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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:18 PM
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Outcry as border guards seize British 'dirty bomb' lorry heading for Iran
Border guards seized a British lorry on its way to make a delivery to the Iranian military - after discovering it was packed with radioactive material that could be used to build a dirty bomb.

The lorry set off from Kent on its way to Tehran but was stopped by officials at a checkpoint on Bulgaria's northernborder with Romania after a scanner indicated radiation levels 200 times above normal.

The lorry was impounded and the Bulgarian Nuclear Regulatory Agency (NPA) was called out.

On board they found ten lead-lined boxes addressed to the Iranian Ministry of Defence. Inside each box was a soil-testing device, containing highly dangerous quantities of radioactive caesium 137 and americium-beryllium.

Yellow cake! Yellow cake!

Daily Mail
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:22 PM
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1. Sounds Like A Plant By The Bush Administration To Justify
His next war.

I trust nothing these days except what I can see and here myself.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:28 PM
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6. My thoughts exactly...
Fuck you Blair, Bush, CHeney and your whole lying murderous group...
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JesterCS Donating Member (627 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:23 PM
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2. well thats not suspicious
not at all ...... :sarcasm:
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:23 PM
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3. What the FUCK is going on? nt
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:24 PM
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4. My guess is this is mere stupidity.
Iran has no need to go to the UK for materials to make a dirty bomb.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:26 PM
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5. Set-up
OBVIOUSLY! x(
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:30 PM
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7. wasn't this scenario in a movie/tv show recently?? YES IT WAS!
some show about a terrorist dirty bomb attack on London. I forget the name, but I think it was on PBS last year.

the radioactivity came from debris from Russia/Soviet Union. the stuff was trucked across europe into britain. the driver of the
truck died from radiation. this was all learned and the plot discovered too late to stop the blast which poisoned central london.

Msongs
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:31 PM
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8. There was a similar story about a cab and nuclear material in Turkey
that was supposedly bound for Iraq just prior to the IWR vote. There were a lot of threads in DU at the time. The story collapsed when it was found that the containers did not have nuclear material.

They are following the same script again!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:32 PM
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:34 PM
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10. sometimes soil-testing equipment is just soil-testing equipment ...
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 06:40 PM by anotherdrew
any experts on this type of equipment?

soil-testing equipment in the news...
from http://www.ksco.com/dspNR.cfm?nrid=5734 ...
Monday, April 03, 2006 2:35 PM --- A HAZMAT TEAM WAS SENT TO THE AREA OF AMIGO'S MARKET IN CHUALAR ON SUNDAY, AFTER A CASE MARKED RADIOACTIVE WAS FOUND. THE ABANDONED CASE WAS ABOUT THE SIZE OF A MEDIUM SIZED ICE CHEST AND YELLOW IN COLOR. THE DEVICE WAS DISCOVERED ON THE SIDEWALK NEAR THE MARKET AROUND NOON. THE HAZ MAT PERSONNEL (WEARING PROTECTIVE GEAR) EXAMINED THE 3 PEOPLE WHO HAD POTENTIAL EXPOSURE TO THE CASE, BUT NONE WERE FOUND TO HAVE ANY SIGNS OF CONTAMINATION. THE DEVICE WAS FOUND TO HAVE BEEN STOLEN FROM A LOCAL BUSINESS AND WAS USED FOR SOIL TESTING. ALTHOUGH THE DEVICE DOES CONTAIN RADIOACTIVE MATERIAL, IT WAS DETERMINED THERE WAS NO THREAT TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
===
from 2003...
Even Small Radiation Sources Get Scrutiny

CHANTILLY, Va. (AP) - It looks like any other piece of construction
equipment.

But when Alexis Burton lifts a 60-pound soil-testing gauge from the
back of her Jeep Cherokee, she's knows it's anything but that.

Inside the gauge, which appears strangely like a small carpet
sweeper, two steel-encased capsules contain small amounts of highly
radioactive Cesium-137 and Americium-241.

