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Sat Jul-08-06 04:11 PM
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Spanish McDonald's ad prompts talk of a boycott |
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The mayor of a small Bergen County (NJ) town is calling for a McDonald's boycott if the fast-food chain does not take down a Spanish-language billboard advertising iced coffee. Bogota Mayor Steve Lonegan said the advertisement is "offensive" and "divisive" because it sends a message that Hispanic im migrants do not need to learn English. http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-3/1152334632215530.xml&coll=1
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:13 PM
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1. Well, I'm no fan of McD's... |
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but it's not their job to enforce linguistic conformity.
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:20 PM
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2. Maybe he should take a trip to San Francisco |
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and look at the signs in Chinese. Including the street signs.
You never hear about anyone making a fuss over that, though, do you?
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:37 PM
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7. Yeah and it's funny how Republicans like Lonegan |
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will abandon when it suits their agenda the principle that government shouldn't interfere with private business.
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:24 PM
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I never eat McDonald's crap but who cares if they have a sign in Spanish? Offensive? What's offensive is this asshole's idea that America is not multi-cultural.
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:24 PM
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4. How do you say "fuck you" in spanish? |
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:59 PM
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12. cohes tu, lonegan - chingata!! |
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Edited on Sat Jul-08-06 05:00 PM by mconvente
heheh
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:25 PM
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5. In New Mexico, 1/2 of the page of a birth certificate |
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is in Spanish. Mayor Lonegan has too much time on his hands.
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:28 PM
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6. I guess the mayor thinks Spanish-speaking people don't like iced coffee. |
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Either that, or they have no money.
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:37 PM
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8. "Bogota", isn't that a spanish name for the town? n/t |
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:50 PM
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And Fuck you in spanish depends on which country you're in... in Mexico you're more likely to hear someone send someone "a la chingada"
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Mon Jul-10-06 08:58 AM
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41. I call for a boycott of Bogota until they change their name! |
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:40 PM
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9. I don't remember any fuss about the... |
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...Vorsprung durch Technik ads that Audi has run for decades. I guess German is an OK language but Spanish isn't.
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Mon Jul-10-06 05:38 AM
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32. On that note I grew up in an all German Catholic town in the Midwest |
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Where the official language (enforced by the Priest) was German until WWII broke out.
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Mon Jul-10-06 06:20 PM
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45. I think it's more a commentary on the dearth of ballots |
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which have been required to also be printed in German, Greek, or Polish, etc.. Besides, what language is easier to spoof in grand style in the service of advertising than "Chairman"? Advertising isn't the same thing as asking for bilingual government forms. I wonder just exactly how much luck I'd have were I to demand official forms printed in English from any Spanish, French, German, Polish, Greek, or Tagalog speaking country. Good Luck!!! Advertising ought to be allowed in any tongue whatsoever. It's not a government function.
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Sat Jul-08-06 04:58 PM
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11. that guy is an UBER conservative |
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crazy fucker right up there with bush and cheney
he ran for governor spot for repuke position - the guy is insane. very racist
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Sat Jul-08-06 05:31 PM
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13. Nominated for Top 10 Conservative Idiots AND Worst Person in The World?n/t |
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Sat Jul-08-06 05:34 PM
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heard of "bi-lingual" and maybe it's waxes nostalgic to see something written in Espanol? Some people are so quick to jump to the wrong conclusions to try and score some bogus points.
And so what? I'm so freakin' sick of that whole English thing.
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Sat Jul-08-06 06:30 PM
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Porque le importa a el? Un mac grande (or is it gran mac?) one big mac, Numero dos con Coca, Number two with a coke...
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Sat Jul-08-06 06:45 PM
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16. I used to learn some Spanish words while |
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Edited on Sat Jul-08-06 06:45 PM by NYC
riding the subway. When they put out rat poison, they would put up signs in English and Spanish.
Peligroso.
I forget what else it said.
