flaherty dies at 80
Former mayor and county commissioner
Tuesday, April 19, 2005

By James O'Toole, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



Peter F. Flaherty, a pivotal figure in Pittsburgh politics who brought reform and charisma to city hall while challenging the city's party and business establishments, has died.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pete Flaherty: Four decades of public service

In a public career that spanned four decades, Mr. Flaherty, 80, was three times the Democratic nominee for statewide office, served as deputy U.S. attorney general and was a county commissioner for 12 years. But by far his most profound impact came as mayor of Pittsburgh, an office he captured proclaiming himself "Nobody's Boy," distancing himself from the Democratic organization that had produced every Pittsburgh mayor since the Great Depression.

Mr. Flaherty's 1970 inauguration was bracketed by the deaths of David L. Lawrence, the former mayor and governor, and Richard King Mellon, the powerful business leader who, in a unique and productive partnership with Lawrence, helped to remake Pittsburgh in the years after World War II.
Mr. Flaherty's maverick candidacy and administration recognized and exploited dissatisfaction with the top-down civic structure those men had created. His rise also reflected larger national political currents in an era marked by the increasing assertiveness of civil rights and community groups outside the traditional political order.As mayor, Mr. Flaherty won overwhelming public popularity, but continued to antagonize established interests as he emphasized a streamlined and reformed approach to government. He trimmed the city payroll and repeatedly cut taxes while shifting development priorities toward neighborhoods beyond the Downtown core.

"He was a very significant figure,'' said Joel Tarr, a Carnegie Mellon University historian. "He capitalized on the waves of unhappiness with the Pittsburgh Renaissance and, I think, also the fact that the '60s were such a traumatic decade ... he was a breath of fresh air at a time that it was required." Morton Coleman, of the University of Pittsburgh's Institute of Politics, called Mr. Flaherty "a leader in understanding that the traditional organization was weakening and a new kind of personal politics was strengthening."

"He was a brilliant pioneer in the new fiscal populist mayoral style," said Terry Nichols Clark, a scholar on urban issues at the University of Chicago, who studied Mr. Flaherty's administration. "He invented a whole style of politics ... he came from a left Democratic Party background and he combined it with fiscal conservatism, fighting business, fighting labor unions, fighting interests groups of all sorts."

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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:00 AM
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20. I never was a Pete fan
Edited on Sun May-21-06 09:03 AM by Coastie for Truth
1. The issue of Skybus. I know we have disagreed about this, (i.e., Beechview stops, Mt Washington, tc.). The point is - Skybus was the beginning of the second era era of rapid transit contraction (new Paris Metro extensions, San Francisco BART, DC Metro, etc.) -- and Westinghouse was in a position to "grow" new industry in Pittsburgh. Pete just guessed wrong.

2. Skybus - Part II. The racial attacks -- that Skybus would make it "easier for the bad element to get into good neighborhoods."

3. Skybus - Part III. The divisive attacks that Skybus would serve the "fancy people of Mt Lebanon first."

4. Skybus - Part IV. Pitting the North Side against the East End (Fifth Avenue) for the "next" line.

5. I was close with people who had worked on the Skybus - Martie Wahl ar CMU, Ron Neufeld at Pitt, Dave Bond at PAT, Jim Saklas at US DOT (who had worked on San Francisco BART) and knew a lot of the technical, city planning, and architectural issues. I am not just a (former) Shadyside-Squirrel Hill Loud Mouth; I actually have some engineering training (Undergrad at CMU, PhD from Pitt)

6. I had several long chats with Pete - one on one (I lived in Shadyside when I first got out of the service, used to ride into downtown on the 77C with him), and he was totally unconvincing. I don't think Pete had a command of the issues.

7. He seemed to be obsessed with running against Whiskey Joe Barr and the Commissioners -- and built his anti-Skybus campaign around being contrary to Barr and the Commissioners (I happened to know both Leonard Staisey and Tom Foerster personally).

