Putin rejects Bush's Iraq democracy model

[Thor_MN]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/07/15/russia.g8/index.html

Saturday, July 15, 2006; Posted: 6:57 a.m. EDT (10:57 GMT)

ST. PETERSBURG, Russia (CNN) -- Russian President Vladimir Putin has rejected a suggestion from U.S. President George W. Bush that his country should emulate democracy in Iraq

"I talked about my desire to promote institutional change in parts of the world, like Iraq where there's a free press and free religion, and I told him that a lot of people in our country would hope that Russia would do the same," Bush said.

To that, Putin replied, "We certainly would not want to have the same kind of democracy that they have in Iraq, quite honestly."

See, Georgie, that's what what's called diplomacy. Instead of saying that you are an Asshat for suggesting that ANY country should emulate the clusterfuck you created in Iraq, he politely declined your suggestion

[C_U_L8R]

1. That's a BIG smackdown !

Beautiful and well deserved.

Have the freepers started freaking out yet ???

[rodeodance]

15. HUGE>

[OKNancy]

2. Bush is just certifiable

Not only is his statement stupid, but as a political point it makes him look even more idiotic than usual.

[Benhurst]

3. Bush is such an IDIOT!

:rofl:

[grytpype]

11. He makes it pretty easy, doesn't he?

Yeah, it's pretty damn easy to get the better of ol' Duhbya. Because he's retarded.

[Tellurian]

4. I'd like to see Putin vs Condi..

Condi doesn't like a question she cannot condescend to..

[Freedom_from_Chains]

5. Putin always bitch slaps Bush around and poor George

just never seems to get it.

[Sonora Nora]

7. their dinner

Please check out this photo... doesn't * appear bombed & Putin look perturbed? Check out the long neck!

http://www.wral.com/apworldnews/9520370/detail.html

[Freedom_from_Chains]

8. Yeah, I have seen it in many pictures of the two,

you can clearly tell that Putin just despises Bush and understandable so. Bush's reference to Putin as Pooty-Poot a few years back was one of the most crass things I have ever seen a politician do. I don't know if he thought he was being cute or what but clearly Bush was showing what a complete dumb-ass he is.

Putin always looks to me like he'd give anything to have just 5 minutes alone with Georgie in a back alley.

[GCP]

46. Yeah, and as he's a black belt at karate or whatever

Bush wouldn't be comng out of tha alley afterward! :evilgrin:

[Demeter]

48. Wouldn't Anyone?

We could have a raffle--and use the proceeds to elect a REAL President!

[stevedeshazer]

12. Wow

[JuniperLea]

14. That picture says it all

Bush looks drunk and confused. Putin looks to be in total control, and keeping his eye on W's every move.

That dumbass is such an embarrassment.

[Buns_of_Fire]

44. "Keeping his eye on W's every move..."

Well, of course he is... Hey, that silverware is EXPENSIVE!

On edit: Chucklenuts also looks like he's about to let fly with a Texas-sized belch. Maybe Pootie-Poot is wary of being urped-on like Chucklenuts' daddy did to the Japanese PM. :shrug:

[Little Star]

54. Did they make him stay up past 9???

Either that or hes surely hung-over.

[leesa]

6. Iraq has a free press??? Isn't he being sued for killing the Al Jazeera

journalist by ordering the bombing of the "free press" building?

Putin's answer is great. Bush IS certifiable.

[texanshatingbush]

9. Iraq's "free press"?????

I share your astonishment. I thought the Iraqi press was bought and paid for by the Defense Department, given all the "news stories" created by their public relations flacks masquerading as Iraqi journalists. I wonder how many DoD PR-types are still writing "news stories" for release in the US? I guess a not-free press is something we have in common with Iraq. Is a not-free press part of Bush's "spreading democracy" package?

To be fair, though, I have noted lately that some of the MSM are beginning to ask the tough questions with a certain tenacity. Keep it up !!

[rodeodance]

17. its part of Bush's alternative reality.

[Barkley]

10. That's does it! I disown Bush... Hugo Chavez is now my President - nt.

[ginnyinWI]

13. He just doesn't get it.

That's simply hilarious. It shows what kind of a bubble he still lives in. He actually thinks that what he says either is true or he can make it true by saying it. He really does thinke he's a powerful, respected world leader.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Sadie5]

16. It doesn't take much

to make * look like the idiot he is. Putin knows that * is a idiot. He knew from their very first meeting when * called him Pooty Poot.

[Amonester]

21. Yeah, I imagine how much ALL of them would 'prefer' to WORK...

with a REAL US President like Al Gore, or John Kerry, for example, instead of being FORCED to appear in this idiotic murderous CLOWN's photo-ops!

