Two polls say Reed dropping (in Republican primary)

[onehandle]

A withering assault by Cagle, via TV and direct mail, said to be prying voters away from ex-Christian Coalition leader

The idea of a nationally watched race for lieutenant governor is silly enough. But the fact that the contest could turn on an argument over the minimum wage on an archipelago in the Pacific Ocean is downright incredible.

Two polls out today say that support for Ralph Reed is dropping in the Republican race for lieutenant governor, thanks to a ruthless push on the ground and in the air by Casey Cagle.

Insider Advantage numbers will be out this afternoon. Strategic Vision, a Republican public relations firm, this morning put Cagle on top for the first time, but barely: 42 to 41 percent.

On Monday, Cagle began a coordinated TV ad/direct mail assault on Reed, connecting the ex-Christian Coalition leader to Washington lobbyist Jack Abramoff’s efforts on behalf of the U.S. Commonwealth of the Northern Marianas Islands.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/shared-blogs/ajc/politicalinsider/entries/2006/07/12/two_polls_say_reed_dropping.html

[stanwyck]

1. news like this is enough

to make me believe in God.
Praise the Lord.
Thank God.
I live in Atlanta. And if Reed oozes into office on his own slime then the Christian right in this country loses every iota of credibility. Voting for a man whose own emails illustrate his deceptiveness and cold-blooded win at any cost ambition repudiates any claim Chrisians have on "values".

[CottonBear]

2. I pray that we elect a Dem. Lt. Gov. because Cagle is a real bastard.

I'm pretty sure Reed won't win the primary. He's too fundy and crokked for even most Republican voters here in Georgia.

State senator Casey Cagle (R-Gainesville), along with fundy wingnut Ralph Hudgins (R- Madison County) (he owns the billboard company responsible for those godawful 'god' billboards on GA Hwy. 316) and Brian Kemp (who represents Athens but doesn't actually live there who is now running for Ag Commissioner...) are the cabal who conspired to split Athens-Clarke COunty into two state senate districts so that two wingnuts can lord over our blue city-county filled with artists, professors, musicians, GLBTs, students, the poor, ethnic and racial minorities and elderly. (we used to have a Democratic state senator, Doug Haines, who served one term before losing to Republican Brian Kempin the 2002 Diebold election.) I know Brian Kemp. He is a greedy bstard too. He's a land developer who couldn't give a shit about the enviroment, urban forest, wildlife, quality of life, air or water quality or control of erosion and storm water runoff.

:grr:

edit: sp.

[Terran1212]

11. I live in Georgia too (coming to UGA this upcoming year)

And I agree: these guys are bad fundie news. I mean most DUers I think who live in blue states don't know how it is to live under these guys.

Athens and Atlanta can't hold them off fast enough with their votes.

[mitchum]

16. I also despise that cabal for the same reasons...

however, one thing perplexes me about Dem John Barrow. He's a nice guy and all, but he knew that those bastards were going to succeed in redistricting him out of a job, so whyingodsname has he voted in line with the repugs much???!!! It just doesn't make any sense. If I were on a deathwatch like Barrow, I would go in there and vote like a REAL Democrat in the limited time that I had left. It just doesn't make sense.

[CottonBear]

27. I know John. I've been apalled by his right turn.

He is moving to Savannah and will run for Congress from there in a new district.

I suppose he's voting to impress conservative and mostly elderly Democratic voters. He sure isn't appealing to liberals and minoriites.

:shrug:

[NoAmericanTaliban]

3. I live in GA & am deciding whether cross over & vote against Reed

I don't want that cult leader given any change to win. If I vote GOP then I would be able to vote in a run off. Winner has to have at least 50% of the vote. Don't count Reed out, he can mobilize the cool aid drinkers.

[GodlessBiker]

4. Do it!

[sandnsea]

7. I'd vote FOR him

Make him the damn poster child for "Christian" moral values, hang that bastard right around the Republican Party's neck. The best chance the Dems have to win is to have Ralph Reed on a GE ballot.

[warrens]

30. Yes, keep Reed in the news

The Dem can then say, even though he is totally corrupt, Repukes still voted for him, showing their hypocrisy. That should peel off SOME Repukes, who might just stay home or even vote Dem. Either way, we get national publicity all the way through November.

[Up2Late]

10. That might be the answer to my dilemma too. I don't really really know who

...the Dems are running for Lt. Gov, but I REALLY don't want Reid to make it to the November sElection, because Diebold is going to pick who wins anyway.