8. His brother Jim (and Jim's law firm) made a killing on the subway rights of way under Fifth Avenue.

9. He guessed wrong-
a. He drove Westinghouse out of Pittsburgh and out of transit equipment (they sold that business to ABB)
b. He almost drove PPG to Detroit when he fought PPG Place (3000 downtown Pgh jobs)
c. He pretty much drove ALCOA out of downtown Pittburgh (1400 jobs).

10. He totally failed to take the lead on civil and peaceful school integration.

11. Pittsburgh now is dysfunctional - population fell significantly, business fell (and its not just Pittsburgh - it is all of Southwestern PA).

12. Being a Big City Mayor in the 1970's was difficult everywhere - especially with the schools (where he could have set a moral or PR tone as the Mayor).

13. I am no outsider - my great grand parents came to Allegheny County from Poland (had cousins who were Pittsburgh and McKeesport cops and firefighters in the 1800's), built businesses and raised families in Pittsburgh. I am a product of the Pittsburgh Public Schools, Carnegie "Tech", and Pitt's graduate school. I really was not anxious to leave - but the city died around me. And, yes, I blame Pete.


14. I left Pittsburgh 3 months before my company downsized my department.
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:33 AM
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29. You grossly oversimplify the history of Skybus
Thank you for your lengthy answer. It seems to boil down primarily to Skybus, and that you didn't think Pete "had a command of the issues" when you used to ride into town on the same bus (as an aside, how commendable for a big city mayor to ride the bus every day - never heard of any of the others doing that - or was that after he was no longer in office?) As to Skybus, I am familiar with it's rise and fall, and stunned at your attempt to ignore the myriad of local, state and federal governmental agencies, public - private partnerships; "industry targeting"; the competitive technology advanced by another local business (WABCO, i.e,. ANOTHER Westinghouse company, Westinghouse Airbrake Co. ); the elitist nature of the Skybus transit plan in bypassing many blue collar and black communities in Allegheny County in favor of the wealthy suburbs, the Port Authority's heel dragging and elitist composition and attitudes, and serious safety and maintenance issues. (Even to this day the Port Authority board will sponsor fireworks night at a Pirates game, while their bigwigs lounge in a skybox. Like people will say, oh, I guess I'll start riding the bus because PAT pays for fireworks for those wealthy enough to be able to afford to go to a game at the stadium. Wrong! Working people ride the bus based on routes and schedules. In your day, the Port Authority Board was 70% corporate representatives; as of 5 years ago when I had dealings with them, may I just say, you'll see a wide variety of Rolexes, but our working classes are paying through the nose for poor bus service.)

I refer you to this detailed history of the Skybus fiasco:
www.industrystudies.pitt.edu/papers/skybus.pdf

(Here's a sample of what you will learn.)
Although in a manner more appropriate to its status as a full member of the corporate community, WABCO echoed Flaherty's position by complaining that PAT had not allowed time for a proper response and tried to muzzle their Metro plan. Flaherty concluded that "an emotional commitment by the majority of the PAT Board and the Pittsburgh industrial establishment to the Skybus plan" precluded change in the plan filed in Washington. PAT and not Westinghouse discussed the Early Action Program and Skybus. Flaherty's opposition to the technology was a direct attack on the feasibility of the Westinghouse rapid transit system. Despite the various engineering studies that certified Skybus, Flaherty continued to raise doubts about the safety and reliability of the
automated, unmanned trains. More than 20 years later, (now county commissioner) Flaherty offered the following scenarios to illustrate his fears:
lxxvii Ibid. Flaherty also noted that while WABCO presented its plan at the hearings,
(1)"Picture, if you will, a young, female office worker in downtown
Pittsburgh who finishes her workday and afterwards goes shopping or to a
restaurant, and about 9:00 p.m. goes to the Skybus Station for her trip home to
ML Lebanon. A Skybus car pulls into the station, automatically operated by a
computer. I.e. doors open automatically after the car stops and a voice from a
cassette says "Please enter." The young woman sees only two men on the car. If
she gets on, she will be alone with two strangers through the tunnel and up into
the first stop in Beechview.
(2)An older couple in their seventies get on at South Hills Junction to go
downtown. On the way, an electrical storm or electrical malfunction causes a
power failure. The car stops on the concrete piers 40 feet or so above ground
level. How do they get out? It's somewhat like being on an elevator between
floors without power.
(3) Vandals throw old tires and junk on the track. The train, which has no operator,
plows into the debris and is jammed to a stop. Passengers on board are placed in
an unsafe situation.
(4)Ice and snow storms have similar hazards if heavy enough. There are no snow
plows up there (on the elevated routeway).Leland Hazard.
lxxviii Letter, Peter Flaherty to Morton Coleman, August 21, 1991.

