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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 07:48 PM
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Nasrallah: Kids killed in Nazerath are 'martyrs'

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1153291962326&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Nasrallah: Kids killed in Nazerath are 'martyrs'


Hizbullah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah said on Thursday night that the two Arab children who were killed by a Katyusha rocket in Nazareth on Wednesday were "martyrs for the Palestinian cause."

Nasralla offered his condolences to the family of the two brothers in an interview with Al-Jazeera television.


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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 07:50 PM
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1. Yup. Just like the Iraqi kids we've killed are "helping spread freedom."
Excuse me while I vomit.

Redstone
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:06 PM
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2. No they are just dead innocents, like those in Tyre, Beirut, etc.
They are martyrs to no cause, just the victims of fools.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:08 PM
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3. What a dick!
Sumbitch killed them, and then declares them martrys.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:08 PM
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4. Second that. nt
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:11 PM
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5. I'm shocked that he didn't just blame it
on the Jews. Must have been some pretty strong evidence to the contrary.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:16 PM
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7. Way to deflect attention
One problem, though, too young to enjoy those 72 virgins, right?

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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:16 PM
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6. Human Shields?
Several Israeli armaments factories and storage depots have been built close by Arab communities in the north of Israel, possibly in the hope that by locating them there Arab regimes will be deterred from attacking Israel’s enormous armory. In other words, the inhabitants of several of Israel’s Arab towns and villages have been turned into collective human shields -- protection for Israel’s war machine.

Before the strike close to Nazareth late on Sunday night, several Arab villages in the north had been hit by Hizbullah rockets trying to reach these factories. No one at the BBC saw the need to mention these attacks nor the fact that “mostly Muslim” villages had been hit. So why did the strike against Nazareth -- and its mistaken Christian status -- became part of the story for the BBC?

Because Israel wants to portray Hizbullah, and its leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, as a crazed Islamic militia, as fanatical Muslims who hate Jews and Christians with equal vehemence. This is all part of Israel’s claim that it is fighting George Bush’s “war on terror”. Predictably, the BBC obliged by regurgitating this piece of racist nonsense.

If anybody still doubts that Israel is shaping the news agenda of broadcasters like the BBC, here was as good as the proof.

CP

You can add the Jerusalem Post to the mix as they ONLY report on dead children, if Israel didn't do it ...like the huge number of dead children in Lebanon.

Are they martyrs for Israel?
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:23 PM
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8. Nope, random dead people killed by
hamasbulla is firing UNGUIDED munitions with a CEP in the thousands of meters.

They are random people who got killed. They just happened to be muslim. Hence the apology.

If they were jews this comment would not have been mad
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:30 PM
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9. Me and my shadow...
Where'd you go...? You missed a couple of posts ;-)
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:32 PM
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10. Fact sticks like stink on a..
Because of its high volume of fire and large area coverage, the BM-21 is well suited for use against troops in the open, for use in artillery preparations, and for delivery of chemical concentrations. One volley from a BM-21 battalion is 720 rounds. Because these weapons have a large circular area probable (CEP), they are not suited for attacks against point targets.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/bm-21.htm
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LaCrosseDem Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 08:35 PM
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11. exactly... katyushas are less accurate than PVC "potato guns"
These things are just deadly bottle rockets.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:08 PM
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12. LOL. Yep, "human shields".
The truth is we are all "human shields".
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:13 PM
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13. Like the 'settlements' are civilian forts of occupation ... n/t
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 09:18 PM
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14. Watch Mosaic TV
On LinkTV, they have a show called Mosaic. It's a video mix of the days news from the all over the middle east, Jordan, Syria, Egypt and others.

It seems that whenever any news story is about someone dying by violent means, they are "martyrs". I find it disgusting and crass, and I'm sure many see through the state/religion propaganda.

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:27 PM
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15. They were kids caught up in a war, and killed for being in the wrong place
At the wrong time. Just like the Canadian kids (and so many others) killed on Sunday by Israeli raids. There is no glory in any of these deaths.
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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16. CNN: Hezbollah leader apologizes for attack's child victims
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/20/nasrallah.interview/index.html

Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah apologized for an attack that killed two Israeli Arab children in northern Israel, saying the youngsters were "martyrs for Palestine."

