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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:46 PM
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Srifa was a bustling hillside village
Then yesterday the Israeli jets came

July 20, 2006
The Guardian

Aliyah, 30, lay on a life support machine in the Jabal Amal hospital in a coma. She was one of a handful of survivors who made it out of Srifa, a village in south-east Lebanon. The man treating her put her chances of survival at less than 20%. "She has severe injuries and has lost a lot of blood," he said.

Fatima Ali Ashma was more fortunate, but not much more. She lay on a hospital bed struggling to breathe.

The force of the blast which overturned the mini van she was fleeing in crushed her chest, damaging her lungs. She sustained severe injuries to her neck and arm.

Speaking slowly and with difficulty, she described what had happened to her. "In the morning we woke up to find that 10 people in the village had been killed. The authorities told us that if we could leave we should get out. So we got in the car and left. As we were leaving, they bombed the road in front of us." There were 10 people in the van with Fatima: all were wounded. "No ambulance could get through. Everyone who could has left Srifa, but the dead bodies are still in the houses."

The attack destroyed 15 houses, killed at least 17, and wounded at least 30. It happened on a day in which 63 people were killed in the bloodiest day of the Middle East conflict so far.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1824751,00.html
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:55 PM
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1. And again the news is from the foriegn press and most Americans
will never see this.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 10:33 PM
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5. on mike malloy it was mentioned that the New York Times
had Israeli dead but no Lebanese dead on the front page (not sure which day). somebody seemed to think this was worth bringing up (before somebody jumps my shit). :shrug:
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 09:58 PM
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2. God, please give me the strength....
to hold my tongue in order to stay on this website.

I wish I was young enough to take the fight to them.

I once stood ten feet away from Vo Nguyen Giap.

If I could get that close to Ohmert, ....
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 10:26 PM
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4. It's tough.....Ohmert is trying to play who has the bigger
d%#@k.....these innocent people are being targeted....maybe one out 50 are actually Hezbollah....and the US administration refuses to get involved.....

Lebanon was (I use the past tense) democratic nation....if it survives they will become radical against the US again.....all on assholes watch..

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 01:37 AM
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9. We want a ceasefire, not more bloodshed
but I think that war crimes trials are long overdue.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:38 AM
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12. Agreed -- a very long list it will be
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 05:50 AM by DELUSIONAL
In order to get over the horrible times we are enduring now --


The world needs to come together and agree on the basic principles of humanity -- and judge all those who have failed. . .

People were put to death following WW II for lessor offense against humanity then have been committed by those in positions of power -- in our most recent history. After WW II some of the worst offenders were dispatched by street mobs -- or they took their own lives.

It might be timely to review the Nuremberg Trials -- and the history of that era.

I believe that a British movie deals with this period in history -- about the last hangman -- who was called on for his skills to dispatch the huge number of convicted war criminals.

edit -- this Nuremberg case always reminds me of the right wing hate mongers (& Fox "news")

Julius Streicher (February 12, 1885 – October 16, 1946) was a prominent Nazi prior to and during World War II. He was the publisher of the Nazi Der Stürmer newspaper, which was to become a part of the Nazi propaganda machine. The newspaper was controversial even in Nazi circles because of its pornographic obsessions and sensationalism. His publishing firm released three anti-Semitic books for children, such as the 1938 Der Giftpilz ("The Poison Mushroom"), one of the most widespread pieces of propaganda, which purported to warn about insidious dangers Jews posed by using the metaphor of an attractive yet deadly mushroom. After the war, he was convicted of crimes against humanity and executed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_Streicher

* The Conclusions of the Nuremberg trials served to help draft:
o The Genocide Convention, 1948.
o The Universal Declaration of Human Rights, 1948.
o The Convention on the Abolition of the Statute of Limitations on War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity, 1968.
o The Geneva Convention on the Laws and Customs of War, 1949; its supplementary protocols, 1977.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_Trials

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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:30 PM
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18. I'm sure the Right Wing nuts would take your example....
... as precedent for prosecuting and executing NY Times editors and writers.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 01:02 PM
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20. more likely the hate radio hosts like RUSHlimpballs
or baby jesus -- hanniny --

The guys and gals who spew hate on a daily and hourly basis.

Or how about FOX news -- fair and balanced NOT.

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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 10:02 PM
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3. Yet another "military target" I see....
How much more....how many more?
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-19-06 10:44 PM
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6. Terribly sad, terribly tragic.
Olmert is insuring that Israel will never see peace.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 01:09 AM
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7. And Israeli leadership questions
the numbers of Lebanese civilians killed and wounded in their bombing campaign. This reminds me of the US bombings of Afghan villages.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 01:33 AM
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8. Disgusting to see Shimon Peres talk like Sean Hannity
The foreign press has been on top of this story from the beginning, as it was in Afghanistan and in Iraq. Robert Fisk lives in Beirut and he has been reporting the extent of the damage that Israel is inflicting on Lebanon and the large number of civilian casualties. And Israel speaks of an open-ended war with no time limits!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 03:48 AM
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10. For a people who suffered the Holocaust
they're callous disregard for other human life is beyond belief.
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 05:27 AM
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11. Bush Sanctioned Death In Iraq - He Has Sanctioned Death In Lebanon
Should anyone wonder about these things anymore.

Some days, believing in hell for the likes of Bush brings comfort.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 06:58 AM
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13. this just despicable
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 07:06 AM by leftchick
:cry:



<snip>

At the hospital in Tyre, 10 miles from Srifa, Dr Ahmad Mrouwe hung up the phone and put his head in his hands. He had just heard that his colleague, Said, had been killed in one of many Israeli strikes on southern Lebanon that day.

Said had braved the dangerous journey to the village of Aitaroun on the Lebanon-Israeli border to rescue his wife, mother, and two children, who were trapped in the thick of the fighting between Israeli forces and Hizbullah militants. The family had made it all the way to Horsh - 10 minutes from the hospital - when an Israeli missile blew their car apart.

In the hospital waiting room sat Ayas Jouman, whose wife Ayran and two daughters, Sanine and Alice, aged six and two, had been killed the previous day. Ayas had been talking with his wife only 15 minutes earlier; she told him she had just bought him a new shirt.

Dr Mrouwe was doing his best to direct his beleaguered staff. He said the death toll from Srifa may be even higher, perhaps 21, all buried underneath the rubble of their homes.



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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 07:14 AM
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14. Pictures from Lebanon
http://nyc.indymedia.org/en/2006/07/73089.html#

Isn't collective punishment of civilian populations illegal, not to mention immoral?

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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:56 AM
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15. "Doing Whatever Necessary"
This is NOT necessary!
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AFSCME girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 01:55 PM
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21. Wow - I so wish the MSM in this country
would publish these photos...the world needs to see these :cry:

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:27 AM
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16. This is horrible...
...and it needs to stop now!
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:46 AM
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17. Any one notice
that the Israel supporters haven't responded to this thread?



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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 12:33 PM
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19. Other priorities?
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