Westinghouse's Jernstedt concurred that the technological issues all boiled down to concerns for
safety and that PAT knew by 1968 that these concerns would be discussed. Hazard
believed that WABCO's attack on the technology was really instigated by a
"feud" between the Westinghouse siblings over their traditional policy of not competing
in certain fields of business. WABCO felt that Westinghouse was encroaching on their
transportation business. Interview with George W. Jernstedt.

Flaherty argued further that the proposed routes did not serve enough of the poor and working people of the county and city. Neither the Monongahela Valley, nor most of the city's neighborhoods, had access to the South Hills route. Studies agreed that the most densely populated corridor was to the east, running through the city to the near suburbs. If Skybus or any fixed route system were to be built, the eastern route was the logical choice. However, this route went through at least one and probably two of the largest African-American neighborhoods in the region. In contrast, the proposed route to the South Hills connected white middle and upper middle class suburbs to the city’s
downtown.In the rising spirit of populism and civil rights militancy of the late 1960s, it was difficult to defend this apparently biased choice of route.lxxix
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 12:00 PM
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30. Disagree - that is a rehash of the Flaherty-Hunt 1969 line
"you didn't think Pete "had a command of the issues" when you used to ride into town on the same bus (as an aside, how commendable for a big city mayor to ride the bus every day - never heard of any of the others doing that - or was that after he was no longer in office?)"
    That was when he was a candidate running for office.

    On the othet hand, Dick Caliguiri's son and my son were on the same Little League team - and we used to see Dick all of the time at St. Philomoena's and Frick Park.

I think I understood the technical issues -- as a Board Certified PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER and a graduate of the two finest engineering schools in the USA - Pitt and Tech, and a survivor of Rickover's Bettis Lab.

And I was a Democratic County Committee member - and carried my District for Dr Ivan Itkin.

You mention "Westinghouse's Jernstedt" - I went to Tech with his son - we were in the same freshman section.

I am very familiar with the so-called safety issues -- I fly USAir's AirBus 320's between PIT and SFO regularly (as in the one that landed with a cabin fire at Cleveland Hopkins in 2/2002), and I take the BART between Fremont and San Francisco regularly -- same kind of issues, including the Oakland Fruitvale and Lake Merritt Stations (plus the Trans Bay Tunnel - under San Francisco Bay -- right between the San Andreas and Hayward Faults)
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Divernan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:32 PM
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31. You say rehash, I say detailed accounting & history.
Just because something is rehashed does not mean it is not true or credible. There were many factors at play, and if PAT and certain other powers had agreed to modify their system/routes so it would serve the working classes and communities of Pittsburgh, and IF a lot of other negative political and economic factors had not come into play, I agree that engineering wise, this could have been a great system. I appreciate the metro systems in Paris, London, New York and DC and it would be a terrific improvement in the quality of life to have a high speed system like that in Allegheny County. Currently Maglev is the pie in the sky dream. But the federal moneys available in the 70's will never come again - not with the crushing deficit Cheney/Rumsfeld have incurred and continue to incur. Turning to another of your points, i.e, Pittsburgh's poor economic state, there again many factors are responsible, just as in other rust belt communities. The loss of the steel industry was the worst, and I look back at a time when all interested parties - stockholders, management & labor unions lived high on the hog with their generous dividends, salaries, benefits. None of them exercised the delayed gratification concept to plow sufficient profits back into the infrastructure and modernize the mills. That had nothing to do with Flaherty or any other mayor.
And Flaherty had nothing to do with the fact that Westinghouse's NES (nuclear energy systems) division (in Monroeville) did not sell a single new plant anywhere in the world after what, 1970? Or the fact that Westinghouse shut down its R&D division in Churchill. A lot of the former W employees I know blame poor management decisions for W's demise. There was a detailed series of articles in the Post Gazette a few years ago spelling it all out.

