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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:44 AM
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U.S. Condemns Video Showing Mutilation of 2 Soldiers

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=ayw.tY_QxMs0&refer=

U.S. Condemns Video Showing Mutilation of 2 Soldiers (Update1)

July 11 (Bloomberg) -- The U.S. military today condemned the release of a videotape purported to show the mutilated bodies of two U.S. soldiers who were kidnapped and killed last month.

The video ``demonstrates the barbaric and brutal nature of the terrorists and their complete disregard for human life,'' the military said in a statement e-mailed from Baghdad.

Private First Class Kristian Menchaca, 23, and Private First Class Thomas L. Tucker, 25, from the 101st Airborne Division, went missing June 16 after an attack on a checkpoint near the Euphrates River. Their bodies were found rigged with explosives near Yusufiyah, 12 miles (19 kilometers) south of the capital, June 20. A third soldier was killed in the attack.

The Mujahedeen Shura Council, an alliance of at least five al-Qaeda-linked groups in Iraq, said in a written message introducing the video that the soldiers were killed in revenge for the rape and murder of a girl in Mahmoudiyah, 20 miles south of Baghdad, by soldiers from the same unit. The video and message were posted yesterday on a Web site used by Islamist groups.


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laruemtt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:51 AM
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1. i feel for those soldiers' families and
all the families of the soldiers and the iraqis themselves. what a mess. thanks a load, georgie.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:58 AM
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2. yes, the families---how horrible for them.
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SheepyMcSheepster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 07:58 AM
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3. I wonder.......
The video ``demonstrates the barbaric and brutal nature of the terrorists and their complete disregard for human life,'' the military said in a statement e-mailed from Baghdad.


I wonder what the raping of a girl and the killing of her and her family demonstrates according to the "military"?

It's just so surreal.

Condolonces go out to the families of those soldiers. What a mess.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:03 AM
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5. And white phosphorous is defined as a defensive weapon.
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President Kerry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 04:03 PM
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17. 2 wrongs don't make a right. What you say is true of course,
but irrelevant to this thread.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:00 AM
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4. more---"Soldier Beheaded" but video is no longer available.


This is a video ``on the remains of the bodies of the two American soldiers who were kidnapped near Yusufiyah,'' according to the message from the Mujahedeen Shura Council, which had previously said it killed the soldiers. ``We're showing it to avenge our sister, who was dishonored by a soldier belonging to the same division as these two soldiers,'' the group said.

Soldier Beheaded

The video was no longer accessible on the Web site today. The Associated Press reported that the 4 minutes and 39 seconds of video showed two bodies in torn military uniforms and covered with blood, lying on a bridge over a canal. One of the soldiers had been beheaded and his chest cut open, AP said, adding that the other's face was bruised, with his jaw appearing to be broken and his leg gashed.

The U.S. military has accused four soldiers of participating in the rape and murder of the girl and the murder of three members of her family in Mahmoudiyah, while a fifth soldier was charged with dereliction of duty for failing to report the incident. A former soldier from their unit, Steven D. Green, was charged July 3 in a U.S. civilian court with rape and murder in the case.

U.S. military investigators are looking into whether the death of the two soldiers and the crimes in Mahmoudiyah are tied.
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DeadManInc Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:05 AM
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6. But it is ok for them to show dead terrists pics
all over the media.
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:12 AM
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8. Yup. Like we don't parade pictures
of dead "terrorists" all over the media.
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 02:27 PM
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15. Amazing, isn't it?
This disconnect with reality is going to come back and haunt them in Washington....soon. If it hasn't already.

You can't go around the world doing what we've done - and not expect some kind of retaliation.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:11 AM
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7. Which reminds me . . .
When are the rest of the Abu Ghraib photos coming out?

And the videos.

And the audiotapes.

And the "interrogation" sessions at Guantanamo.

And will the military have anything to say about the "barbaric and brutal nature" of its own personnel, and give us its estimation of its own regard for human life? Or is demotion and a dishonorable discharge punishment enough for murderers and rapists as long as they're wearing the right uniform?
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:13 AM
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9. Who's barbaric? I forget...n/t
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:21 AM
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10. As U.S. Military Recruiters Actively Sign Up Racist Sociopaths......
Be assured,
revenge torture and murder will continue throughout occupied Iraq.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/07/washington/07recruit.html
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 09:53 AM
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21. They sign up mental defectives and killers
And then are appalled when these people "GREASE" a few towel wearers.
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wordpix2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 09:55 AM
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22. don't forget the gang members and skinheads that are signing up
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 12:15 PM
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24. They get training in Rock and Roll
You firearms people know what I mean
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 08:22 AM
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11. I don't recall Iraq inviting those two soldiers to their country.
Steven Green from Midland Texas where junior received his family values and moral compass, 'eh?



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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:35 AM
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12. No more barbaric than everyday practice of U.S. occupation.
U.S. barbarism is only "sanitary" or "medicinal" with its push-buttom murder. It protects U.S. troops consciences by partially insulating them from the consequences of their actions. Certainly someone like John McCain is every bit as barbaric as these "mutilators," with his bombing runs that killed many women and children.
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Bush_MUST_Go Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:47 AM
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13. Posting the video IS disgusting.
But the US lost its ability to be taken seriously when they condemn such things when bush chose to sidestep the Geneva Conventions with slimy legal maneuvering.

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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 10:54 AM
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14. Sure it is, but...
...Americans have lost the moral right to pass these sorts of judgements. They have to earn the respect of the world. And that can only be done by acting against the crimes being perpetrated by the U.S.
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 06:34 PM
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18. Not To Nitpick Too Much
...but we didn't so much lose the moral right to pass these sorts of judgements as we threw it away like a hot potato.

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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 03:47 PM
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16. ogrish.com
that video appears to still be available on orgrish.com
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-11-06 06:37 PM
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19. Is that "Islamist" website hosted on a Colorado server?
Or maybe one in Langley, Virginia?
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 01:27 AM
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20. Trust me you don't want to see the video, I almost puked.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-12-06 11:06 AM
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23. HYPOCRITES!
The U.S. military had no problem displaying the bodies of Saddam's sons and Zarqawi's body.
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