'Sign Kyoto Protocol' Gorbachev says

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FORMER Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev says it is important that Australia and the United States sign up to the Kyoto Protocol.

Mr Gorbachev is in Brisbane to co-chair the global forum Earth Dialogues, which will feature leading international experts on the environment, economics and science over the next three days.

The Nobel laureate said he would be raising the issue of Kyoto at the summit, regardless of whether Prime Minister John Howard was in attendance or not.

"I think that all of us see how the climate is changing before our very eyes," Mr Gorbachev told reporters through an interpreter.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,19862340-1702,00.html

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1. And when a Russian is willing to say the environment is fucked,

well, we should listen.

Like the joke that wasn't really a joke before our illegal war in Iraq, "When Germany says not to go to war, you should listen".

[CanuckAmok]

3. it's funny how many politicians come out in support of...

...radical revisions to environmental policies once they've basically retired.

It makes me wonder what scary briefs they saw when in office, that for one reason or another they were unable to make public.

And, no, I don't mean Robb's tighty-whiteys when I say "scary briefs".

[katinmn]

5. Gorbachev founded Green Cross International decades ago

and has been working on environmental reform since before he left office.

He also won the 1990 Nobel Peace Prize for signing nuclear disarmament treaties with the U.S.

But most Americans think of him only as Ray-gun's side-kick during the break-up of the Soviet Union (when it was actually Gorbachev doing the leading).

[CanuckAmok]

8. Yeah, I remember him receiving the Nobel.

But everybody got a Nobel in 1990. Kim Basinger got three!

[katinmn]

9. Ha!

[Sven77]

2. Kyoto is not a solution to the problem

How is taxing the people more going to solve anything.

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4. Bwuhahahahahahahahaha!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Please, come by and play again.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

No, seriously, that was hilarious.

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[Sven77]

10. from Wiki - Kyoto Protocol

Most current economic analyses indicate that the Kyoto protocol is more costly than potential alternative policies. Many environmental economists advocate use of carbon tax or emission trading because most analyses suggest that they are considerably more economically efficient methods of emissions abatement. For this reason, some economists advocate the Kyoto protocol as proxy policy for achieving such an aim.

The answer is to go to sustainable alternative energy, everything else is just a smokescreen.

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11. I'm too tired to post all the laughing smilies,

but please pretend there are a few hundred here.

[katinmn]

6. Sven Sven, Sven...

Kyoto and taxes have no relationship.

[w4rma]

7. WTF? You are not making sense. (nt)