Pedophiles to launch political party

[seriousstan]

AMSTERDAM (Reuters) - Dutch pedophiles are launching a political party to push for a cut in the legal age for sexual relations to 12 from 16 and the legalization of child pornography and sex with animals, sparking widespread outrage.

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The party wants private possession of child pornography to be allowed although it supports the ban on the trade of such materials. It also supports allowing pornography to be broadcast on daytime television, with only violent pornography limited to the late evening.

Toddlers should be given sex education and youths aged 16 and up should be allowed to appear in pornographic films and prostitute themselves. Sex with animals should be allowed although abuse of animals should remain illegal, the NVD said.


The party also said everybody should be allowed to go naked in public and promotes legalizing all soft and hard drugs and free train travel for all.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2006-05-30T170341Z_01_L30338107_RTRUKOC_0_US-DUTCH-PEDOPHILES.xml&pageNumber=1&imageid=&cap=&sz=13&WTModLoc=NewsArt-C1-ArticlePage1

[iconoclastic cat]

1. In other news, Rick Santorum was seen buying luggage today...nt

[villager]

2. Exactly. The Republican party already exists

Why "reinvent" such an odious "wheel?"

[roguevalley]

14. bwahahahaha! I'm sorry, I-cat, but that was funny.

[Tempest]

17. It's not really funny when you consider this

www.armchairsubversive.com

[arikara]

52. Yikes! And that's only the ones that were caught

I bet that's only 1 percent.

[Tempest]

53. The list is way out of date

I've submitted at least a dozen more Repug pedophiles that the web site owner hasn't posted yet.

[NorthernSpy]

3. is this someone's idea of a joke?

:think:

[medeak]

7. sounds more like The Onion n/t

[unhappycamper]

4. I like the free train travel.

I'd pass on the rest of the platform.......

[progdonkey]

12. yeah, where the hell does that come from?

"We want to rape children, rape animals, teach sex ed to newborns, be able to own and produce (but not trade!) child pornography... oh, and we don't want to pay for train tickets: E20 for a short ride is just wrong!"

:silly:

[Terran1212]

39. My reaction exactly

Maybe the train travel is attractive to people who aren't just sex maniacs?

[MelliMel]

5. That's disgusting.

Pedophiles are the lowest of the low. The "right" to have sex with a 12 year old? Come near my kids, and you will find out how quickly my normally calm self exercises her mamabear-ness.

[noonwitch]

6. What would a party like that call themselves?

United Baby and Animal Fuckers? Sick, sick, sick, sick.

It can be hoped that there is at least one pyro among them who will burn down their first convention. I think that the odds of that would actually be pretty good.

[Tempest]

18. If they were in America, they would call themselves Republicans

Check this out:

www.armchairsubversive.com

[mrbassman03]

29. Charity, Freedom and Diversity (NVD) Party...

Well, they technically are about freedoms... The charity and the diversity parts I am a bit confused with, but I haven't studied pedophile parties in too much detail.

[noonwitch]

57. They are for their own freedom, not freedom for their victims

How free of a choice does a 12 year old have when an adult is trying to have sex with her?

If they try to come to here and start a party-I guess we should let the militias handle that.

[genieroze]

8. I only agree with.

legalizing all soft drugs and free train travel for all.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

9. Somehow...

I find these to be pretty much political non-starters. Except for the free train travel.

Of course, Ms. Coulter will be chiming in on this any moment now...

[VegasWolf]

10. Is it proper to call a guy dressed in drag "Ms" Coulter? nt

[mrbassman03]

11. Sweet! (not for those reasons)

I am writing a paper for a 400-level comparative politics course describing the evolving Dutch political state. This helps a ton! Always good to get some relevant info in there.

[enigma000]

16. So what are your conclusions, If I may ask? n/t

[mrbassman03]

28. Well, it's still in progress, but...

I give evidence to support Arend Lijphart's conclusion that the Netherlands, along with Austria, is an example of a consociational democracy, in which there are deeply divided segments of society. The elites of each of those "pillars" decide to work together at the upper level to establish peace, instead of broad fighting across the country. The decline of consociationalism after the 1970s allows for the introduction of smaller fringe parties, such as the FPÖ in Austria and the LPF in the Netherlands. I am looking at why we see the rise of these populist, extreme-right parties in the last decade. That is the VERY basic premise behind it, as it goes on and on, but I thought this article would give it some very current news.