I'm sure few DUers have any interest in our back and forth on the issue of Pete Flaherty. But as I said in my first post, I am a supporter of Shawn Flaherty in the upcoming fall race. We dems actually have a chance to take back control of the State House of Reps. for the first time in about 10 years, but it will be a hard fought battle. At a time when moderate Repubs. have been defeated in mid state primaries and will be replaced with extreme conservative repubs, it is critical that we take back the House if we are ever to get some property tax relief for our senior citizens, or any other humane legislation passed. Your belittling of his father's name is not helpful, will do no good, and may do some harm. You can't turn the clock back and change that which angered and upset you. I have never felt the need to attack dead Dems. If you must speak ill of the dead, post about Ronald Reagan or J. Edgar Hoover, or Richard Nixon.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:54 AM
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18. Give my regards to Arnold.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 08:57 AM
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19. Not only did I not vote for him
butI was circulating petitions to recall the a-hole.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:07 AM
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21. Good for you.
Still glad I don't live there.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:08 AM
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22. I'm IN PA., always have been. I'm rather proud of my BLUE STATE.
Thankyouverymuch.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:10 AM
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23. I left three months before a major "downsizing"
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:19 AM
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25. I am old enough to remember the "Greatest Years"
the 20 years after WW2 ended - when Pittsburgh was in the Top Ten cities, when Salk made his breakthroughs, when WQED started, the early days of "Mister Rogers Neighborhood"- I lived through that era. And it's gone.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:06 AM
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36. I remember Pittsburgh in the 50s too
Edited on Mon May-22-06 12:07 AM by Joe Bacon
WDTV (DuMont), Everyone listened to Rege Cordic on KDKA. I still get belly laughs when Rege arranged a whistle stop tour for his presidential candiadate "Carmine Minoxide" (Bob Trow). Then Rege pushed his "Old Frothingslosh"--the Pale Stale Ale with the foam on the bottom. Josie Carey did Children's Corner with Fred Rogers. Paul Shannon had his "Adventure Time" and I STILL remember when the 3 Stooges were live on his show. Then there was Hank Stohl and his puppet Knish (A rag mop head with a bowling pin nose. Kay on Channel 11 and WInky's hamburger stands ruled before Mc Donald's put them out of business...

And Isaly's chocolate marshmallow ice cream, chipped ham and barbecue sauce served with cole slaw and Wise or Snyders potato chips and Tom Tucker Mint Ginger Ale...
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Penndems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 11:21 AM
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44. But it's coming back . . .
"Council clears way for PNC tower work to begin":
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06130/688849-53.stm

"Pittsburgh city council signs on to Downtown Wi-Fi plan":
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06123/686937-53.stm

"City planners back Millcraft's plan to renovate former Lazarus-Macy's": http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06123/686932-53.stm

"$269 million Downtown redevelopment plan unveiled": http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06109/683171-53.stm

"PNC economist predicts expansion, more jobs": http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06060/662598-28.stm









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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:20 AM
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7. ...
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:31 AM
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8. I notice that, with all his faux outrage and accusations,
he never once said, "Of course I live there, from time to time," and then offer to take the interested parties on a one-time tour to prove his assertions and lay to rest any discussions to the contrary. I guess telling the truth and backing it up as simply not on any republican's agenda.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:14 AM
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27. He can't do that until he buys some furniture, curtains, and lets the kids
loose in the house for a couple days so it looks lived in.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 01:59 AM
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10. My my aren't we touchy?
Well, it doesn't take much does it?