It no longer matters what the "...cool aid drinkers..." do anymore, our vote belongs to the Diebold Corporation. :argh:

Tuesday's election is gonna SUCK. I posted about it here: <http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2717265>

...The Georgia for Primary Governor is next week, and here are the choices:

Current Lt. Governor Mark Taylor - Average Georgia Democrat (hopefully nothing like Zell)

or

Current Secretary of State Cathy "I sold out Georgia to the Diebold Corporation" Cox - Democrat?...

[CottonBear]

19. Do it & vote against Kemp for Ag Comm too.

Kemp and Reed are scum. Kemp is especailly awful. Anyone but Kemp and Reed.

[mitchum]

24. I asked my wife the other day, why didn't the Kemp campaign just...

nail their campaign signs directly on to trees? It would just echo that scumbag's lack of concern for the enviroment. Seemingly something he is untroubled by.

[CottonBear]

26. Many of his signs are on construction sites devoid of vegetation.

Ironic, isn't it since he's running for Ag Comm. Most of his signs are in Oconee County. The more erosion and runoff, the better a place to post an illegal sign in the RW. Oconee County code enforcement turns a blind eye to these illegal signs. Republicans steal most all signs of Democratic candidates in Oconee County. My friends there have Democratic signs on their property frontage (not in the right of way) stolen within 24 hours. They have to get at least 5 of each campaign sign. I'm tempted to stake out the rural location and take photos of the offenders. That, or I'm going to coat the signs with used motor oil.

BTW, did you read the Flagpole editorial (last weeks not this weeks)? Pete McCommens suggested voting against Reed. I've never voted Republican but now is the time to start.

[mitchum]

22. I live in Athens and that is exactly what I have been planning to do

I will do anything to stop that creepy waxworks looking charlatan. Judging by his actions, Reed despises those snakehandling psalmsinging nitwits as much as I do, but, unlike Reed, I don't pretend to be one of them

[NoAmericanTaliban]

5. Just posted to the ajc blog..

I consider myself a libertarian & strongly believe in getting gov't out of our lives. I wouldn't vote for Reed because of he and his cult followers want to stick their nose in places where they don't belong. This is a very insecure, hateful, & controlling mentality. All things Jesus was not. I'm surprised they don't have the police sniff our bed sheets every morning or have mandatory prayer/cool-aid drinking sessions for everyone.

He talks big on morals but doesn't practice them. Too bad he decided to keep a lot of the Abramoff money for himself instead of donate it to the needy. That would have been the Christian thing to do.

[joefree1]

6. Great post, great signature

Hey fellow Mac person, thanks for sharing the message.


Created on a Mac.

[AndyTiedye]

8. Why Is Reed Running for Office Instead of Running From the Police?

He's a CROOK. Everybody KNOWS he's a CROOK.

Surely even the Fundies know he's been buying and selling their votes.

Why would ANYBODY vote for him?

Why isn't he in jail?

[Cookie wookie]

9. Saw a yard sign for him

on way home from work yesterday.

Go figure.

[saltpoint]

12. Ralph Reed is one of the most monstrous of Republicans. And that's

saying somethin'.

I'd surely prefer a Democrat for the Lt. Gov.'s job. But any obstacle in Reed's path to power is probably a plus.

He is not a nice man.

[MasonJar]

13. Surely Georgians will not elect a crook like Ralph Reed to help

run their state.

[onehandle]

15. We threw out Max Cleland for Saxby Chambliss.

And we'd do it again!

Never underestimate the greed, fundieness, and just plain stupidity of us Georgians.

[CottonBear]

18. We were Diebolded by Cathy Cox. The majority was for Max & Roy. n/t

[onehandle]

21. Could be.

One thing's for sure. Come next year Cathy Cox is out of a job, one way or another.

[CottonBear]

17. Some Georgia Republicans might'" because he's a Christian."

I heard that on a radio interview here in GA tonight. :( "i'd vote for him 'cause he's a christian." :(

Hopefully, the development/business crowd will realize that Ralph is way over the edge - a potential albatross around their greedy necks and they'll vote for Cagle. * gag* Cagle's awful too, but he's not as bad as Ralph. (And I detedst Cagle for many other reasons...)

I was in college with Ralph at UGA. He got kicked off the student paper he wrote RW columns in the early 1980s) for plagiarism. (He trashed Ghandi... WTF?) This was before he became a "christian." What a hypocrite. Gawd, I detest that man. :grr:

I'm voting in the Republicn primary against Reed and against Brian Kemp for Ag Commisiioner and against any other epublican that has a chance in hell of getting the primary win. I've never done it before but I will now. There's only one Democratic primary in my area and only Dems are running for office (no Repubs running) so I can afford to vote agaisnt the msot heinous orf Repubs. :puke:

I'll hold my nose and vote for Cox for Gov. but only because Perdue is slime. I've met him twice now and he's (Perdue) is still slime IMHO.

