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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 03:19 PM
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Israel says Hizbollah, Iran coordinated abduction
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert accused Hizbollah on Tuesday of coordinating its abduction of two Israeli soldiers last week with Iran, enabling Tehran to divert attention away from its nuclear programme.

http://mobile.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L18137186.htm
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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 03:25 PM
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1. Who are these fools...the world community cannot walk and chew gum
abduct 2 Israeli soldiers and the WORLD community FORGETS Iran has a nuclear program..yeacht sure Olmert...sure
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 03:26 PM
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2. Israel says....(more lies to follow)
Israel has about as much credibility as Baghdad Bob or W. Bush. They lie by force of habit.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 03:27 PM
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3. An attempt to connect Iran to this war
And give an excuse for the Bush admin to jump in and go after Iran. They are as transparent as a picture window.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 03:28 PM
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4. Israel says Hizbollah, Iran, Grays coordinated abduction.
Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert accused Hizbollah on Tuesday of coordinating its abduction of two Israeli soldiers last week with Iran and Grays, enabling Tehran and the planet Dreeb XI to divert attention away from its nuclear and antigravity programmes..
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 04:04 PM
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10. LMAO
It was the dastardly Grays!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 03:30 PM
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5. Israel is beginning to sound like Donald Rumsfeld
If Iran "did it" why is Israel bombing Beirut and not Tehran?
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 03:33 PM
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6. Ummm Elmer Fudd Olmert
Had israel not responded so agressively by bombing civilian targets, taking out their international airport, killing children, etc no one would have given a shit, we would have still been talking about Iran and NK today. Israel created the distraction now they are trying to pin it Iran, typical.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 03:45 PM
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7. If Isreal knows so much why don't they know where their soldiers
are?
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 03:57 PM
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8. but Dumbya is blaming Syria, either Olmert or Dumbya is off-script ....
probably President Stupid
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 04:04 PM
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9. Interesting, the same "talking points" re diversion of attention from
the nuclear programme is also showing up in posts here. It sure didn't take long to get the latest memo out. I will give the repubs credit, they really are good at getting their propaganda out in double quick time.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 04:07 PM
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11. Israel is run by neocons, and they are just like our neocons
Published on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 by the Inter Press Service

Energised Neo-Cons Say Israel's Fight is Washington's

by Jim Lobe


WASHINGTON - Seeing a major opportunity to regain influence lost as a result of setbacks in Iraq, prominent neo-conservatives are calling for unconditional U.S. support for Israel's military offensives in Gaza and Lebanon and "regime change" in Syria and Iran, as well as possible U.S. attacks on Tehran's nuclear facilities in retaliation for its support of Hezbollah.

In a Weekly Standard column entitled "Our War", editor William Kristol Sunday called Iran "the prime mover behind the terrorist groups who have started this war" which, he argued, should be considered part of "the global struggle against radical Islamism."

He complained that Washington recently has done a "poor job of standing up and weakening Syria and Iran" and called on President George W. Bush himself to fly directly from the "silly (Group of Eight) summit in St. Petersburg... to Jerusalem, the capital of a nation that stands with us, and is willing to fight with us, against our common enemies."

"This is our war, too," according to Kristol, who is also a founder and co-chairman of the recently lapsed Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0718-06.htm
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 04:12 PM
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13. I agree, the hardliners in Israel are mirror images of the neocons in
the US and our neocon wannabes in Canada. The talking points are circulated to the hardliners not only in the US and Israel but also to Canada and other countries that have hardliners that will parrot the propaganda.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:59 PM
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17. I don't think it's the 'pukes...
It's their media doing it...they got a lot more talking heads filling time down there than we do...essentially it's a cable news wiki...Israel provides the actors and then each little 'expert' adds his own little entry and the over the course of three or four hours switching between the various channels, you get a seamless narrative that manages to place the wealthiest most armed people on the planet as the helpless, but noble victim of impulsive savages.

The scary part of course is that Mighty Wurlitzer can be pointed at any country and places the drones never even heard of last week, become ominous spectre of doom, doing something threatening and as such should be killed and occupied..

It shouldn't surprise you...didn't you watch Fahreheit 9/11 -- that's typical of the liberal democrat...it's the Bush family in league with wealthy arabs that is making America 'look' bad and the REAL THREAT is Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or North Korea...the American Empire has NO shortage of folks they feel they should kill.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 08:25 PM
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19. I just find it interesting that the talking points show up, in almost the
identical phrasing in the media of every country who's government is supportive of bush and/or Israel. True, it isn't the repubs, per se, but someone is getting those talking points out in double quick time and to many places.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 08:50 PM
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20. Your right...
The telltale sign of most of this being propaganda especially on TV...is that even when they have a twenty minute roundtable on the subject...Israel's political motives are never brought up. Israel is seen as an integrated whole and a single mind.

