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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:21 AM
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Gutknecht [Repub congressman] gives grim assessment [of Iraq]
http://www.mankatofreepress.com/local/local_story_200013136.html?keyword=secondarystory

Gutknecht gives grim assessment

By Mark Fischenich
The Free Press

— Congressman Gil Gutknecht found the situation in Iraq more bleak than he anticipated during a weekend visit to the war zone, and said a partial withdrawal of some American troops might be wise.

Gutknecht, a strong supporter of the war since it began in March of 2003, told reporters in a telephone conference call Tuesday that American forces appear to have no operational control of much of Baghdad.

“The condition there is worse than I expected,” he said. “... I have to be perfectly candid: Baghdad is a serious problem.”

...

Gutknecht was in Iraq from Saturday morning until late Sunday afternoon. His time in the country’s capital city was spent almost exclusively within the Green Zone, an area of central Baghdad that is heavily fortified and where all access is controlled by check-points.
“We learned it’s not safe to go anywhere outside of the Green Zone any part of the day,” he said.
The movements of Gutknecht and four other congressmen were carefully controlled by security forces worried about abduction attempts by insurgents, he said.
“They realize people like us are juicy targets.”
Gutknecht’s sobering report contrasts with many of his fellow conservative supporters of the war. The Republican National Committee sends out weekly e-mails to the media called “Iraq Facts” that paint a picture of steady progress toward stability and Iraqi self-governance. And conservative commentators have consistently said that the American people are being provided an overly dire picture of the Iraq war by the mainstream media.
“While a little bit of progress has been made, there’s an awful lot that needs to be done,” Gutknecht said.
Gutknecht was critical of some of the “spin” from Bush administration officials in the Pentagon and the State Department. He specifically pointed to past statements that a few hundred insurgents were causing the violence in the Iraq. Military officials say they’ve captured 10,000 even as the insurgency continues unabated.
“That’s a far cry from what we were told originally,” he said. “... All of the information we receive sometimes from the Pentagon and the State Department isn’t always true.”
The American troops, however, are performing heroically, he said.
“They’re doing a terrific job in enormously difficult circumstances.”
That doesn’t mean that more troops could win the war.
“What I think we need to do more is withdraw more Americans,” he said.
It’s up to Iraqis to fix Iraq, and they need to do it soon, according to Gutknecht.
“I think we’re at a very important tipping point, and the next six weeks is going to be critical,” he said, although he declined to elaborate on the dangers facing Iraq if the situation doesn’t improve by September. “... I don’t want to predict what will happen if things don’t get better.”
He did say that the patience of average Americans might begin to wear thin if improvements don’t come soon.
“Americans are going to start losing faith in this thing,” he said.



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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:24 AM
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1. No more smiles and ice cream cones at the Baghdad airport for these
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 11:29 AM by The_Casual_Observer
dumb guys? They have to be hit over the head with a sledge to get it don't they?

"the next six weeks is going to be critical," This is new, they always go for the 6 month thing.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:35 AM
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3. a sledge, perhaps... or maybe poll numbers?
most americans say "staying in iraq baaaad"
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:29 AM
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2. Yoo hoo, Gutknecht
The incursion into Iraq began to wear thin a while ago. The losing faith thing is growing rapidly.

On the other hand, at least he is telling the truth about the situation in Iraq. Stating that the Pentagon and State Department information isn't always true is damn ballsy. Kudos to Gutknecht.
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:13 PM
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10. edit...errror
Edited on Wed Jul-19-06 02:15 PM by Mandate My Ass
:blush:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:36 AM
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4. well, he finally gets it.
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Arger68 Donating Member (562 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 11:57 AM
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5. Gutknecht is my "representative"
and one of the biggest Bush ass-kissers in congress. I can only hope Tim Walz has a chance at booting him this fall.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 12:03 PM
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6. does this mean that we have finally turned that "corner"
the corner where all of the F*cksticks who though that this was "good" realize that it is horrible.

Somehow I doubt it, there are that 33% that will still believe in this, and will be able to claim the next elections with their 33% moral majority by stealing them.

Flash in the pan
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 03:29 PM
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12. He's in a tough campaign and he read the polls
WASHINGTON - Sixth-term Republican Rep. Gil Gutknecht, who faces a tougher-than-usual reelection climate and likely barbs over his decision to renege on a term-limit pledge, has girded himself by fattening his campaign bank account.

Gutknecht's campaign manager, Nels Pierson, said Monday that the congressman raised about $190,000 in the second quarter and will report to the Federal Election Commission a cash balance of more than $800,000 as of June 30.

That gives him a wide financial edge over his Democratic challenger, Tim Walz, a Mankato high school teacher and retired National Guardsman. Walz's campaign manager, Terry Greeley, said his campaign raised about $165,000 in the quarter and will report about $250,000 in cash.

But Greeley expressed confidence that Walz will have all the cash he needs to get his message out this fall, because television and radio advertising time is cheaper in the mostly rural First District, which stretches across southern and southwestern Minnesota.

http://www.startribune.com/587/story/531759.html
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Mandate My Ass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 01:33 PM
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7. well, congrats on waking up and smelling the coffee but...
It’s up to Iraqis to fix Iraq, and they need to do it soon, according to Gutknecht.

I think we owe them something other than best wishes. :eyes:
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 01:36 PM
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8. Cut and run!!! Surrender!!! Traitor!!!
I'm sure the right-wing nattering nabobs will be all over this guy today </sarc>
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:08 PM
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9. START losing faith??? Where the hell's he been?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 02:22 PM
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11. but like Walt Jones, will these dissenting voices on the right be heard by
the Corporate Media.
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