[Julius Civitatus]

18. CNN's Ed Henry just made it look like Bush won this exchange

They just showed this exchange on CNN, presented by White House correspondent Ed Henry. I really, really hope Crooks & Liars taped it, because it was very revealing of the mindset of the American media.

What the excerpt above doesn't show is that Putin's quick jab drew a huge wave of laughter in the convention center. Both attendees and journalists covering the event were seen laughing out loud at Putin's clever retort.

Bush was left bumbling, embarrassed, and he replied to Putin: "Just wait, just wait." Bush, of course, was referring to the neocon fantasy of turning Iraq into a Republican model country. Right.

After showing the clip, CNN's Ed Henry immediately said: "Notice that he president said 'Just wait,' indicating to Putin that we are expecting a lot of progress in Iraq soon."

The way Ed Henry was trying to cover for Bush in this embarrassing exchange was petty and pathetic, but then another CNN anchor went even further.

A new CNN anchor called Tony Harris looked visibly upset, and replied to Ed Henry: "Nice. What a nice thing to say from our "friend" and ally. Very nice." He said it in a very angry tone, and emphasized the "friend" part with a hint of cynicism. You would expect this type of attitude from the clowns at Fox News' morning show "Fox and Friends," but certainly not from CNN, although nothing surprises me anymore.

So basically a world leader rips Bush a new one in front of the entire planet, which is embarrassing, while exposing the Bush charade of "democracy" in Iraq, and two CNN anchors trample over each other to make Bush look good, and complain about Putin allegiance.

That's all you need to know about CNN.

[Julius Civitatus]

45. Watch CNN's Ed Henry spin this in favor of Bush

Ed Henry tap-dances at the end of this broadcast making it sound as if Bush's lame "Just wait" comeback was actually the end of the debate, and the "tough jab" of this exchange. Embarrassing:

http://images1.americanprogress.org/il80web20037/ThinkProgress/2006/putinbush.320.240.mov

Unfortunately, the video stops short of the very embarrassing response by Tony Harris.

[go west young man]

47. They always have to smooth it over for American consumption.

Otherwise they wouldn't be doing their part when it comes to propogandizing the "war on terra."

[fishnfla]

49. True freedom of the press

The Russian press are roflmao at Putins clever jab, and ours are trying to spin it. What another joke

[Strelnikov_]

19. And With Vlad's Comments, All The Reporters Started Laughing And Clapping

Chimp was out of his protective bubble and spewing his uninformed belief of what is going on to an audience who don't feel the need to humor his ignorance.

I mean, implying that Russia should follow the Iraq model, what an embarrassment.

It just shows how out of touch he really is.

[Amonester]

25. It's because they didn't 'screen' the audience like Karl...

must have requested them too.

Maybe Herr Rummy and Deadeyed Cheneyourself don't dominate the world completely (yet).

[lovuian]

20. Baaawaaahaaa Thanks Putin Thanks for showing him a

hypocrite!!!

[tridim]

22. * is going to continue his fuckups if they keep sending him on the road

He doesn't understand how serious things have become in the world and he's still doing his mentally challenged, faux-cowboy schtick. He doesn't have the first clue how to address world problems.

[BayCityProgressive]

23. but but but

I thought Bush looked into Pooty Poot's soul!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

24. Rebuffed! Rebuked! Denied!

-Kevin Calabro

[rodeodance]

26. Bush backs away from spat with Putin (Reuters)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060715/pl_nm/group_bush_democracy_dc;_ylt=AppO.dz1Umc3EvSLOm3HByVZ.3QA;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--

Bush backs away from spat with Putin

By Caren Bohan 1 hour, 41 minutes ago

ST PETERSBURG, Russia (Reuters) -
President Bush backed away on Saturday from a public confrontation over Russia's democracy with President
Vladimir Putin, adhering to a pledge not to lecture the Kremlin leader.

At a joint news conference, the two made clear they discussed their differences privately on what critics say are declining civil liberties in Russia, and stepped gingerly around the issue in their public comments.

With Bush needing Russia's help on pressuring
Iran and
North Korea to forswear nuclear weapons, and with Middle East violence surging, democracy issues did not appear to play as dominating role in their talks as when they met in Slovakia last year.

Bush said it came up at their social dinner on Friday night.

"I talked about my desire to promote institutional change in parts of the world like
Iraq, where there is a free press and free religion, and I told him that a lot of people in our country, you know, would hope that Russia would do the same thing," Bush said.