In a Thursday interview with Arabic-language news network Al-Jazeera, Nasrallah accepted responsibility for the Wednesday attack, while conceding that an apology to the family was not sufficient.

"To the family that was hit in Nazareth -- on my behalf and my brothers', I apologize to this family," he said.

"Some events like that happen. At any event, those who were killed in Nazareth, we consider them martyrs for Palestine and martyrs for the nation. I pay my condolences to them."

CONTINUED AT LINK ABOVE...
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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17. what a disgusting fucker
why doesn't he go out and martyr himself for "the cause".
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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18. What a f**king humanitarian
Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll be martyred for his cause.
It never ceases to amaze me how it's mostly civilians that are the 'martyrs.'
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Bhaisahab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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20. Its a good PR move IMO
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 11:12 PM by paagal kutta
He beat the Israelis to the 'sorry for the damage to civilians' routine...
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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23. The Israelis haven't taken the hits the Lebanese have n/t
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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28. i thought what he said was sickening
all the crap about being martyrs.

Hezbollah doesn't give a shit about Israeli or Lebanese or any other kids who are being killed.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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32. You think Israel is more trustworthy?
Then why are they killing so many innocent young? The innocent young aren't political, just young...and the Israelis are killing them.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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33. i didn't say anything about Israel
Edited on Thu Jul-20-06 11:24 PM by JI7
this was about the Hezbollah asshole and his "apology" . i would be disgusted by that type of "apology" from anyone.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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36. It's better than the lack of apology by the Israelis
about the Lebanese innocents deaths, especially the kids. The internet has the pics of Lebanese infant and toddler's bodies carted off.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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40. it's not like their apology would mean anything just like
this Hezbollah guy's "apology". instead , i find it insulting.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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31. Yep.
Not defending him, but he's playing it like a flute. I'm a bit surprised CNN printed this, gotta give them credit.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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34. Even the Israelis admit they've slaughtered more innocents
Where are you coming from?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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37. Is there some part of my post you didn't understand? nt
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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41. I don't think it's a s good a PR move as you do because he's only
apologising because they're Israeli Arab Children. I doubt he would have shed one tear or took one second to apologise if they were Israeli Jewish children. (IMO)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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19. He may be disingenuous, but would Israel even
consider apologizing for all the mayhem they've wrought on innocents?

Ducking/covering...

:hide:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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21. True. The Lebanese innocents have been hit much harder
and Israel sticks with " that's too bad". Truly Godly.

Truly a Christian attitude.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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42. I don't think one would normally expect a "Christian attitude" from
Israel, being a JEWISH state.

Jews are not Christians. Remember?

I think a better choice of words would be "charitable" or "humanitarian". "Christian" just doesn't apply here.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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25. What?
Israel's already said it regrets slaughtering ten Lebanese innocents for every Israeli innocent? Isn't that enough?

Here. I'll join you. :hide: :hide:
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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27. it would be much better if Israel called the dead kids martyrs for their
cause. :eyes:
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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30. It certainly helps
with the Insanity Defense.

:shrug:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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38. Either way you look at it, and I don't agree with this guy's
(Islamic) sentiments, but I personally just want it to stop! I'm SICK of people killing people! and mean no disrespect to you.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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29. I saw a pic on the dead Lebanese children being carted off
we support a government who does that. Israel feeds off the U/S/ everybit as much as suckers on trees do.

We need to cut them off.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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35. That's probably the most obscene part of all
WE have the power to end it NOW

One phone call: "Hey, Omlet! What're ya doin? Stop this shit or we turn off the money. Meet cha at the negosherashuns."

:grr:

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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39. Yeah, the Israelis could call for a truce and cease fire
But W and the bushbots want the deaths of innocents to continue. Israel must reign supreme. Falwell and Robertson said so. So speaketh the GOP.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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22. Satan's just waiting
to cram pineapples up this murderer's ass for all eternity.

Don't worry. Olmert gets porcupines.

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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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24. Or so you say n/t
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:35 PM
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26. It's like the '69 Mets
"Ya Gotta Believe!"
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:37 PM
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44. And ditto for the war criminal Olmert, too, I hope.
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:36 PM
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43. "on behalf of my brothers" - Yeah right dumb ass, your brothers killed
those kids not you. What a sick f*ck.
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umtalal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:39 PM
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45. Ditto for Olmert, the real dick. Child killer from the get go.
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