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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 02:26 AM
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Iraqi seized at wedding, later found beheaded
An Iraqi groom celebrating on the dance floor was dragged off and later found beheaded in a field after armed men showed up at his wedding.

Gunmen took away merchant Khudair al-Tamimi, 26, along with his father, uncle, cousin and a guest at the party Thursday in Muqdadiya, 50 miles northeast of Baghdad.

Their bodies were discovered Friday, beheaded and dumped in farmlands just north of the town, police said.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003022279_iraqdig27.html
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 03:21 AM
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1. Good Grief !...I guess the barbarians HAVE taken over
killing tennis players, grooms, random people on the street..

That deomcracy thing has not helped the ordinary people much , has it :cry:

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 08:34 AM
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2. So, is this one of the 'good' things happening in Iraq? Is this the
Edited on Sat May-27-06 08:35 AM by acmavm
progress I keep hearing about from the bush** admin and right wing nut cases?

edit: Just to put it in perspective, what would the terrible twins have to deal with in a society like that considering their past behavior and reputations.
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SeaBob Donating Member (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 09:12 AM
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3. SoCAL Dem
Great Logo on the bottom of your posts
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:24 PM
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4. Thanks.. I like to make people smile little
There's damned little worth smiling about these days.. Welcome to DU :hi:
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B3Nut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 02:29 PM
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9. I said, back when this all started,
that they would never succeed in bringing democracy to Iraq. Correct me if I'm wrong, but at no point in history has democracy ever been brought to any people by any external force, but must have necessarily originated in the minds and hearts of the populace wishing to govern themselves. Democracy cannot take root and flourish in a country dominated by religious fundamentalism of any stripe. Other countries can come to the aid of a people striving for self-government (as France did in our formative revolutionary years) but the prime motivation has to come from the people themselves.

It looks like my original thesis has proven correct. I sorely wish they could have proven me wrong on this, I really do. A couple, on what should be a happy occasion, ripped apart by the most vile of human stupidity. A family destroyed. That's what I call progress. Not. :(

Todd in Beerbratistan

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:38 PM
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5. This is going to continue to get worse....
I am just betting...that this administration has not planned far enough ahead to the point if whole cities of one religous group or another must be moved...where will they be moved...

Honestly at this point they shoud get the tree tribes together and each of them to their respective lands and call it a day...somehow divide up the oil riches among the three newly recreated countries.....This will be a Darfur...no doubt about it..
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 01:50 PM
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6. This is fucking sad and
I know it's bush's doing but what are these people trying to prove?
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niallmac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:25 AM
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15. The article lectures at its conclusion: 'insurgency' and 'sectarian
violence' are to blame.
The article really does not explain what exactly was behind the beheading in this case and I suspect the story has
legs only because of its ghastliness. An explanation as to whether this was sunni vs shiite for example would
go miles for me in helping me understand.

You are correct IMO to ask what are these people trying to prove as I
do not see that we get much insight from articles like this.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 02:15 PM
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7. Somehow the fact that the Iraqis voted
makes this a democracy. What bullshit. What comes after he voting is even more important.

We may not like the outcome of our elections but we are nor assassinating members of congress or random Republicans just because we didn't get everytning we wanted.

Voting is not a proof of democracy. The Iraqis voted 99% for Saddam.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 02:19 PM
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8. I guess the good news is they were abducted at a wedding, not at a funeral
See...measurable progress in Iraq. No longer are people being killed during depressing activities! They at least get to be happy before their heads are lopped off. :(-

J
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 02:35 PM
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10. That has got to be hard for the bride
I really can't imagine the grief, rage, despair, and fear the Iraqis must feel.

Damn. It becomes more apparent ever day that they were better off with Saddam Hussein in charge. With the help of hundreds of billions in tax dollars and bonds and the wasted lives of thousands, bush has managed to turn a struggling third world country into an anarchistic shithole. The word "legacy" comes to mind.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:16 PM
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11. This is because of us...
Because we failed to stop the 2000 coup, because we failed to stop him from invading that country and murdering innocent people. I feel so ashamed...:cry:
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-27-06 10:39 PM
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12. Yes, partly, but more because of bush and his war-profiteer buddies
Sure, we failed to stop their crimes, because they succeeded. We expected politics as usual, but they threw out the rulebook when they seized power. Really, how could we have stopped the invasion once bush and his cronies had the power? That seems like blaming the kids in the backseat for daddy's reckless driving. What were we supposed to do? Stop paying taxes, give up our jobs and homes for a life of direct action? I was especially outraged at the politicians in the Democratic party who supported the invasion, but upon reflection I can't blame them for being lied to at every turn; what irks me more is the sense that many who crossed the aisle to prop bush were acting purely from the viewpoint of political expedience, when they knew damn well that the invasion was rooted in falsehoods. To what extent is it our fault for being lied to, and preferring a passive embrace of the status quo to one of civil disobedience?

These aren't rhetorical questions, and I honestly don't know the answers. The more pressing matter at hand is how to hold the criminals responsible, how to make them accountable someday, so no one ever gets the idea to pull shit like that again. I don't even know if it's possible; some part of me just has this hunch that the only reason they're so brazen about it now is they know the fix is in, for 2006 and 2008, and maybe the next 20 years.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 12:50 AM
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13. Of course we did all we could...
just as there were German citizens who spoke out against Hitler, sometimes working covertly against the nazis.

Sorry to sound so despondent. I just can't help feeling guilty while I sit here relatively secure that my husband and children won't be kidnapped and murdered for the love of oil. And knowing that Dumbyass probably won't even hear of this man's death except as a meaningless statistic ("After all, it's just one more civilian casualty of insurgent activity...") makes me even more ashamed of him and his filthy stinking murderous cronies.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 03:03 AM
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14. So now can we officially say ...
That civil war has broken out?
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