[enigma000]

32. That's an interesting observation

Consensus politics is popular in Europe, I'm told. It may also account for the transferring of power to the trans-national level - notably the EU - away from the whims of the people.

As a thought, could it be the main stream parties no longer have solutions for (or even consider) the issues? And this is driving people towards the fringes on the left and right. I wonder what it would have been like if the Cold War kept going & the far Left wasn't discredited.....

[johnfunk]

13. In other news, televangelists react to Dutch Pedophile Party platform

[TankLV]

43. I wonder if Jimmy Swaggert is just gonna watch, or will he particfipate

time around.

[roguevalley]

15. well, at last. the first symptoms of legalized drugs emerge in the

country. :)

[wiley]

20. Are you saying pedophilia is tied to legalization of drugs?

So all those religious people, priests, I think - I can't remember what religion they were - who molested young boys and girls over a span of decades were on drugs?

[roguevalley]

38. No. It was a joke. Humor. Ha ha. Sheesh.

[Judi Lynn]

19. Too bad Philip Giordano, Republican Mayor of Waterbury, Conn.'s in prison

He would have been a charter member, accomplishing the great perverted record of having bagged two female children in the Mayor's office, on the floor.

[Posteritatis]

21. "...and free train travel for all?"

o/` One of these things is not like the others... o/`

[Seabiscuit]

22. American pedophiles already have their own party - Republican.

[wakeme2008]

24. But they are not as nice

no free train travel or drugs :rofl:

[Efilroft Sul]

23. At long last, it's okay for a candidate to be caught with a live boy!

That was sarcasm, I hope you know.

[wakeme2008]

25. As long as he is on a train

:)

[xchrom]

26. you can not be serious.

[JohnKleeb]

27. Damn that is fucked up

Reading that made me dare I say conservative. I think I disagree with just about every part of their platform except the free train part and I suspect that may be an ulterior motive.

[AngryOldDem]

30. I was gonna say....

...the train business seems OK with me.

The rest...well...

[JohnKleeb]

34. Yeah free train travel sounds nice but

Their other issues are so fucked up. 12 years olds should not be having sex with adults. Pedophila is I think in a way worse than murder because it affects the victim for the rest of their life and I don't think high school kids should be in porn movies. Their drug views terrify me honestly too since I have lost family due to abuse of hard drugs.

[Imajika]

31. And were surprised so many Muslims..

..are disgusted with the moral decay they see in their adopted homes.

Pedophiles are filth.

[jerry611]

37. Oh OK. So muslims don't have pedophilia in their faith?

Dude, you need to do a bunch of research... You are clueless.

Did you know it is LEGAL in Iran to marry a 9 year old with parental permission? Did you know most muslim countries set their age of consent at the "time of marriage." This means it can be 9 years old or 30 years old. Whenever marriage occurs, sexual contact of any kind if considered legal.

That's the way their culture has been for 1500+ years. It is said that Mohammad had a wife at age 6 when he himself was 53.

[Imajika]

42. Good call..

Your right, I made that comment sortof out of anger at pedophiles. The post was silly and your right to call me on it.

Not much more I can say.

I was trying to make the point that Muslims tend to be more religious, and maybe it isn't surprising that some of them see this kind of thing and perceive decadent rot in their adopted homelands...

However, using this as an example was incorrect. In hindsight, my post was pretty stupid and I'm glad there are people around to keep me on my toes.

Cheers!

[TankLV]

44. Yeah - beheadings and 'fatwas" and Jihads are SOOO properly

religious.

"...that Muslims tend to be more religious..."

Can I have some of what you are smoking/drinking/popping?!

[Imajika]

46. Not sure what your point is..

I agreed that my first post in this thread was a bad one.

As far as Islam goes. I suspect that the majority of muslims are indeed "moderate", but Islam is not a moderate religion.

[Emendator]

47. Well said

"I suspect that the majority of muslims are indeed "moderate", but Islam is not a moderate religion."

Exactly right. Thank God that most Muslims are better than their religion. The ideas of Islam need to be criticized. The people have been brainwashed by lies.

[pnwmom]

33. It's not a joke. And it gets worse.

According to the first page of the Reuters link,

"The party said it wanted to cut the legal age for sexual relations to 12 and eventually scrap the limit altogether.

