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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 10:35 PM
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Bush calls alleged rape-murder 'despicable'

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Bush calls alleged rape-murder 'despicable'

WASHINGTON - President Bush, calling the alleged rape of an Iraqi girl and the murder of her and her family by a U.S. soldier "a despicable crime, if true," said Thursday that Iraqis will learn about the openness of American justice.

Steven D. Green, a former Army private with the 101st Airborne Division, pleaded not guilty to charges Thursday. Green and other soldiers were accused of targeting the girl after seeing her near the Iraqi town of Mahmoudiya earlier this year.

"These are very serious charges and what the Iraqis must understand is that we will deal with these in a very transparent, upfront way," Bush said during an interview broadcast on CNN's "Larry King Live."

"People will be held to account if these charges are true," Bush said. He later added: "People will be brought to justice. There will be absolute justice if this person is guilty."


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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 10:37 PM
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1. Now that's turning lemons into lemonade!
"Iraqis will learn about the openness of American justice." What a unique opportunity!
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 10:42 PM
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3. That is sickening, isn't it?
He ought to learn a little diplomacy.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 10:43 PM
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4. yup, and won't that be interesting.
Edited on Thu Jul-06-06 10:44 PM by uppityperson
edited 'cause I forgot this:sarcasm:
And this:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 02:05 AM
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16. They won't get into Gitmo tho
That's the Black Hole of Calcutta of "amerikan justice"

LOL
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 10:42 PM
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2. He sure likes to talk about "justice"
but I think what he really means is "revenge".
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 10:45 PM
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5. Does that include Bush?
The asshole who sent them there!
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Nevernose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 10:52 PM
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6. It's not an "alleged" rape-murder
We know the kid was raped and murdered.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 12:39 AM
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14. he's the alleged rapist killer
thanks that bothers me too.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 11:05 PM
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7. When troops are overwhealmed, maybe defeated-they break.
I think our troops are at the breaking point. Humans sometimes just snap when pyschiologically they have had it.
Roses are not being thrown at them. A majority of them says it's time to come home. They do not believe in their mission, they never had anyway.
We gotta get them out of there before more attrocities occur. Which they will. Don't think prozak is the answer in this case, as it is on the Amercian homefront.
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xenu Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 12:25 AM
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13. I don't think so

I think rape and murder represent a line that is crossed, behaviorally. Most people are unable to cross that line.

I feel no sympathy for rapists and murderers.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 01:48 AM
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15. Actually, almost anyone is capable of almost anything,
given the right circumstances.

Not excusing it, by any means, but yeah, if the guy hadn't been sent there, put under those circumstances, he might have lived a full and responsible life and never known of the depths to which he could fall. And that poor girl and her family, and a hundred thousand others, might still be alive today.

As for his punishment, is he not the only one charged so far? And wasn't he discharged because of personality disorder? Meaning, he's got a built in insanity defense. Nobody else will get major charges, and he will be excused for his mental condition, and the superiors who obviously knew about this at the time, or he would not have gotten the discharge he did, will see no charges at all for covering it up. The buck stops at the lowest possible rank.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 03:30 AM
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17. I agree.
Edited on Fri Jul-07-06 03:34 AM by cyclezealot
Not saying they should be condonned. But, I do say, we leave them there under these conditions such actions will become far more common as the situation deteorates. It did in VietNam before we were forced out. Search for the winters' soldiers congressional testimony before congress.
Another factor. The neglect the VA puts on our vets. So many are on the streets with mental disorders. Another sign of America's neglect of its poor and our cost of empire. OUr vets will soon add to the ranks of the homeless, with nightmares of their past.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 11:18 PM
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8. As much as Bush is to blame for the war in the first place..
soldiers must be held fully responsible for atrocities like this. The fact that they are overwhelmed or stressed out or over-deployed should never excuse or mitigate a premeditated rape and murder of a young girl. That's just savagery, and the trials of these soldier(s) must not turn into a symposium on the war or Bush's exhaustion of the military.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 11:19 PM
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9. One rape-murder down, 150 thousand more for him to condemn. nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 11:27 PM
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10. Mr. Green and his cohorts should be tried for war crimes at The Hague
together with Bush, Cheney, and an entire plethora of neocons that got us into this criminal war.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-06-06 11:33 PM
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11. "Hey, what about the benefit of the doubt?" Isn't that what the
right said on Haditha?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 12:14 AM
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12. "absolute justice?!! I would like to see justice served on Bushco!!
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:04 AM
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21. Absolute Justice? That struck me as...well...
totally fucking insane! Isn't the only person, if you're a Christian, that can deliver "absolute" justice, God?

Is Bush God now? Maybe he's bought into the Faux News, wing-nut hype, and beleives that America is God? Is our court system God? Just who is going to deliver this "absolute" justice.

Maybe * was thinking about his drinking days. You know, when he used to wake up in the bottom of a bottle of Absolut Vodka?

Sheesh, what a fucking embarrassment.
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KKKarl is an idiot Donating Member (662 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:22 AM
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22. Who is God?
Most Conservative Christians think the USA is god, but they will never admit to that belief. Bush thinks he is god. Fox thinks god writes their fair & balanced programming. Hannity also thinks he is god, but there is one higher than him. This is the circle of friends on the god industry. The industry keeps people in line so the vote will continuously come out having people believe they vote for god to the be the ruler of country & president. All very confusing. I call it Karlinism.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 05:29 AM
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18. Our Army teaches us the only good gook is a dead gook.
Edited on Fri Jul-07-06 05:29 AM by cyclezealot
YEs, maybe political correctiness changes definitions, but the message is understood. OUr military turns our soldiers into killers. Look at the song we witnessed as captured by Michael Moore in Farenheit 9-11. I blame Donald Rumsfield as much as our beleagured troops. US military recruitment standards are constantly lowered in order to fill the ranks of the military.
What do we expect. This is all witnessed my way too many soldiers who just do not know when to stop killing after their training. This can be witnessed by the spousal violence you can track in any local newspaper should you live near a military installation.
Those that perputrate the violence is hatched up by the civillians who run the army. The troops are victims also of the violence that besets the whole of America.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 05:40 AM
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19. Shameless hypocrite. (nt)
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 07:50 AM
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20. Yet Ken Lay's rape of his employees and customers is justified, yes?
x(

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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:23 AM
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23. Despicable! Bush and Sylvester the Cat!
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keta11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 08:27 AM
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24. Did he end with "I support the troops"? n/t
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-07-06 05:42 PM
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25. When is he going to call for justice for those children who were
sodomized and raped in his torture prisons in Iraq? This man does not care that a child was raped or he would have never okayed the torture that we have seen and heard about.
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