Whereas if you notice on virtually any other subject--say the G8 conference--all commentary features nothing BUT the various political motives of the actors, whether it be Putin's political motives getting the once over in a Post editorial or even Harper's political 'optics' (or lack thereof) is bantered about in a Torstar editorial.

Israel is never placed into a political context. The fact that Olmert is an untested leader, head of a shaky coalition made up of the remnants of Likud is never considered worthy of political anaylsis...like it is with some commentary about Merkel and her thin-margined coalition.

It is even staggering here at DU where a hell of a lot of people make some very good coments about Bush's motives in, say the terror threat in Maimi (omg!), and most posters quite rightly will point out that Rove and the boys are gaming the polls to give the RePukes a bump on their cherished 'terror' platform. That's a honest anaylsis..probably right, might be wrong.

If you notice -- never with Israel. The big problem for media optics on this is that they made Sharon out as the Savior of Israel and a powerful leader and so much of the script revolved around his 'personal style' and 'leadership'...nobody in the west knows a damn thing about Olmert, whose government is about a old as Hamas's.

So the script is starting to look bad -- Israel is basically a rightwing militarist state full of racists, but most people probably still have the impression that Israel has a healthy political system where foes like Peres and Shamir had a definable political outlook that separated them. Now. Doesn't exist...it's an extremist racist society with a great deal of internal problems.
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patcox2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 04:10 PM
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12. Israel says Iran assasinated Kennedy, caused 1929 market crash.
yeah, sure.

Israel's paid agents, the neocons, bamboozled the morons Bush and Cheney into doing Israel's bidding by invading Iraq, now they're worried we won't go into Iran, so they are trying to force the issue.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 04:19 PM
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14. Israel says that Iran was behind space shuttle Challenger explosion
and that Iran sabotaged the New Orleans levies.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:44 PM
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15. Now if you can link Iran to the disappearance of Natalie Holloway,
you'll really have something.
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rastafan Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 07:45 PM
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16. Iran and "Second 9/11": Cheney's "Contingency Plan"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20060222&articleId=2032

"Second 9/11": Cheney's "Contingency Plan"

While the "threat" of Iran's alleged WMD is slated for debate at the UN Security Council, Vice President Dick Cheney is reported to have instructed USSTRATCOM to draw up a contingency plan "to be employed in response to another 9/11-type terrorist attack on the United States". This "contingency plan" to attack Iran uses the pretext of a "Second 9/11" which has not yet happened, to prepare for a major military operation against Iran.

The contingency plan, which is characterized by a military build up in anticipation of possible aerial strikes against Iran, is in a "state of readiness".

What is diabolical is that the justification to wage war on Iran rests on Iran's involvement in a terrorist attack on America, which has not yet occurred:

The plan includes a large-scale air assault on Iran employing both conventional and tactical nuclear weapons. Within Iran there are more than 450 major strategic targets, including numerous suspected nuclear-weapons-program development sites. Many of the targets are hardened or are deep underground and could not be taken out by conventional weapons, hence the nuclear option. As in the case of Iraq, the response is not conditional on Iran actually being involved in the act of terrorism directed against the United States. Several senior Air Force officers involved in the planning are reportedly appalled at the implications of what they are doing—that Iran is being set up for an unprovoked nuclear attack—but no one is prepared to damage his career by posing any objections. (Philip Giraldi, Attack on Iran: Pre-emptive Nuclear War , The American Conservative, 2 August 2005)

Are we to understand that US military planners are waiting in limbo for a Second 9/11, to launch a military operation directed against Iran, which is currently in a "state of readiness"?

Cheney's proposed "contingency plan" does not focus on preventing a Second 9/11. The Cheney plan is predicated on the presumption that Iran would be behind a Second 9/11 and that punitive bombings would immediately be activated, prior to the conduct of an investigation, much in the same way as the attacks on Afghanistan in October 2001, allegedly in retribution for the role of the Taliban government in support of the 9/11 terrorists. It is worth noting that the bombing and invasion of Afghanistan had been planned well in advance of 9/11. As Michael Keefer points out in an incisive review article:

"At a deeper level, it implies that “9/11-type terrorist attacks” are recognized in Cheney’s office and the Pentagon as appropriate means of legitimizing wars of aggression against any country selected for that treatment by the regime and its corporate propaganda-amplification system.... (Keefer, February 2006 )

(continued)
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-18-06 08:00 PM
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18. Maybe he should spend more time figuring out how to extract himself
from this mess and less time spinning tall tales.
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