"A ban just makes children curious," Ad van den Berg, one of the party's founders, told the Algemeen Dagblad (AD) newspaper.

"We want to make pedophilia the subject of discussion," he said, adding the subject had been a taboo since the 1996 Marc Dutroux child abuse scandal in neighboring Belgium.

"We want to get into parliament so we have a voice. Other politicians only talk about us in a negative sense, as if we were criminals," Van den Berg told Reuters."

[CoffeeCat]

58. Pedophiles love the word "curious."

I noticed that uber-sick pedophile Ad van den Berg "one of the party founders" said that "A ban just makes children curious."

Child molesters can't take responsibility for their own sexual, criminal actions. They need to blame the child. So, one of their tactics is to convince themselves that children are just oh-so "curious" about sex. Perps believe that eight-year old children want to sexually explore with middle-aged men--and that they are so unbelievably "curious." Convincing themselves that children are "sexually curious" is literally a universal rationalization that pedophiles use to make their sick actions ok in their own mind. My therapist, who treats perps--said that he almost always hears the word "curious" from perps--as they describe how the children were really the ones at fault.

So, it's interesting and downright revolting to see a perp using that word--once again.

***triggering*** ***graphic, please don't read if you get easily triggered***

My therapist has told me that it is typical for a perp to say, "Well...I know she's only five, but she was up on my lap, squirming around and giggling and I just assumed that she wanted something to happen. When I exposed myself to her, she seemed so curious and she wanted to know what that was. So I thought it was ok."

I know that is really sick, but there are SO MANY of these wolves out there! Their thought process and actions need to be exposed! One in four girls and one in seven boys is sexually abused...and usually the perp is an immediate family member. This stuff is happening EVERY NIGHT in EVERY CITY in America. It's disgusting, but these rationalizations and thought processes are common with perps.

Like my therapist said, a perpetrator will focus on the victim--projecting " sexual curiosity" and precociousness on a grammar-school child. In an effort to avoid personal responsibility, the perp twists reality into a perverted mess--where the child was "curious" and just wanted sex. The perp does not question why his sex organs are exposed in front of a child--or what he is doing thinking sexually about a child. To the perp--it's all about blaming the child and inventing realities that enable them to avoid accountability.

These bastards need a boat-load of denial to function. If they were like most of society, they would be shamed, repulsed and sickened by themselves. The denial serves to protect their own egos, and allows them to be fully functioning society members.

Young children do NOT understand the ramifications of sexual touching or sexual contact--the way an adult does. Children lack the cognitive ability to understand the full implications of sex. Most of these kids still believe in the tooth fairy! However, the adult understands very well the complexities of adult sexual behavior.

It's just sick what these people do!

[zbdent]

35. Why do I suspect that there will be a rush of freepturds applying

for dual citizenship . . . maybe so they can legally eff their kids?

[DavidMS]

36. Unlikely...

but they (Freeper Trash) will certanly be sending their kids there on "working vacations!"

I though I have seen everything...

[leesa]

40. Will they call themselves the GOP?

[TankLV]

41. Okayyyyy...

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[Endangered Specie]

45. These people really should just be dragged out into the street and shot.

I can only imagine what I would do if I had a pre-teen daughter and one of these creeps showed up.....

[jerry611]

49. And this will solve?

There are 400,000 registered sex offenders in the United States alone. And that is just the ones that have been caught and have acted on impulses. The number that havn't been caught are probably a few million.

[wiley]

50. Usually the creeps live with the kids

The overwhleming majority of children are sexually molested by one (or both) of their parents, a sibling or a relative. Criminalizing 'Gay Marriage" will certainly solve the problem, though. The divorce rate will probably be eliminated as well. This will divert attention from the fact that there are a lot of seriously sexually messed up people maquerading as normal. Gays will continue to be blamed for the problem, and it will never be addressed.

[CoffeeCat]

48. I am glad that these pedophiles are going public...

...and airing their sick, evil, deranged wishes--for all the world to see.

These reptilian, myopic, selfish sociopaths and their views need to be part of public discourse. Usually pedophilia is extremely hidden. The perps are masterful at hiding their crimes as they terrorize and manipulate their victims into silence.

One of the hallmark statistics of sexual abuse, is that 90 percent of children never tell anyone about the abuse. Abusers shame, threaten and manipulate their victims into believing the abuse was their idea, or their fault. It's easy to convince a child--most of whom believe in Santa Claus--that they wanted the abuse to happen and did nothing to stop it--therefore it is their fault and no one will believe them if they tell.

