Iraqi parliament speaker: Jews finance acts of violence in Iraq

[sabra]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/738332.html

Iraqi parliament speaker: Jews finance acts of violence in Iraq

By The Associated Press

BAGHDAD, Iraq - Iraq's parliament speaker Thursday accused "Jews" of financing acts of violence in Iraq in order to discredit Islamists who control the parliament and government so they can install their "agents" in power.

Mahmoud al-Mashhadani hinted that the Americans and Israelis did not want to see officials of Sunni and Shi'ite parties running the country because "this is not their agenda."

"They will say that we brought you in a democratic way to the government but you are sectarian people. One of you is killing the other and you don't deserve to become leaders because you are war lords," al-Mashhadani told reporters after a parliament meeting.

...

"Some people say 'we saw you beheading, kidnappings and killing. In the end we even started kidnapping women who are our honor,"' al-Mashhadani said. "These acts are not the work of Iraqis. I am sure that he who does this is a Jew and the son of a Jew."

[Terran1212]

1. Iraq can be drawn into all this and then we'll have come full circle

One huge pit of killing thanks to 6 years of an unelected leader we shouldn't have let take office past day 1.

[saigon68]

10. Maybe the US can attack Iraq and effect a REGIME CHANGE ?

OOPS THEY ALREADY DID

This is the US Quisling PUPPET speaking out of turn

LOL

[uppityperson]

2. oh give me a break, it is the clenis that is funding violence.

:sarcasm: seriously, how stupid do they think people are?

[AngryAmish]

8. Post of the Day!

[Barrett808]

3. Just wait until the Iraq parliament refuses to recognize Israel

Then it will be mellow.

[Kagemusha]

4. There's talk of putting Kurd troops in Bagdhad as "honest brokers"

It's well known that the Israelis have courted the Kurds as a card to play against Iran, so this is not, as I see it, some random act of racism (or religious-ism) devoid of context. This is an attempt to smear anyone who might take over from the Sunni and Shiite *Arab* parties. That leaves the Kurds, obviously.

Not saying it doesn't stink in the slightest - it does. But "the Jews" probably aren't the main target. It's "allies of the Jews" - Kurds, Americans...

[Poll_Blind]

5. What sick bullshit. I have to say, the nation of Israel did not make...

...the best move on behalf of the Jewish people (as a whole) by wrapping itself in the sheep's skin of Jewishness. The Israeli government arguably represents itself as some defender of Jews when for the last 20 years their conservative governments have caused all kinds of bullshit hell which diasporic Jews, among others, have had to pay for. Its an unnecessary and klunky conflation which is why just about every Diasporic Jew winces whenever Israel makes another high-tech bone-headed move- because they know they'll personally have to deal with it. Granted, if there were liberal governments in place, I guess they could have spent the last 20 years improving the Jewish image, worldwide, whatever that means.

But still it's a dangerous conflation. I guess it's unavoidable the way Israel was set up but it's still gotta suck for the huge number of moderate/liberal Jews whose identity has been hijacked by a conservative government. Many parallels to Bush's hijacking of Christianity for evil ends in his conservative government.

PB

[cali]

9. wrapping itself within the sheepskin of Jewishness?

Huh? Strange take on the story.

[coalition_unwilling]

11. Anecdote from World War II: the Saudi King advised (or recommended)

to FDR that the future Jewish state be established in the ruins of the defeated and devastated Germany.

How prescient such advice now seems.

[Journeyman]

6. Why, of course they are. They, and the bicyclists. . .

"Why the bicyclists?" asks the perplexed anti-Semite.

"Why the Jews?" comes the ready reply.


(An historical joke, recounted by Hannah Arendt, on the development of wildly irrational anti-Semitic claims in the wake of the Great War.)

[Az_lefty]

7. the Jews are about as responsible for violence in Iraq

as Iraq is responsible for 911.
:puke:

[BillZBubb]

13. Hmmm, not quite.

Not to paint with a broad brush, but Israel was pimping the invasion of Iraq from the get go. A lot of the disinformation about Saddam Hussein came from them. So, I'd say Israel had a direct hand in pushing the invasion. The current violence is a logical result of the invasion which removed the Iraqi power structure. The Iraqi making the comment surely meant Israel by his comment.

