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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:25 PM
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U.S. general: Insurgents planning 'all-out assault' on Baghdad
BAGHDAD - Bombings and shootings soared by 40 percent in the Baghdad area in the past week, the U.S. command said Thursday. An American general said extremists were preparing "an all-out assault" on the capital in a decisive battle for the future of Iraq.

Iraq's most influential Shiite cleric issued his strongest call yet for an end to Shiite-Sunni bloodletting, urging all Iraqis to wake up to the "danger threatening the future of the country" and stand "side-by-side against it."

Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, the chief military spokesman, said there had been an average of 34 attacks a day involving U.S. and Iraqi forces in and around the capital since Friday -- up sharply from the daily average of 24 registered between June 14 and July 13.

"The only way we're going to be successful in Baghdad is to get the weapons off the streets," Caldwell said. He said insurgents were streaming into the capital for "an all-out assault against the Baghdad area."

"Clearly the death squad elements, the terrorist elements, know that Baghdad is a must-win for them," he said. "Whoever wins the Baghdad area, whoever is able to bring peace and security to that area, is going to set the conditions to stabilize this country."

Star Tribune
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:27 PM
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1. So do something!
You're the goddamned US military for pete's sake...don't con us about how well-informed you are, just do something about it already.
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:31 PM
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6. They have been there for three years and still control zilch
What makes you think anything is different today than it was yesterday?
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:37 PM
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9. Then they should sh__ the f___ up
and acknowledge that they're squatters, just keeping an eye on the oilfields and soon-to-be-permanant bases.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 05:57 AM
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37. Maj. Gen. William Caldwell is a typical military ass clown
Putting his time in

Until he retires on a 5 figure a month pension and signs up to do "Color Commentary" on Faux News

LOL
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:27 AM
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40. and a job with a defense contractor
as most of them do. I wonder who krazy killer kimmitt will be working for?
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:57 AM
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42. Good point
kimmitts father and brother-- both retired military

have their snouts in the defense trough BIG TIME
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:02 PM
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16. my very thought exactly
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:29 PM
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2. Real good progress!
The insurgents are attacking the capital because they are JEALOUS of all the progress we are making and they want to stop it, see?
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:06 AM
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25. well that and their obligatory hatred of freedom of course. . .
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:29 PM
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3. I have been waiting for just such a front.
They could so easily bottle up our forces within the Green Zone.

Game over
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:30 PM
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4. Deja-vu all over again?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:31 PM
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Yeah, shit, call Kofi to make something happen!!!
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:31 PM
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5. Last time they moved the troops into Bagdad they went all over the country
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:47 PM
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12. huh?
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:25 PM
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17. I think he means that when the US troops
try to quell the insurgency by going out into the streets in force, the insurgents just scatter and then regroup.
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:27 PM
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19. gotcha, thanks nt
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:32 PM
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7. must, defend, bush's, half-billion dollar, embassy, to the last GI!
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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:32 AM
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31. $500 million embassy? Yeah, for the front porch...
I don't know why people are believing the figures for this embassy. $500 buys you one and a half baseball stadiums, not this immense compound.
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 10:26 PM
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47. oops - you are correct its closer to 1 billion
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:34 PM
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8. But...The Revolution Will Not Be Televised
"The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" is a poem and song by Gil Scott-Heron, which commented upon the political and social turmoil of late 1960s/early 1970s America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Revolution_Will_Not_Be_Televised
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:34 PM
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23. The revolution will be no re-run brothers;
The revolution will be live.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:38 PM
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10. Is General Caldwell talking about an Iraqi version of Tet Offensive?
If Baghdad is the new Saigon, which city will be Hue?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:57 PM
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15. I think the General is viewing the situation with alarm,
I don't think he had any intent to compare things with VietNam, that would get his ass in trouble. It appears to me that he "expressed himself in an unfortunate way".
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 03:07 AM
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36. Hue was taken and occupied by up to 14000 PAVN regulars
There is no force even coming close to that kind of training, supply, organization, discipline, or numbers capable of taking a city in Iraq. Get real.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:44 PM
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11. Insurgents already control Baghdad
He must mean insurgents are planning to attack the Green Zone.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:20 AM
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27. Bingo ... and ....
I wonder what's going to happen to that huge, new multi-million dollar embassy we seem to building right on schedule; that'll be the last holdout, it seems. Blechhh. :puke: :eyes:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:24 AM
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28. I imagine the embassy has a nice big landing pad on the roof
Just in case. We all know the photo.
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Theduckno2 Donating Member (905 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:47 PM
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13. Where is Mr. "I had other priorities."?
Last throes, what a load of cr*p.

