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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:52 PM
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Moscow says banned gays because "cleaner" than West
http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-05-30T175830Z_01_L30284784_RTRUKOC_0_US-RUSSIA-GAYS.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

Moscow says banned gays because "cleaner" than West

Tue May 30, 2006 1:58 PM ET

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Moscow's influential mayor said on Tuesday the city banned gay activists from holding a parade because it is morally cleaner than the West, which is caught up in "mad licentiousness".

The gay activists tried to hold their protest against homophobia and discrimination at the weekend despite the ban, but were detained by police, abused by militant Christians and attacked by neo-fascists.

They had wanted to lay flowers at the grave of the unknown warrior, a monument to those who died defeating Nazi Germany, but police blocked their path.

Mayor Yuri Luzhkov said such an action would have been a desecration of the sacred monument, and rejected Western criticism of his ban as prejudiced and homophobic.

"Our way of life, our morals and our tradition -- our morals are cleaner in all ways. The West has something to learn from us and should not race along in this mad licentiousness," he told Moscow radio, according to local news agencies.

(snip)

"These gays go there, and openly go up to the monument. It is a contamination. People burst through and of course they beat them up," he said.

(snip)

link: http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-05-30T175830Z_01_L30284784_RTRUKOC_0_US-RUSSIA-GAYS.xml&src=rss&rpc=22
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 01:59 PM
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1. The Gay's are being persecuted in many ways the Jew's have been.
The Death camps are not here yet, but give these Religious and Homophobic freaks the chance and it will happen.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:00 AM
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16. The homosexuals went before the Jews in Hitler's Germany.
But handicapped persons, political disitents, university leaders and general, out spoken, liberals went with homosexuals. Just thought you should know.
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:38 AM
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20. Indeed, but I think the point is that the Jews were the prime target of
the Final Solution. They had been identified as the single most important threat to the welfare of the true German people and were scheduled for extinction. We have yet to see something of this magnitude happen to homosexuals, as they were pretty much thrown into the lot whenever encountered. I just hope it'll never come to that. One can always hope.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:32 PM
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2. Russia grows more frightening by the day... n/t
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 02:55 PM
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3. Sure. Nothing more moral than a neo-nazi skinhead
"Riot police detained several dozen neo-fascist skinheads who wanted to break up the protest"
What the fuck is wrong with people?
At least he's on the hall of shame.
http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2006/05/17/global13393.htm
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:11 PM
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4. Meanwhile, rate of HIV infection is high, and skyrocketing out of control
Edited on Tue May-30-06 03:11 PM by closeupready
The countries of the former Soviet Union are facing a spiralling HIV/AIDS epidemic but lag far behind in efforts to fight the disease, a new UN report has warned.

HIV virus infections, which precedes full-blown AIDS, increased twenty-fold across the region in less than a decade, said the specialised agency UNAIDS.

Around 1.5 million people were living with HIV by the end of last year, and AIDS claimed the lives of an estimated 53,000 people in the region in 2005 -- almost twice as many as in 2003 -- said the Geneva-based agency in its biennial study of the global epidemic.

http://www.todayonline.com/articles/121432.asp
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:38 PM
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5. Deacadent Amerikans
Let's just have a world full of dictators. Throw them all in a wrestling ring and the winner gets to be king of the world.
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:38 PM
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6. Hitler was anti-gay . . .
. . . after he didn't need the Brown Shirts any longer. He sent a lot of them to concentration camps.

Does that make him moral?
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afrosia Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:37 AM
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19. Re: Hitler was anti-gay . . .
According to Mr. Luzhkov it does!
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Yollam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 08:32 AM
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21. And may I infer that you agree with him?
nt
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 03:58 PM
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7. "and of course they beat them up..."
Oh duh. What's wrong with liberal Americans? Us and our not beating up homosexuals...
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:11 PM
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8. The mayor of a major city.
...Moscow's influential mayor said on Tuesday the city banned gay activists from holding a parade because it is morally cleaner than the West, which is caught up in "mad licentiousness"...

The world is not making progress.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:35 PM
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9. If Rove ever IS indicted, we know where Bush will go for his new brain
Slap yourself, Yuri, you useless shitbox.
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 04:37 PM
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10. Funny I thought the International talked about freeing ALL humans....
Edited on Tue May-30-06 04:37 PM by Endangered Specie
:sarcasm:
Governments chhange, the bullshit stays the same.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 05:20 PM
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11. I thought Moscow used to identify WITH the West.
Why the change? Or am I wrong?
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kiraboo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 09:43 PM
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12. I won't be visiting Moscow unless it's to march in a gay pride
parade.

I truly hate that kind of shit and we wade through enough over here in the U.S. What the heck is wrong with people?
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-30-06 10:37 PM
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13. Whats wrong with people is that...
They are educational challenged and are scared of things they dont understand. Its clearly obvious with the religious fanatics here who think the same way, they dont understand the Gay community and therefore revoke to any means necassary to try and surpress it.

Whats is inevitable is that all the shit these relgious neo-cons try and supress will blow-up in there face with force. Again, I will state what I feel is correct, that RELIGION is a plague among society, sometihng that has been taken so far as to be taken literally and word for word. These people who read those books forget that MEN wrote them and MEN translated them. The first being a Greek, it should be noted that things get misinterperted, mistranslated or simply lost in translation.

Queen Elizabeth was a hardcore bible thumping religious dictator, if you didnt comform to her perspective or rule of the bible you were killed. The same formula was practiced through the Dark Ages by Popes and the Church in general, murder is OK because they were doing it in God's name against whom they saw or thought was a heathen/blasphemer/Witch or Sorcerer. So, anyone that was in anyway DIFFERENT was murdered/Tortured...

These ideas and ways of thinking CAN NOT be allowed to flourish and run rampant, no matter the cost it must be over come and tramppled under foot. If anything needs supressed, its these redicules ideas about homosexuality and other minorities.

Accceptance and Tolerance is the right way and the only way, not ignorance and moronism...
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:04 AM
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17. That's not true about Elizabeth I
She was very religious tolerant for her time and her station. Her sister Mary? Yes. Elizabeth? No. Her father? Yes. Her cousin Jane Grey? Would have been yes, imo. Her brother Edward? Yes.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 05:21 AM
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14. They have a seat on the Human Rights Council n/t
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 05:33 AM
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15. Russia is deeply homophobic and antisemitic
IF you have a look around the articles on the english version of www.pravda.ru,
you'll find some that blame russia's condition on the "jews". It is the worst omen
that putin is going mugabe, and a wormsign of new insability in russia, and the need
for regime change. ;-)
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afrosia Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-31-06 06:31 AM
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18. Moscow says banned gays because "cleaner" than West
Edited on Wed May-31-06 06:34 AM by afrosia
:sarcasm:
Well I don't know how anyone can argue with this statement really.

What happened to Russia? They were once in the running to become one of the most powerful nations on Earth. Now their country is riddled with poverty, AIDS and drug addiction.

Ask yourself this Mr. Luzhkov: Are your streets cleaner than the West? Are your citizens' veins cleaner than the West? Are your males' testicles cleaner than those in the West? I suspect not, douchebag.
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