What worries some is that in the hands of terrorists, the radioactive
material - imbedded in a device that has been a staple of the
construction and road-building industries for decades - could be used
to make a so-called dirty bomb.

That dozens of gauges keep getting stolen from sites across the
country only heightens the fear, officials say.


<snip>

Every year about 50 gauges - ``practically one a week'' - are
reported stolen, and many are never recovered, said Lydia Chang, an
NRC official who has been working on the new requirements. They were
approved last month by commission members and are expected to be in
place later this year.


NRC officials emphasize there is no evidence that any of the thefts
are in any way connected. They also caution that the amount of
radioactive material in each device is so small that it would take
hundreds of them to produce enough Cesium-137 or Americium-241 to be
useful in a dirty bomb, which uses conventional explosives to spread
radiation.

Nevertheless, the thefts are worrisome and ``it is time the NRC took
action on this,'' said NRC Commissioner Jeffrey Merrifield. The
radioactive devices have been a concern for years because many of
them end up in landfills or are just discarded beside a road.

The NRC said their safekeeping has become even more urgent since the
Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and awareness that al-Qaida operatives
have discussed the possibility of detonating a radioactive device.

The new government regulations require anyone using nuclear gauges to
have two independent physical controls, such as separate locks, to
secure the devices when they are not under surveillance. Some states
already require even more stringent controls.

For example, the NRC staff dismissed as too costly a requirement in
Rhode Island that restricts how far from a company's home base the
gauges may be used. The agency estimated the new rules would add $200
to the lifetime cost of a gauge, which typically costs about $5,000
to purchase.

Murphy said that ECS, a nationwide engineering consulting firm,
already meets the new NRC requirements and exceeds them in some
cases. The room where the gauges are kept is locked. Each device is
locked in its own container which, in turn, is chained to a wooden
bench. The room is monitored by camera at all times.

But all those precautions didn't prevent one of ECS' gauges from
being stolen last April when thieves broke into a trailer at a
construction site in Bethesda, Md. The gauge has yet to be found,
said Murphy, adding that it was under double lock when it was taken
with other tools.

Last year, a nuclear gauge owned by another engineering firm, Chicago-
based Professional Service Industries, disappeared from a
construction site near Columbia, Md., only to turn up a month later
at a pawn shop. The owner noticed the radiation-warning decal on its
surface and called police. The radioactive material, secured inside
the device and shielded from the environment, was not compromised,
officials said.

While there are other technologies for measuring soil moisture and
density, ``there is nothing that has the same accuracy and
precision'' as the nuclear gauges, nor speed in getting the job done,
said Stephen Browne, an executive at Troxler Labs, one of the leading
manufacturers of the devices.

Nuclear terrorism experts say it is unlikely the gauges would be of
much good to terrorists given the small amount of nuclear material,
generally less than one curie and in many cases far less.

``Radioactive sources in this application generally pose minor
security risks,'' writes Charles Ferguson of the Center for
Nonproliferation Studies at the Monterey Institute.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:35 PM
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11. Sounds Like They Ordered 10 Of These
Guess Farshad the inspector will be counting roller passes for a while longer.

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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:44 PM
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12. caesium 137 is used in soil testing devices (hydrology)
americium is found in all smoke detectors. Americium-beryllium i used as a neutron source used to start nuclear reactors.

sounds more to me that it was going to be used in the Iranian buclear program than to make a dirty bomb.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:50 PM
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13. 200 times above normal might not amount to much
Edited on Sat Jul-22-06 06:57 PM by daleo
Normal is pretty low levels of radiation, and such measures aren't generally linear. A little research is probably in order.

Here are some facts:

"At sea-level, the average radiation level is approximately 0.03
microsieverts per hour. As the altitude increases, the radiation
exposure increases exponentially. Mexico City, 2240 m above sea-level,
is exposed to about 0.09 microsieverts per hour; La Paz (in Boliva,
South America) - the highest city in the world - has radiation of
about 0.23 microsieverts per hour."