Sanitarium is going to lose. The polls are already showing that. He's got about 6 months, enjoy it buddy.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:05 AM
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11. Casey responds to P-RICK (with apologies to George Clinton)
Edited on Sun May-21-06 02:10 AM by Joe Bacon
I got this e-mail from Casey:

Dear Joseph,

Just minutes ago, Rick Santorum launched an outrageous, false attack through a campaign email and press release. It's only been 3 days since the primary election and they've already turned this race just plain nasty and we need your help to fight back.


Here is the deal: Rick Santorum is trying to fabricate a story out of nothing to tear down Bob and is making false statements to try to bring Bob Casey into a dispute that has raged since before Casey was in the race.


Rick Santorum is not telling the truth. Period. And it represents the Rick Santorum/Karl Rove style of Swift Boat politics.


The assertions in Santorum's email are false. The people questioning Santorum's residency aren't "Casey campaign operatives" as Santorum says. They are Penn Hills residents acting independently because they are upset that Santorum stuck them with tens of thousands of dollars in cyber school bills.


The email also says that Santorum did not use "personal attacks" in his past campaigns. Is he forgetting that he won his first election by running a TV ad featuring a photo of his opponent's Virginia house and attacking him for moving to Virginia?


This maneuver reeks of desperation and just goes to show that Rick Santorum will say or do anything to put up a smokescreen in front of the fact that he simply doesn't live in Pennsylvania. And he refuses to admit that because, if he did, he would have to repay tens of thousands of dollars to the Penn Hills School District for his cyber school bill.


I just got off the phone with Bob and he said that he and Terese are outraged that Senator Santorum is bringing our families and the Casey campaign into a long-running dispute he has with Penn Hills residents about his residency status.


Plain and simple, these attacks don't belong in politics and we will not let it go unchecked. We knew it was coming, but we were hoping that Rick Santorum wouldn't go so low. It is up to all of us to spread the truth about what is really going on here.

Get the background on the situation in the following newspaper articles and help us spread the truth:
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Nov. 14
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Nov. 19

Fight back today.

*Tell your friends and family to help us spread the truth
*Call talk radio
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*Write a letter to the editor
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Grassroots PA - http://www.GrassrootsPA.com
PennPatriot - http://PennPatriot.blogspot.com
Don't let Rick Santorum get away with his lies.


Fight back,

Jay Reiff
Campaign Manager

I don't agree with casey on everything, but he's better than P-RICK.

P-RICK has to go!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:13 AM
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12. Santorum won his Senate seat by claiming that his opponent
wasn't living in PA, but in VA. Now he's doing the same. Can you say H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E?
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 06:52 AM
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15. He is one of the worst
He also repeatedly calls for tort reform despite the fact his wife won a very dubious lawsuit of her own which he joined.
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 05:23 PM
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35. For an amount significantly higher than the "tort reform" limit
Hypocrisy is Rick Santorum.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:39 AM
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40. wanna know how he justifies it?
call his office and you will hear his aides tell you how it is because the Senator loves his family so much that he insists that they be close to him so that he doesn't miss out on the time he can have with them...and when you argue that other senator's actually live in their state....pRicky's people don't care and will quickly shut you off.
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PerceptionManagement Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:10 AM
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16. See, this is why you don't call a republican when they lie.
They don't like it. They lash out. They pout.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 07:12 AM
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17. And he not only affects Pennsy--his vote affects all Senate legislation.
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GoldenOldie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 09:12 AM
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24. I would think that all Santorium's opponent would have to do is
show a pic of his Penn 2-bedroom cottage, in the area of his "consituents," along side his actual Virginia mansion where he and his family actually reside. It doesn't take a genius to get the whole picture.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 10:56 AM
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26. Like many Beltway politicians, Santorum is a phony resident of his state
I wish they would all drop the pretense and just have postal office mailbox number as their home address. Setting aside the Santorum-Casey contest, which Casey must win, we must ask ourselves if it serves the public interest to have a permanent professional political class in Washington, DC, that only comes home during election time, or when Congress is not in session. Do we really need a year-round Congress?
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 03:11 PM
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33. no we don't need a year-round Congress but we have one. I found this tell
ing:


snip: Santorum's wife filed a complaint Tuesday with the U.S. Capitol police, who asked the Penn Hills police to check on the Santorums' house.