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Sat Jul-08-06 11:59 PM
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22. mine comes from signs around Santa Ana |
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"Señora, es un cuerpo asesino en mi camara"
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Sun Jul-09-06 12:50 AM
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Please translate. (That reminds me of a Swedish word for the sound a little bird makes.)
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Sun Jul-09-06 01:07 AM
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25. "Madam, there is a murdered body in my room" |
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Sun Jul-09-06 01:21 AM
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All I can remember from the rat poision is peligroso or dangerous.
Maybe that's how the body in the room got dead. :) I can't remember what they said the consequences would be.
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Sun Jul-09-06 01:49 AM
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28. the cognate is "perilous" |
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cognates are also really fun with English and German equivalents in "Beowulf" Getting back on track, language is as flexible as humanity itself, and really our defining characteristic: piddling over Spanish like the Minutemen or this dolt is, is so bibulous it's beyond description or discussion, really
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Sun Jul-09-06 02:16 AM
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I like to translate that: Do not derange.
(Instead of do not disturb.)
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Mon Jul-10-06 05:20 AM
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31. You also get "Non molestar" on hotel door signs... |
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...which I inevitably translate as "Don't molest". Unfortunately, the reverse doesn't say "Molest me now!"
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Mon Jul-10-06 11:17 PM
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The "molest me now" sign would be the talk of the town.
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Mon Jul-10-06 06:54 PM
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47. Wow - I was sure it said "Madam, there's a murdered body in my |
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inner-tube." :sarcasm: Ah well, that's what I get for reading the dictionary idioms - LOL.
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Sat Jul-08-06 06:48 PM
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17. In the most RW spots in Texas we have Spanish billboards. |
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No one even thinks about it.
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Sat Jul-08-06 08:43 PM
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18. You should be required to speak Spanish to promote 'bilingualism' |
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Anyone who promotes 'bilingualism' should be required to speak Spanish (or another language) fluently before being given any credence. (yes, I do speak, read, and write French and German fluently and Spanish enough to get about in small-town Mexico with no problems) Unfortunately, in this country 'bilingualism' is too accurate a denotation (consider 'multi-lingualism' as a more desirable goal) since, in most cases, it means not that one speaks more than one language, but rather that one speaks both Spanish and English (bi-). I'm not sure I'd have done better were I to have had 'bilingual' instruction when I came to the US. I expect I'd have been able to avoid acquiring an accent-free version of English. There's something to be said for the old saw "When in Rome, do as the Romans do."
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Mon Jul-10-06 06:40 AM
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33. Why do you have "bilingualism" in quotation marks? |
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And why are you making the rules for the rest of us? Only people who are fluent in Spanish are allowed to advertise their business in Spanish?
You may not be able to speak English without an accent. However, you can always learn to write the language less incoherently.
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Mon Jul-10-06 05:48 PM
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44. Because it's such an iconic issue to some folks |
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Bridget, There's a difference between opinion and rules. I don't recall addressing the freedom to advertise in any tongue one chooses to advertise in. Perhaps you're just unaccustomed to apprehending the meaning of a double negative spanning two sentences. There's also something to be said for careful reading.
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Tue Jul-11-06 09:48 AM
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51. What's the point of "a double negative spanning two sentences"? |
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MenudoOmatic, I applaud your command of several languages. There's always room to improve.
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Tue Jul-11-06 07:08 PM
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53. Does a form require a point? |
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Indeed, it's a tautology that there's always room for improvement. Nice play on words though!
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Wed Jul-12-06 01:16 PM
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Sat Jul-08-06 09:14 PM
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19. This guys right on target. |
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This is definitely the most pressing issue in NJ! :sarcasm:
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Sat Jul-08-06 09:38 PM
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20. that guy is a f****ing assclown |
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Sat Jul-08-06 11:32 PM
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Edited on Sat Jul-08-06 11:35 PM by Miss Chybil
Where does it say, "Free Speech, Only in English?"
