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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:38 PM
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'US is an expert in killing'

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/Iraq/0,,2-10-1460_1940981,00.html

'US is an expert in killing'

Baghdad - Word that United States marines may have killed two dozen Iraqi civilians in "cold-blooded" revenge after an insurgent attack has shocked Americans but many Iraqis shrug it off as a fact of life.

Despite US military denials, many Iraqis believe the killing of civilians at the hands of careless or angry American soldiers is common.

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In the Sunni city of Ramadi, lawyer Abd Mohammed Falah said: "The US forces have committed more crimes against the Iraqi people than appears in the media. The US defence secretary and his generals should be sent to court."

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Hamdi Hassan, editor of the Adala newspaper, said civilians were often killed by US troops: "The insurgents attack the Americans and then they hide among the civilians. Then the Americans just open fire everywhere."

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evermind Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:44 PM
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1. Well, it seems to me we've seen a pattern that can be described
as "reprisal killings" for quite some time, now.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 08:54 PM
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 09:01 PM
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3. They RWers just don't understand
This is a culture that doesn't get mad, it gets even - or dies trying. Revenge is a way of life even if it takes a few generations.

And the situation isn't helped by undeducated, trigger happy and stressed-out 19 and 20-year old kids patrolling the streets with deadly weapons and a hatred for the locals.

This is no repeat of Germany in the 1940's. This is a totally foreign culture that will never be transformed into an eastern version of America.

There will be no Iraqi Disneyland, ever.
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:15 AM
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4. Who did you think came up with the latest torture techniques?
Duh!
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mortlefaucheur Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:41 AM
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5. Well, yeah...
;-)
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mortlefaucheur Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 12:57 AM
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6. also wondering what is the disposition...
of the case, should it involve serious and blatant infractions vs. the UCMJ.
No wonder Bush* wants to fill his bookmarks with the illustrated hallmarks of an amateur Third Reich; a template for his sober betters send to the vigilant...
Fuck Your Fraud. Kraut-Fake-Fraud-MurKKKans!
A Free people rejects fascism, by default.
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Hosnon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 09:58 AM
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7. I don't think it is intrinsically bad to be good at killing...depends on
whom you are killing.

This is going to explode on us though.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:10 AM
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8. It's all Smirk has ever been good at
He blew up frogs as a kid, was popular in TExas because he executed people at a record pace, and his only "success" since 01/2001 has been the slaughter of Iraqis. A country takes on the personality of its leadership.
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Terran1212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 11:18 AM
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9. It's always been this way; media/gov't tries to sanitize US actions abroad
But we don't get so hated around the world for taking over countries by throwing flowers at them.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-29-06 02:30 PM
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10. Sounds like Vietnam
"The insurgents attack the Americans and then they hide among the civilians. Then the Americans just open fire everywhere."

So basically it is impossible to tell who is an insurgent and who is an innocent civilian, once blended together in a crowd. This has massacre written all over it.
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