Smar said that raised the question of "whether this is an attempt to misuse the police to create a political story."

On Thursday, the Penn Hills public-safety director said on KDKA-TV in Pittsburgh that police would monitor the area "after they finish regular duties." :eyes:

Mrs. Sanitorium is complaining to Capitol police about her home in Penn Hills? Can't she just call the Penn Hill cops herself and leave Capitol police out of it? What a family of clowns!

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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 11:20 AM
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28. when i lived in the projects
it was a usual occurance that people came up to our window and 'peeked' in. it happened all the damn time... now i realize that all i had to do was call the police and they would send their guys over 'after they finished their regular duties' and perform some extra patrols by my apartment...... YEAH RIGHT!!!!!

he is a big liar that gets special treatment and acts like a little baby!!!!!

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-21-06 02:35 PM
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32. Better to be a thug than a horse fucker.
Santorum is human garbage, I hope he loses his house and his seat! Fucking crook.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 12:11 AM
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37. Surely Ricky don't mind if we peek in his windows looking for terrorists?
I mean, come on, what if terrorists were using his house whilst he was in Virginia? That wouldn't be good, would it? What if a terrorist had an atomic bomb in Ricky's house? Wouldn't he want us to peek in the windows then? What's the big deal? Is Ricky trying to hide something?
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 06:34 AM
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38. And so it begins....the battle everyone has been waiting for...
Rick is a cornered dog. His polls are down and he has nothing to lose.

Let us see how the DLC annointed Casey holds up under the pressure because getting called a thug is going to be the least of Casey's worries as this rock throwing race begins.

...as for Ricky's house...unless they went back and put the curtains on...the news crews in our area filmed it and there are curtains...or at least from the angles they were filming.

This is more of an issue with the Democrats in Penn Hills who feel that the senator doesn't live there and doesn't have a right to vote there and they are justified in their suspicions of pRicky.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:46 PM
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48. Damn, he's cheap
On top of everything else, this guy is cheap as dirt.

For, what, 50 bucks he could buy some curtains at K-mart and hang them up in his windows.

For 75 a month, he could hire somebody to mow his lawn and take care of the yard every week. Even less for every 2 weeks, which should keep the place looking lived in.

Couldn't he spare some of the money he ripped off from the school system to spring for some chintzy curtains and a yard service to at least put up the appearance of occupancy in his stupid Potemkin house?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:07 AM
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42. How does Santorum know anyone trespassed on his property?
It's not like he lives there or anything. And to say that someone "must have" trespassed is hardly grounds for a prosecution, as Mr. Santorum should well know. Don't bear false witness, Mr. Santorum; that's against one of the Big Ten you and your ilk are so fond of spouting every chance you get. Or don't they apply to you?
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-22-06 10:15 AM
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43. And hate radio repeats this, verbatim
Sadly, our Phils are carried by Philly's worst Hate Radio station.

I got in the car, and the station was still on, and I had to hear someone repeating this accusation (verbatim, right from the Rove Talking Point Memo of the Morning, of course) before I was able to lunge for the radio and change the station. Sick f#$kers.

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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:31 PM
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47. What kind of wimp hides behind his children?
Rick Santorum is neither man, nor woman, but a jellyfish.
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-01-06 08:53 PM
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49. All the Rethugs hide behind the little children
until it's time for their spawn to enter collage and unleash them on an unsuspecting public (Young Republicans)
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