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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:31 PM
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Federal judge: FBI raid on Congressman W. Jefferson's D.C. Office LEGAL
nothing further yet

http://www.wwltv.com/
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:37 PM
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1. Unitary Executive Nancy Peolosi will enjoy her new police powers! n/t
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:39 PM
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3. You Really Think They're Going To Allow That?
The repubs will Never allow the Democrats to win a majority this year. Ain't gonna happen. You don't need to get your hopes up about Pelosi having any powers. She'll have the same power she has now......NONE.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:41 PM
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11. You just killed my boner. :( n/t
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:51 PM
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12. I'm all for it... let them do the USSCJ too while we are at it
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LA lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:38 PM
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2. Yes, here also
I just heard this too
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Democrat 4 Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:42 PM
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4. Good. If Jefferson did something wrong I want him gone as much as
any corrupt repug. Warrants are served every day in this country - I don't think that Congressional offices should be sacrosanct. We don't have the luxury in our own homes or offices, why should they?

That said, can ya imagine the gnashing of teeth and wailing going on in the offices of Frist, Hassert, and all of the other slimy repugs? They now know their offices are not some blessed refuges of evil doings. The cops can waltz right in and take their records if the situation (and warrant) deems it necessary. Guess that means they will have to be more careful while trashing the Consitution, stealing elections and currying favor with the special interest groups.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:45 PM
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5. Exactly
We talk so much about Duh-bya's illegal activities. We'd come across as hypocrites if we tried to defend Jefferson.
Ringo
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yppahemnkm Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:47 PM
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6. Innocent until proven otherwise
Right.
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:51 PM
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7. yppah
I'm not saying he's guilty. If he is, then we shouldn't try to defend him. He did something wrong, and he should pay for it. We shouldn't knee-jerk and assume that he's completely innocent or guilty.
Ringo
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 07:32 PM
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14. innocent until proven guilty don't apply to black men
this world disgusts me
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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:29 PM
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15. pitohui
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 11:36 PM by Ringo84
You're the one bringing up his race. I had neither mentioned it nor assumed he was guilt because of his race before you brought it up.

If he's innocent, fine. But if he's found to be guilty, then Democrats should be consistent and criticize him for his illegal activities.

All I'm saying is that we shouldn't automatically assume that he's innocent or guilty.

There's a lot of knee-jerking going on here. Now I'm a racist because I think that if Jefferson's guilty he should not be supported by our party?
Ringo
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:33 PM
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16. i'm not the one making this abt race!
Edited on Mon Jul-10-06 11:33 PM by pitohui
if you think pitohui is the one who singled out the congressman to invade his office and home at a time when we needed him in his position on the ways and means committee then what can i say?

i call 'em as i see em and when i see a black congressman treated differently from all of the white congressmen before him then i will draw my own conclusions

if and when he is found to be guilty, crap on him then, until then the circular firing squad needs to hold off

how many years did the GOP stand by tom delay, how many years of power did that buy the people in his district?

i am not accusing anyone on this site of racism, but this society and the FBI, yes, i do accuse

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Ringo84 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:37 PM
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18. Oh
Well, the FBI and society in general is a different story. I understand where you're coming from.

Sorry. I guess I was the one who knee-jerked.
Ringo
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Biernuts Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 05:29 PM
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13. Agree - the Constitution protects congressional speeches and
debates, not offices, homes, cars or freezers
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Dembo98 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 03:57 PM
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8. I think we all...
knew how this was going to end. Good bye and good riddance I say. Pelosi did the right thing.
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:08 PM
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9. Link
http://www.nola.com/newsflash/louisiana/index.ssf?/base/news-26/1152563673322780.xml&storylist=louisiana

Chief U.S. District Judge Thomas F. Hogan said members of Congress are not above the law. He rejected requests from lawmakers and Democratic Rep. William Jefferson to return material seized by the FBI in a May 20-21 search of Jefferson's office.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 04:14 PM
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10. The FBI apparently said that it was an unusual case, in that if
they hadn't made a dawn raid to seize the documents, he might well have moved them and concealed their whereabouts.
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SensibleAmerican Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-10-06 11:34 PM
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17. Great, now the GOP can no longer call corruption ... speech and debate
n/t
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