[mitchum]

23. Georgia is full of the venal and stupid, so why wouldn't they?

[MGKrebs]

28. You can drive down West Paces Ferry Road,

where the governors mansion is, and is one of the ritziest streets in all of Atlanta, and there are quite a few Reed yard signs in front of these huge houses.

Wealthy and influential doesn't necessarily mean smart I guess.

[TroglodyteScholar]

14. I love it when these guys destroy one another...

...inevitable.

...delicious.

[Clyde39]

20. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!

Ralph "Stealth" Reed has gotten very rich by working his special magic behind-the-scenes.....NOT a nice guy!

[MGKrebs]

25. Don't believe the polls.

As a friend of mine has said, Ralph will win because he can get people to the polls. It's what he does. Other people pay him to do it for them.
Sometimes, it's all about turning out your people.

[CottonBear]

29. Good point MGKrebs. He can turn out the fundy vote like no one else.

His hard core, fundy supporters simply do not beleive that Reed has ever done anything immoral or illegal. They listen only to their church leaders and RW radio. They do not read or hear the real news and facts abour Reed, Abramoff, et al.

I must admit, that I'm surprised at the amount of support he has. I put anti-Reed leaflets on vehicles with Bush-Cheney stickers at a Reed rally. The leaflets were about Reed's dirty dealings, hypocrisy and how he uses the fundies. Hopefully, some of those people changed their mind about Reed.

:hi:

[varun]

31. Reed has been sued b y an Indian Tribe

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/13/us/13tribe.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

HOUSTON, July 12 — An Indian tribe sued the former superlobbyist Jack Abramoff and Ralph Reed, a candidate for lieutenant governor in Georgia, on Wednesday, seeking millions of dollars in lost revenues from a casino that the Texas tribe said had been fraudulently closed.

The suit, in Federal District Court in Austin, says Mr. Abramoff, Mr. Reed and three other men mounted a fake religiously themed moral crusade in 2001 to defeat a bill in the Texas Legislature that would have legalized gambling in Indian casinos.

Their real motive, the suit adds, was to promote the gambling interests of a tribe in Louisiana that was paying them to represent its interest in a competing casino...

[0007]

32. Now if they can only get Senator John Cornyn and Tom Craddick

I'll be happy again.

[Judi Lynn]

33. Houston Chron/NY Times:Conservative's campaign tinged by Abramoff ties

July 16, 2006, 3:12AM
Conservative's campaign tinged by Abramoff ties
Polls show Reed behind opponent in Georgia primary


By SHAILA DEWAN
New York Times

MARIETTA, GA. - It is curious enough to see Ralph Reed, a man who was on the cover of Time magazine at age 33, the man widely credited with galvanizing evangelical Christians into a national political force, putting everything he has into a race for the relatively low-profile job of lieutenant governor of Georgia.

But it is stranger still to see him losing ground.

Because of Reed's entanglement in a national lobbying scandal, a political contest that once seemed well within his grasp has turned into a battle for his personal and professional reputation, and it is not clear whether he will survive the Republican primary Tuesday.

At a recent rally in the northwest Atlanta suburbs, where people ate hot dogs and strawberries compliments of the Cobb County Republican Women's Club, a longtime ally of Reed's in a red "Support Our Troops" sweater pulled the candidate close and whispered anxiously in his ear.

"Don't worry," Reed said. "We know what we're doing. Just call your friends and get them to vote."
(snip/...)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4049651.html

[Judi Lynn]

34. Houston Chron/NY Times:Conservative's campaign tinged by Abramoff ties

July 16, 2006, 3:12AM
Conservative's campaign tinged by Abramoff ties
Polls show Reed behind opponent in Georgia primary


By SHAILA DEWAN
New York Times

MARIETTA, GA. - It is curious enough to see Ralph Reed, a man who was on the cover of Time magazine at age 33, the man widely credited with galvanizing evangelical Christians into a national political force, putting everything he has into a race for the relatively low-profile job of lieutenant governor of Georgia.

But it is stranger still to see him losing ground.

Because of Reed's entanglement in a national lobbying scandal, a political contest that once seemed well within his grasp has turned into a battle for his personal and professional reputation, and it is not clear whether he will survive the Republican primary Tuesday.

At a recent rally in the northwest Atlanta suburbs, where people ate hot dogs and strawberries compliments of the Cobb County Republican Women's Club, a longtime ally of Reed's in a red "Support Our Troops" sweater pulled the candidate close and whispered anxiously in his ear.

"Don't worry," Reed said. "We know what we're doing. Just call your friends and get them to vote."
(snip/...)

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4049651.html