BTW General, getting the weapons off the street may not be the best alternative. It would be better if we could get the insurgents to stop pointing them and then sqeezing the trigger.
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Oversea Visitor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 10:49 PM
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14. Bush going to stay till get booted out
Coming soon as sure as the sun rise. Maybe lots think cut and run make them looks like fools. But it sure beat getting booted out with a bloody nose.
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:27 PM
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18. Iraq Tet? n/t
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:30 PM
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20. Wait a minute! I thought Baghdad was like Houston!?!
That's what republicans keep telling me. It's just like all the big cities here in the US with the crime and all.

I'm sure they just need to start a neighborhood watch or something.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:32 PM
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21. That would be the epitaph of "Forward Together"
With the joint US-Iraqi "crackdown" in Baghdad a miserable failure, what happens next?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:32 PM
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22. the party is over.
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pokercat999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:29 AM
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34. The party has BEEN over for a while....now the
fat lady is singing or at least warming up her voice.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-20-06 11:47 PM
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24. Within a year the Green Zone will be overrun nt
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:53 AM
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33. I hope Bush is visiting when it happens
I'll love to see the look on his face when he finds himself surrounded by freedom and democracy loving Iraqis wanting to shove their purple fingers up his behind.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:43 AM
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35. Hope they get their chance to show him how free they really feel!
What a triumph in world history it was when they all got a chance to get their purple fingers, and dipsticks in the States inked their fingers purple, too. Ain't freedom grand?

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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:09 AM
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26. Does Rummy still do press briefings?
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 12:13 AM by SlavesandBulldozers
i killed my tv a while ago, and was wondering if Rummy still does his whole comic routine every week or so to report on all the progress made.
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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 12:49 AM
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29. Heard reported today that 15,000 Iraqis killed
just this year so far. 5000 (1/3)of that number in just the most recent momths of May and June. (Since this was on CNN, you may want to double that number......)
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:05 AM
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30. Insurgents planning 'all-out assault' on Baghdad. . . Shock and Awe?
How quickly they learn
And how willing we are to teach them
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:35 AM
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32. Neither side will be content




until the whole region is nothing but dust and rubble.




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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:05 AM
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38. But I thought that since we killed the Amazing Zarqawi
that Bagdad was suppose to become the land of milk and honey? What went wrong?

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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:24 AM
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39. this proves the US has to stay there
forever..... :(

<snip>

The crisis in Baghdad raises questions about the ability of Iraq's U.S.-trained police and army to cope with sectarian violence. That in turn casts doubt about the U.S. timetable for handing over security responsibility to the Iraqis in all 18 provinces by the end of next year.

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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:06 AM
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41. Nah. Just a handfull of dead enders
We will have victory in just a few weeks...a few months at the longest....

Herr Rumsfeld
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 07:58 AM
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43. A few remnants
LOL

sounds like they are talking about carpets
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:19 AM
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44. sounds like there is an Insurgent inflation there in Iraq
The grow rate of insurgent is outgrowing the US killing of it. The killing of it generates more insurgents.

Be prepared to stay there forever in this killing business until the big boss is tired.
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OutNow Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 09:11 AM
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45. Baghdad Green Zone is Arabic for Dien Bien Phu
It's amazing that the Bush administration still thinks that they are controlling events in Iraq. They don't control Iraq, they don't even control Baghdad. They still control the Green Zone. How much longer? I don't think the coming offensive is comparable to the Tet offensive in Vietnam. While it was horrific, the NLF was defeated in every city. Instead, I believe that the Iraqis are gearing up for their version of Dien Bien Phu. God help the U.S. troops. We have to get our soldiers out of there while we still can.

Bring the Troops Home Now
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:46 AM
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46. "extremists were preparing "an all-out assault"
More bullshit from the bullshit artists.

Like someone said on here already, "the rebels already control Baghdad".

This is nothing more than someone trying justify yet another reason for more ethnic cleansing.

More money for more weapons.

More rhetoric for a failed occupation.

the U.S.Army protects its green zone nation. Outside of it's walls, the other nation exists. The nation of reality. there is nothing about these talking heads that tell us of that reality.
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