I've met hundreds of sexual-abuse survivors and the silencing techniques are ruthless and they traumatize the victim--just as much as the molestation. Furthermore, I've NEVER met a survivor who, after confronting their perp, got an acknowledgment of the abuse--much less an apology. These bastards--the majority of whom are their fathers or stepfathers--deny that it ever happened to their face.

My therapist works with pedophiles. He has told me that it usually takes a year of intense, in-patient therapy for a pedophile to admit any wrong-doing. Even if the pedophile is convicted and there is photographic evidence and multiple victims--it takes many months before they acknowledge that any sexual abuse took place.

So, I'm quite surprised...that a group of these pedophiles is willing to be so public about their evil.

Since child molestation is an epidemic in this country--and an issue that our society doesn't want to face--I hope that this story gets widespread publicity. I hope that the pedophiles in this country will be listening in---to hear how vile, sickening, evil and debased society deems their actions. Maybe, just maybe--an open discussion will help to crack that wall of denial that these coward perps hide behind.

[wiley]

51. Agreed. But not if they are allowed to hide behind marriage and family

values. It's not just the Catholic Church,either. I counsel hundreds of male rape and incest survivors who still want nothing more than to please their fathers and be good boys. They never trust anyone again, and have extremely hard times establishing relationships with women or even male friends.

[CoffeeCat]

56. I'm with you 100 percent...

Thank you for the work you are doing with survivors. Recovering from incest is a slow, brutal, scary process, and it takes so much patience and compassion to help survivors. You're truly making the world a better place. Thank you.

Like you, I'm familiar with the ravages of incest and sexual abuse. Like you mentioned, many perps hide behind marriage and family values. Most of the survivors that I have met were from "normal" families. They appeared normal, anyway. I can't tell you how many times, I've sat in a survivor group, listening to everyone go around the room and tell their background, "I come from a middle class family....my father is a doctor...my father is a pastor...my family is upper-middle class...my parents are teachers....etc."

It amazes me how many of them are from families that society would deem normal--or even model families. Most would be very shocked to know what was really going on. I feel that I've seen the underbelly of humanity, in these groups. It's very troubling.

My family looked and appeared fully functional. I hail from an upper-middle class, church-going family. My father was a business owner and well liked. When I confronted my father, I was ostracized and not believed. My father went so far as to consult a priest about his, "rebellious daughter who was making things up and trying to destroy my life." He convinced the priest that he was innocent and the priest told my father that it was best to "let someone like her, go."

Talk about irony.

That's how callous, cowardly and self serving these perps are. I guess I long for my father to understand the damage he's done and that his actions were heinous--which is probably why I'm glad these groups expose themselves and are publicly ridiculed. It hurts that I've spent thousands on four years of therapy--and he gets to skate along--oblivious to reality.

I hope my father--and all of the other middle-class perps out there--who hide behind the facade of "family values" and normalcy--hear the outrage for this Dutch pedophile group. I hope they recognize that they are monsters, just like the Dutch political group.

Again, thanks for the healing work that you do. You truly are a gift, and I can't say enough about the importance of your work. I'm sure you all ready realize those things, as you see the healing happen in your clients.

:)

[Boomer]

60. Loving the abuser

Same dynamic for a woman friend of mine who was molested by her father as a young girl (8-9 years old).

She adored her father, even though the abuse he inflicted on her was painful and emotionally traumatizing. She rationalized his actions by blaming her own mother for being a poor wife. Her father was just "lonely" and in need of love.

Because of the abuse she was never able to form a stable relationship with any man. She had a number of furtive affairs with much older married men, but basically considered herself to be "asexual" and uninterested in sex. This was just her nature, of course, and wasn't the result of the sexual abuse.

Just as she never seemed to find any significance in the fact that her father ran a kiddie park for many years.

Where do you even begin to repair this kind of damage, especially when the abused refuse to recognize the crime?

[goforit]

54. SICK to the Max!!!

[Kablooie]

55. Now THIS is an issue the Republicans should support!

Popularity plus there.

[alfredo]

59. I've known two chicken freaks in my life, both were

Republicans. That doesn't mean there aren't Dems with that sickness, but I haven't met any .

[Roon]

61. I think I am going to be sick

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