So, 100 times .03 (sea level) = .30, which is slightly more than La Paz. Therefore 200 times normal is not much, and certainly not enough to make a dirty bomb.

http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=550889
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:53 PM
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14. Most likely a dirty bomb set to go off inside Iran
n/t.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 06:57 PM
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15. Only 200 times above normal.
That's no big deal compared with what David Hahn achieved in his backyard shed at the age of 17 in Detroit :

Although his home-made reactor never achieved criticality, it ended up emitting toxic levels of radioactivity, around 1000 times normal background radiation. Alarmed, Hahn began to dismantle his experiments, but a chance encounter with police led to the discovery of his activities, which triggered a Federal Radiological Emergency involving the FBI and Nuclear Regulatory Commission. The Environmental Protection Agency, having designated Hahn's mother's property as a Superfund hazardous materials cleanup site, dismantled the shed and contents and buried it as low-level radioactive waste in Utah. Hahn refused medical evaluation for radiation exposure.

see : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hahn
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 11:55 PM
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26. I read about him.
Very unusual kid.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:19 PM
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16. In Other Words, Mr. Mildred, Another Exercise In Hyperventilation
These are perfectly ordinary items of scientific commerce in routine channels of trade, available over the counter to any agricultural ministry or university anywhere in the world for cash or easy credit terms. The amount is not signifigant, and the purpose is certainly the normal use of the devices. If Iran desired to make such a crude implement, it has its own facilities that could be turned to the purpose with none the wiser.

In short, this is the sort of thing one steps carefully to avoid in a pasture full of cows....
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:56 PM
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17. says material could be used to make a dirty bomb (I have no idea if so).


A leading British expert last night said the radioactive material could easily be removed and used to construct a dirty bomb.

Dr Frank Barnaby from the Oxford Research Group, said: "You would need a few of these devices to harvest sufficient material for a dirty bomb. Americium-beryllium is an extremely effective element for the construction of a dirty bomb as it has a very long half-life, but I would be amazed to find it out on the street.

"I don't know how you would come by it as it is mainly found in spent reactor-fuel elements and is not at all easy to get hold of. I find it very hard to believe it is so easily available in this device."

Senior Labour MP Andrew MacKinlay called for the Government to tighten up export controls to prevent the Iranian military getting its hands on nuclear material.

He said: "The Prime Minister has accused the Iranian Government of sponsoring international terrorism, yet his officials are doing nothing to prevent radioactive material which has an obvious dual use being sold to their military."
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:28 PM
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22. It Could Be, Sir
So could a ship-load of smoke-detectors be, or the instrument panels from a couple of dozen airliners, or the equipment of a decent hosptial's nuclear medicine suite. There is absolutely nothing special about this, or anything of importance in it, save that is being the occassion for some rousing cries of "Be very, very scared, people!: by some who think this will serve their interests.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 08:57 PM
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18. Yessir. Sort of funny, I thought.
I believe we were discussing that today.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:31 PM
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23. Indeed, Sir
What really angers me about this sort of thing is that is conciously aimed at taking advantage of people do not know much. That is just flat wrong to do.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:36 PM
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24. Yes, tabloid fear mongering. Not even very good at it. nt
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:06 PM
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19. "Yo, Tony! next time I wan't 'em "found" at the Iran border" n/t
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:17 PM
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20. Our FedEx diver had her "radioactive" signs on her truck yesterday.
She said they told her to keep the containers (medical equipment apparently) near the back of the truck so it wasn't close to her while she was driving!

She said she was probably through having kids anyway.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:28 PM
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21. 'dirty bomb' my foot
a 'dirty bomb' would be little more than an expensive nuisance.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-22-06 09:48 PM
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25. This is unfreakingbelievable how did this get out of
England...
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-23-06 06:34 AM
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27. There's a huge black market for radiological materials. This isn't
Edited on Sun Jul-23-06 06:35 AM by leveymg
related.

If one wants to build these awful things, nuclear reactor waste or medical radiological materials are readily available on international black markets. So is plastic explosive.

Iran has its own domestic sources for such things, anyway.

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