[rodeodance]

27. Bush interjected: "Just wait."

....."I talked about my desire to promote institutional change in parts of the world like
Iraq, where there is a free press and free religion, and I told him that a lot of people in our country, you know, would hope that Russia would do the same thing," Bush said.

He quickly added: "I totally understand, however, that there will be a Russian-style democracy. I don't expect Russia to look like the United States. As Vladimir pointedly reminded me last night, 'We have a different history, different traditions."'

Putin pounced on the reference to Iraq. "We of course don't want to have a democracy like the one in Iraq, to be honest," he deadpanned, to laughter from Russian-speaking listeners.

Upon hearing the translation of Putin's remark, Bush interjected: "Just wait."

[IChing]

29. "Just Wait" until

?????????????????

Boy, he's quick with the comebacks, plans and answers isn't he?

ASSWIPE

[truth2power]

30. Bush always sounds like some pre-pubescent kid...

"Just wait." Huh huh...

And what the hell is he smoking? A free press and free religion in Iraq?

And PUTIN had to remind the Little General that Russia and Iraq have different traditions and history?? Georgie was a HISTORY major fercrissakes! :banghead:

[Gman]

32. Hey! Cut Bush some slack!

Those brain cells from college were burned up long ago! We can't expect him to remember things that are erased in bad sectors of his brain! The guy's a bonified and legitimate fucking idiot.

[Freedom_from_Chains]

35. Georgie was a HISTORY major fercrissakes

Oh please tell me that isn't true, I thought he majored in business or something. If he majored in history, which he obviously hasn't a clue about, we are more screwed than what I thought. And I didn't think one could every be more screwed than that.

[truth2power]

56. He has an MBA but I believe he majored in history as an undergrad.

Yeah...bizarre ain't it? :evilgrin:

[Demit]

31. I love when he "totally understands" or "fully understands" something

It's usually something self-evident. I cringe every time that he feels compelled to say it.

[blonndee]

40. Ew, me too. Just like how he insults foreign leaders

by lauding them for "understanding" something equally as self-evident. Or when he says "The American people need to understand." RETCH!

[speedoo]

34. What about the "democracy" here in the US?

Putin could have taken a swipe at dimson over an administration....

that owns the MSM.

that ignores the Geneva Conventions

that spies on its own citizens, illegally

that outs CIA agents and operations, just for revenge

etc.

[Amonester]

36. He took quite a swipe at the chimpfuhrer but there's no /sarcasm

icon in verbal exchanges (and the blivet has no clue anyway)...

"We of course don't want to have a democracy like the one in Iraq, to be honest," he deadpanned, to laughter from Russian-speaking listeners.

Yeah... The ignorant cowBoy really had no clue (again).

:banghead:

[Schema Thing]

37. This is satire, yes?

He didn't really say "just wait"?

[Stardust]

51. Booyah!

[lumpy]

28. Bush becomes flaccid

when he looks into Putin's eyes. In the face of mental power he is a weakling. I'd love to see him in the cross fire with someone like Chavez, he'd probably wilt like a flower. 'Fabulous'.

[DoYouEverWonder]

33. Putin could drink a tank of vodka

and still outwit DimSon.

[SpiralHawk]

38. Just like he backed away from the National Guard

and just like he and just like he backed away from doing anything at all on 9/11 (other than sitting on his preppy ass, and reading My Pet Goat).

[speedoo]

39. Just more proof he's a fucking coward.

Not once in his life has he ever displayed a millimeter of spine.

Poor excuse for a human being, and a blot of shame on the history of America.

[Stardust]

50. Is Bush's book really upsidedown or is this Photoshopped???

[IndianaGreen]

52. Is Bush holding that book upside down?

What a moron!

[Solly Mack]

41. Iraq rejects "Bush's Iraq democracy model"

just saying...

[goforit]

55. Ain't this the truth! As Iran runs away with the prize.

[outofbounds]

42. The picture looks like Putin is giving

a sobriety test. Notice Putin's left index finger and where slosh boy is looking. How embarrassing

[bling bling]

43. Bush walks freely around Russia, but has to sneak in/out of Iraq.

If Bush thinks Iraq is so great, why doesn't he visit more often, in the daylight, for more than a few hours, without sneaking in unannounced?! A real beacon of democracy, Iraq. Sounds like hell to me.

If he HAD to move, I bet everything Bush would choose Russia over Iraq.

He's so embarrassing and humiliating. Why would he say something like that?

[mshasta]

53. I cant believe Putin is not wanting the same democracy as we have in Iraq.

You know the bombs, the freedom fighters, the welcoming our troops with flowers, the destruction of infastructure. (IM BEING SARCASTIC)