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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:25 AM
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Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Survive WMD Attack
Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.

Franks, who successfully led the U.S. military operation to liberate Iraq, expressed his worries in an extensive interview he gave to the men’s lifestyle magazine Cigar Aficionado.

In the magazine’s December edition, the former commander of the military’s Central Command warned that if terrorists succeeded in using a weapon of mass destruction (WMD) against the U.S. or one of our allies, it would likely have catastrophic consequences for our cherished republican form of government.

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If that happens, Franks said, “... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we’ve seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.”

Franks then offered “in a practical sense” what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack.

“It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world – it may be in the United States of America – that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.”

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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/11/20/185048.shtml
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:27 AM
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1. Is this a Warning of things to come
Just before the 2004 election?

Chaos Inc-
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:14 AM
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16. Global terror is nothing more than a "trojan horse" for
global union and control of the populous.

America would never agree to this unless it were reduced to the level of others.

Look at our social safety nets...the delcining market..medicare on the brink...our falling dollar

This was all planned and the people willing to pull it off are in place
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:25 AM
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20. Bingo!...........* is going to attempt to attack the US again!!!
The murderer's warning in plain view!!!

Here comes another Mihop!!!!

Hold on to your hats DUrs!!!
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:28 AM
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2. Ok,
Now this is getting f*cking scary.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:29 AM
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4. I was shocked as well..
caught this on another message board...

Even if it is NewsMax...

It's still quoted by Franks- yes?
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:29 AM
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3. Oliver North under Reagan's orders worked on the first Junta Military
overthrow of our government. That came out in the Iran/Contra Hearings. Right? It's probably the same plan they have now.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:30 AM
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5. The Overthrow is complete...
and has been for several years..

now comes the enslavement.
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drewb Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:36 AM
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8. Absolutely right....
He's about 140 years late...

Sad...
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Sperk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:32 AM
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6. totally logical....I mean, we only want our freedoms if it's safe
Isn't that what the Founding Fathers had in mind? Give me liberty or give me safety! :eyes:

this has been their plan all along, dictators cannot stay in power with out force.
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9119495 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:35 AM
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7. Oh, Can-a-da, my home and native land....
If it happens, it will be time to leave.
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ablbodyed Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:46 AM
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10. How long before....
Canada caves to US pressure? Two weeks at most and there mon't be any practical difference. There are right-wing thugs if Canada too, and they'll push out the moderates. There may not be as many religious nuts as here, but the the broader freedoms will not survive.
I can see Canada at this very moment and while I know it is more liberal in many senses, that liberalism could very easily dissapate. Quebec might hold on longer, but what real power to protect themselves do they have?
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jmcgowanjm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:36 AM
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9. Look out San Francisco!
Bush II is not the legitimately elected president
of the United States.

Deal with that.

That is one of the only "objective truths" out there.
A coup d'etat happened in that country three years
ago, and the Commercial Media (and the
Democratic Party) acquiesced to the coup.

More important than the terror war or economic
wranglings, if suddenly this bad seed child of
Bush I gets "re"-elected, when he was never
elected in the first place, say goodbye to
American democracy.

bigleftoutside
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:18 AM
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17. Not San Francisco, the US Capital Building
Thus the big push to get a republican governor in Calif. There has already been talk of letting governors appoint replacement congressional delegations in the event of some terrorist strike making such repalcements necessary for the continuation of operation of the government.

Show me who would benifit from a hand picked congress and I will show you MIHOP.
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Sushi_lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:47 AM
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11. I completely agree.
Dissenters will be incarcerated.

There are Pentagon manuals for how to construct and manage large-scale "detainment centers" on American soil.

Like PNAC says, all we need is another Pearl Harbor.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:50 AM
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12. Doubt?
He doesn't doubt, he knows. Because he helped make the plans for the military takeover that they are pushing us towards.



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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 08:51 AM
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13. And only yesterday, someone here used Franks to bash Clark
"Shelton and Franks, who know Clark best, say he was dismissed for character issues..."

I really don't consider his opinion on anything valuable.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:11 AM
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14. DUers -- us "tinfoilhat" liberal "leftists" (as some DUers call us) knew
We've KNOWN this was coming. Now you see it in this group's own words...and yes, Franks is seeing things the same way his buddies in the pentegon see things.

They've been setting this up for a long time, right under our noses. It was a no-brainer to those of us watching closely.

The minute I heard the supremes had handed the pResidency to bush, I told my next door neighbors...exact quote: "This will be the end of our Democracy".

So much for extreme right wing radicals who call themselves "conservatives".

We are toast :nuke:

I just sent this to everyone in my e-mail address book. And I plan to blast it to every member of congress -- state and federal.

General Franks' words are TREASON....the planned overthrow of our form of government by a band of fascist/militarist/totalitarian thugs...plain and simple.

:kick::kick::kick::kick::kick:
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:12 AM
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15. Then perhaps we need military men with more faith in our system?
If the people who are sworn to uphold and defend the constitution have so little faith in it, then perhaps they should resign and let someone who really believes in it take over.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:19 AM
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18. duplicate
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Racenut20 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:22 AM
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19. Is he dumb enough to think he will be the head?????
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 09:27 AM
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21. I imagine the attack would take place in DC
Obliterating the current WH-

hoping citizens will forget it ever existed..

Heck, Bush already has a Texas WH built all ready to go.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 11:25 AM
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22. Dupe... locking.
Please continue discussion within the original LBN thread on this topic, which can be found here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=232282&mesg_id=232282

Thanks!
VolcanoJen
DU Moderator
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