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Sun Jul-09-06 12:01 AM
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23. Lonegan? This Lonegan? Tell him what ya think... |
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Sun Jul-09-06 01:41 AM
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27. Well then where are the wingnuts going to eat? |
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Sun Jul-09-06 02:00 AM
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29. If Lonegan can't speak Lenape or Munsee, he should STFU |
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Mon Jul-10-06 06:49 AM
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34. Except for the racism this sounds like a wonderful town |
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Surely the streets must be clean, the schools leading the nation, and the crime negligible because I'm certain this mayor wouldn't be trying to latch onto the latest wedge issue to get himself some press and distract people from the real problems they face.
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Mon Jul-10-06 07:02 AM
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35. For all the DU xenophobes: Yeah, this has nothing to do with racism |
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English only is a racist discourse. There's no way around that. Iced fucking coffee, now. Hilarious.
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Mon Jul-10-06 07:02 AM
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36. Let 'em spend a year in South Florida |
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And let's see how far this asshole get with his frivolous complaining.
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Mon Jul-10-06 07:09 AM
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37. I spent most of my life in South Florida. |
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And I am now living in North Georgia. Spanish everywhere is one of the reasons I moved out. I was sick of going into a store and the clerks would speak to me in Spanish. I would become quite annoyed and would tell them that I did not speak Spanish and would they please speak English.
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Mon Jul-10-06 07:56 AM
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Anyone been abroad lately? Noticed how many places have to write their signs in English for the ignorant pigs who refuse to learn the local language? Hypocrisy really "grinds my gears".
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Mon Jul-10-06 07:54 AM
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39. I find the average liquor ads to be offensive, not McD's ads in spanish |
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Some of the billboards around Detroit for liquor are so offensive to women.
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Mon Jul-10-06 01:21 PM
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42. This from the mayor of Bogota, NJ? |
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:rofl: What an idiot. Perhaps he should also change his town's name - It might send the "wrong message" to God-fearing Americans.
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Mon Jul-10-06 06:52 PM
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46. How about "Freedomville, N.J."? |
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Let's all go to Freedomville for a Freedom Coffee, uh, not.
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Tue Jul-11-06 08:24 AM
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Someone should suggest that at the next town meeting. I saw this mayor was just on the Glenn Beck show yesterday. :eyes: He is catching fire! Maybe he'll become the next Lou Dobbs, speaking out on behalf of aggrieved middle-aged white men everywhere.
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Mon Jul-10-06 01:25 PM
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43. So much for free speech |
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Isn't McDonald's entitled to advertise it's products any way that they want to, as long as it's not false advertising?
America... home of the free!!!!
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Mon Jul-10-06 06:55 PM
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48. It is impossible to boycott Mickey D's in Bogota, N.J. |
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for the simple reason that Mayor Lonegan's domain is too small (in more ways than one :P ) to support a McD's; the nearest one appears to be across the river in Hackensack. :rofl:
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Tue Jul-11-06 11:13 AM
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52. A business has to communicate to it's customers no matter what the bigots |
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want.
This is the thing that will keep Spanish out there in the open. It is just good business to communicate in the language of your customers. Bigots and racists just don't pay the bills but customers do.
There was a story in our local paper a while back about some guy selling hamburgers and he would not sell to anyone who did not order in English.
I felt that if someone opened up a hamburger stand next to him and sold to anyone no matter what language they spoke, the first guy would go out of business yet hold on to his prejudice like the fool he is.
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Tue Jul-11-06 09:43 PM
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54. As a conservative republican and laissez-faire capitalist... |
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I find it APPALLING that the government should try to influence or restrict a corporate entity from exercising its freedom of speech and...oh wait. The sign is in Spanish? Well, fuck that. We can't have that, can we?
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Tue Jul-11-06 09:49 PM
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...was the best place on TV to see the World Cup. I guess that is insulting to non-Spanish speaking Americans! Divisive! Offensive!
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