I don't think anyone can claim Saddam Hussein or Iraq were pimping for a 9/11 attack.

[cali]

15. Evidence that

Israel was pimping for the invasion of Iraq? A couple of people said it well in this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x133852

[Jacobin]

12. What is lost in the translation is this:

Iraqis call American soldiers "Jews". It is their pejorative term for the occupying forces. The same way we used to call the Japanese enemy "Japs" or the North Vietnamese forces "gooks"

Before everyone jumps on their antisemitic pity party kneejerk reaction, please remember that is the Iraqi's term for the hated occupying soldiers.

Thank you.

[sabra]

14. this quote has a little different angle though:

"I can tell you about these Jewish, Israelis and Zionists who are using Iraqi money and oil to frustrate the Islamic movement in Iraq and come with the agent and cheap project."

[Igel]

16. Or perhaps the wall we called the Vietnamese "French."

All you've done is say that the assumption that this rabid Jew-hating xenophobe made is the default assumption among many Sunnis, and possibly among Shi'ites. You get those stellar preaching misteaching folk for decades, and, well, what can you expect? It makes Falwell look like Einstein.

You get the same rhetoric from Sa'udi Arabia and other Salafists. Muslims are perfect, and if one's corrupt or murderous, first you deny it's happened, but if there's evidence that can't be denied, well, it has to be because of Jewish influence. You know, the source of all corruption and sin since the beginning?

The US pushed for inclusivity to get this guy a soap box?

[Lurking Dem]

26. Using Jew as a perjorative

isn't anti-Semitic?

[Jacobin]

27. I think you may have missed the point.

Using the word 'gook' to describe an asian population we are at war with is no less dehumanizing (the point, really) than calling the troops occupying Iraq "Jews". My complaint is the the former is considered good ole GI Joe sloganeering, and the latter is considered by many to be cause for immediate capital punishment. I do not follow that creed.

Iraqis are not fond of Israel and its inhabitants, for reasons that could be discussed and debated for weeks. The fact that they use the word as a pejorative is simply a fact, not an invitation to debate whose use of a racial slur is worse than another's use of a racial slur.

[IndianaGreen]

17. If you guys don't like hearing this shit, then put Saddam back in power

Saddam had no problems eliminating the religious fanatics, and he kept the Shia at bay. No Saddam? Then you have to live with the consequences!

[Behind the Aegis]

18. You like hearing it?

The only solution is to place Saddam back into power? Any Jew should cringe at this type of rhetoric, because they will distinguish between the Jews for or against the war in their country, there is only one type: Jew!

[IndianaGreen]

19. Would you rather have Iran control Iraq?

That's the only choices you have! The rest is just a neocon pipe dream!

[Behind the Aegis]

20. They spew the same rhetoric.

What does that have to do with what I asked you?

[IndianaGreen]

21. We are better off with a secular thug that can be bought, such as Saddam

Than a religious thug that has a theocratic agenda and can never be bought.

[Behind the Aegis]

22. We are, but what about the people of Iraq?

They were fucked then, they are fucked now. No Jewish person should ever excuse anti-Semitism, no matter who spews it!

[IndianaGreen]

24. What about them? They are worse off now than they ever were!

As to anti-Semitism, you and I both know that what the Iranian Speaker said is something that is said everyday by the Arab media. Israel could disappear into thin air tomorrow and they would still be spewing this shit because that's the only thing that holds them together: their hatred for us!

[Sam Odom]

23. Why ?

Such anti-Semitism with some folks on the "Left" here on DU.

I'm not religious, in fact I'm agnostic.

[IndianaGreen]

25. Saddam hated the religious wackos like Iran's Speaker of Parliament

As to anti-Semitism, it is a daily occurrence in the Middle East, and I've heard worse!

[omenapoint]

28. Just like Saddam.

Saddam used to finance terrorist attacks against Israel by suicide bombers.