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5X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 01:57 PM
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Rice: Hezbollah acts ‘outrageous provocation’
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 01:59 PM by 5X
U.S. secretary of state plans weekend trip to Middle East, Roman summit

<http://msnbc.msn.com/id/13970342/>

WASHINGTON - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, heading for a weekend trip to the troubled Middle East, called Hezbollah acts an “outrageous provocation” and said she would work with allies in the region to help create conditions for "stability and lasting peace."

She ruled out a quick cease-fire as a “false promise” and defended her decision not to talk to officials from Hezbollah or Syria.

“Syria knows what it needs to do and Hezbollah is the source of the problem,” Rice said at the State Department as she outlined U.S. hopes for a diplomatic solution to the current crisis.

The fighting began last week after Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers, a move that Rice called an "outrageous provocation."

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Rice is obviously going to defuse the situation. NOT.

edit for spelling.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:02 PM
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1. With NO Personal Interpersonal Experience Behind Her
Rice went to pour coals on the oilfields of the Middle East.

If she'd ever had a semi-normal relationship with another human being, she would know not to do this--if she'd ever been in a position of parent-like responsibility, she would have "divorced" her "husband" and gotten a clue long ago.
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funnymanpants Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 10:59 PM
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19. And Isarel's kidnapping?
Israel kidnapped two people from the West Bank the day *before* an terrorist group kidnapped an Israeli soldier. Next, Irael kidnapped cabinet members of the Palestinan government.

Hizbollah then kidnapped two Israeli soldiers.

Irael has 10,000 Palestinian prisoners, most held without charges, a practice condemned by human rights group. Many of these prisoners were kidnapped.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:03 PM
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2. This woman
is supposed to be intelligent and gifted, but all I've seen is nothing more the some spinning robot that spews what ever it's fed.

I'm sure her parents are real proud of the warmongering hack that they brought into the world, perhaps it's better for them that they can't see that she turned into a monster!!!!
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:07 PM
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3. outrageous provocation + outrageous brutality from Israel
How come she's so blind?
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manic expression Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:09 PM
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4. How pathetic
She's wrong, and then some. Israel is guilty of aggression and worse.
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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:15 PM
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5. "stability and lasting peace." ? Again...
What happened to the roadmap?

When exactly will a prominent American of some stature start calling Bush on any of this? Not just the specacular failures in the ME, but a whole host of foreign policy and domestic failures...it seems in the US...last week never occurs and even the 'normal' pundits (even the ones that are suppose to be democrat) have no interest in simply issuing a 'report card' to this fool.

It really looks totalitarian down there...this guy hasn't been successful at a single fucking thing as President...name one that can't be argued effectively. Not a single thing.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:19 PM
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6. She is not a diplomat! Rice is a dishonest oil saleswoman, nothing more!
Sending her to the region will only inflame the conflict. OTOH, they could have sent Bush! :puke:
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:23 PM
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7. Just like Rice,,, Israel is Killing Kids and she blames the kids
:grr:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:27 PM
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8. Outrageous provocation followed by outrageous response.
Now Rice's language will just become another outrageous provocation.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:30 PM
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9. Exactly.
Outrageous provocation followed by outrageous response, sums it up nicely, and as you suggested Condi will merrily throw fuel on the flames.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 02:30 PM
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10. And Israel remaining to occupy Palestinian terroritories isn't?
:eyes:

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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 03:24 PM
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11. Condi, go fuck yourself...or maybe georgie will help...
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 03:29 PM
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12. "Outrageous provocation" was obviously the point of the exercise
What they were hoping for was an outrageous response, and Israel has provided it in spades.

Didn't ANYONE in our government go to the 'insurgency 101' classes?

:eyes:

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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 04:09 PM
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13. How does Hezbollah agression lead to an invasion of GAZA...GAZA is where
Edited on Fri Jul-21-06 04:10 PM by Supersedeas
this thing started!!!!! Why are members of the Fatah leadership kidnapped if Hezbollah is the ROOT of the problem????
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 04:58 PM
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14. Dumb bitch was told by the Israelis a YEAR ago that they
were ready to go to war -- Israel has been planning to reoccupy Lebonon.

And she knows that the REASON is water -- unless she is really just a stupid, mindless bimbo.

Israel needs Lebanon's water -- that's why Lebanon's infastructure is being destroyed -- Israel wants to drive Lebanon back to the dark ages or force them as refugees to Syria.



10 September, 2002, 17:39 GMT 18:39 UK
Israel warns of war over water

Israel once controlled the River Hasbani
An alleged Lebanese scheme to divert water from a river feeding Israel's largest reservoir could provoke a war, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has warned.

Israeli army radio quoted the prime minister as saying on Tuesday that the issue constituted a "casus belli", or "grounds for war".

He was addressing senior military and civilian officials after a cabinet meeting.

Lebanon opened a pumping-station on the River Hasbani in the spring of 2001 to irrigate a drought-stricken village but denies that it plans to dam the river.

The river supplies between 20 and 25% of the water flowing into the Sea of Galilee, an official at Israel's Ministry of Agriculture was quoted as saying by the French news agency AFP.

It rises in Lebanon and flows for about 50 kilometres (30 miles) through its territory before joining the River Jordan and emptying into the Sea of Galilee.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 05:44 PM
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15. Good post - like the "settlements" suck up the water from the
Palestinians' land ... like country clubs in the middle of the desert.
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AnOhioan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 08:32 PM
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18. Great find....I always suspected that the actions of Israel...
had less to do with the soldiers capture and more with some "other" reasoning. Water is very high on that least.

Water wars have been predicted for some time now. Fits right in with the chimps world view.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 12:59 AM
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22. So much for Israel being Godly
Surprise, surprise. They are as mercenary as W and the bushbots.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:15 PM
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16. i've yet to see ANY corporate media mention the palestinians who were
abducted PRIOR to the israeli soldiers. none. the media, as usual, is happily following the bush-line.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 06:52 PM
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17. The first thing a top notch diplomat does
is to take sides.... NOT. No way to win friends and influence people. Understanding and promoting calm reflection goes a long way in some instances.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:44 PM
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20. Bolton and Rice ....the 'no-diplomacy' diplomats. Ugh.
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-21-06 11:52 PM
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21. Apart from the fact that she's plain wrong,
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 12:01 AM by Matilda
why it started is now less important than where this will lead.

Short-term - destabilisation of yet another ME country, and the hunger
and disease that always follow such devastation.

Long-term - further terrorist attacks on western countries.

And they can forget about Iran pulling back from its nuclear ambitions.

Ahmadinejad may be barking mad, but in his shoes, I'd be pulling out all
stops to go nuclear.

Edit to add: Like her master, Condi has no idea of how to behave in
the international political arena. For all his faults, I don't think
Colin Powell would have made this mistake.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 01:02 AM
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23. Condi's not in the W administration for her abilities or skills n/t
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