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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:40 AM
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WP: For One (anonymous) Senate Candidate, R Is Scarlet Letter (amazing!)
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 12:53 AM by DeepModem Mom
For One Senate Candidate, the 'R' Is a 'Scarlet Letter'
By Dana Milbank
Tuesday, July 25, 2006; Page A02


A GOP Senate candidate expressed dissent, loudly if anonymously, with the White House, pointing to President Bush's post-Sept. 11 pose with a firefighter and his post-Katrina flyovers as signs of a "disconnect."
(By Doug Mills -- Associated Press)

....The candidate (a Republican in a competitive Senatorial race) gave the luncheon briefing (Monday) to nine reporters from newspapers, magazines and networks under the condition that he be identified only as a GOP Senate candidate....(H)is willingness to speak so critically, if anonymously, about the party he will represent on Election Day points to a growing sense among Republicans that if they are to retain their majorities in Congress, they may have to throw the president under the train in all but the safest, reddest states.

It's not an ideological matter. Even as he berated the president, the candidate allowed that he opposes a pullout from Iraq, agrees with Bush's veto of human embryonic stem cell research, and supports constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage and flag burning....

***

The source of the candidate's anger -- and his anxiety -- is the Iraq war, which he called "the single thread that is weaving through every issue," including high gas prices and the violence in Lebanon. "People want an honest assessment from the administration, and they want to hear the administration admit we thought this, and it didn't happen that way, and -- guess what -- it didn't work, so we're going to try a Plan B."...

***

"In 2001, we were attacked and the president is on the ground, on a mound with his arm around the fireman, symbol of America," he said, between bites of hanger steak and risotto. "In Katrina, the president is at 30,000 feet in an airplane looking down at people dying, living on a bridge. And that disconnect, I think, sums up, for me at least, the frustration that Americans feel."

The response to Katrina was "a monumental failure," he continued. "We became so powerful in our ivory towers, in our gated communities. We forgot that there are poor people." The detachment remained after the storm, he said. "I could see that they weren't getting it, they weren't necessarily clued in. . . . For me, the seminal moment was the (Dubai) port decision."...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/24/AR2006072400953.html
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:44 AM
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1. i'm lovin' it! woohoo! 8^D
see that smile? that's me! 8^D
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:45 AM
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2. Who could it be?
Which Republicans are in tight races? There's Chafee (RI), DeWine (OH), Talent (MO), Santorum (PA), Burns (MT) and Allen (VA). It could also be a non-incumbent - McGavick (WA), Kennedy (MN), Corker (TN).

Too conservative to be Chafee. Can't be Santorum, Allen, or Burns. So I'm thinking it's either DeWine, Talent, or one of the three challengers. Maybe McGavick.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:17 AM
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5. Here's a picture of him, from the press conference.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:33 AM
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10. GONG!
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:40 AM
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31. Looks like Santorum ;) n/t
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:42 AM
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20. It's not No-Talent - he'll keep his arms wrapped around Dimson
on his way to the bottom of the ocean.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:36 AM
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24. Who could it be?
Joe Lieberman, of course.

Gah! You people just don't think sometimes! :)
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:09 PM
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49. I think it's Mark Kennedy
He's been trying to separate himself from * from the time he announced his candidacy for US Senate. He's already taken the picture of him and * off his website. He's very conservative, and the MN senate race is the hot one, IMO, because of the open seat being vacated by Dayton (D).
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:41 PM
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54. i still think it's Chafee
I've met him a couple of times when he wasn't wearing his 'senator' hat and spoke off-the-record....He still comes from an old-school, New England liberal GOP background and he hates bush/inhofe for their environmental policies more than anything...He ALSO has a very close relationship with the Providence Journal and has given closed-door, off-the-record, no-BS interviews before
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:03 PM
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57. I like Chafee, but he should've switched parties
As it is we have no choice but to go for every competitive seat. I'm sure even the Senate Democrats would love to have him if he were willing to switch.

BTW, care to mention some of what he has said off-the-record?
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:26 PM
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58. check PM n/t
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:48 AM
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3. The implication is that it is an incumbant.
It actually might be Santorum.He plays up his Catholicism and the Poe is anti war. And he sure is conservative enough!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:52 AM
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4. I just edited, removing that the candidate is an incumbent. It's not clear
if he is an incumbent or not. I assumed at first he was, since the lunch was on Capitol Hill.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:30 AM
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6. The article itself implies the fact without saying it.
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Sadie5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:07 AM
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7. This might be a Nixonian moment
One by one the GOP turned on Nixon to save their own skins. It too was a slow process. We can only hope.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 03:53 AM
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8. Don't be fooled
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 03:56 AM by depakid
Republicans will always be Republicans-

and the Washington Post- until Donald "boy" Graham and his pack of jackals are gone and replaced with people of some integrity will always be the Washington Post.

They'll say anything.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:46 AM
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9. I agree. They'll say anything. Never trust a republican. n/t
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:29 AM
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39. BUT
Kennedy (R-MN) is currently MN's 6th district rep in the house.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:11 PM
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50. Again, that makes me think it's Kennedy
He's the CD-6 representative from MN, so he would be in DC.
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:12 PM
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51. Does he wear cufflinks?
Not that many men do.
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:15 PM
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52. I wouldn't put it past him.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:41 AM
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12. I'm also thinking Santorum.
Let's get the clues together:

Repug, probably incumbent.
Up for re-election.
Losing big to the Dem challenger (or he wouldn't be talking like this).
Pro-life, anti-science, anti-gay.
Cufflinks match the tie.
Eats risotto, doesn't eat egg yolks.
Too wuss to go on the record.

Sounds like Santorum to me.

And I think Santorum has said in the past he wouldn't want Bush campaigning for him.
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Julius Civitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:23 AM
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22. Santorum: too much of a wuss to go on the record
I agree. I think it's clear it's that asshole.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:24 AM
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28. what about arnold spector?
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:47 AM
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35. Arlen
And he's not up for re-election until 2010
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:59 AM
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44. er....m yeah him too :D...my bad
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 05:34 AM
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11. He doesn't have the balls to own up to his opinion. I can't vote for him
That's bullshit that he won't identify himself. It's a ploy to try to distance the Repugs from the Most Hated Man in America.



Liberal bumper stickers
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 06:41 AM
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13. Maybe Most Hated Man in the WORLD? Hmm?
I'd bet there's more hate around the world for Preznint Chuckles than for Osama, Hussein, etc. Makes ya proud.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:10 AM
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14. This senator should show some real courage.
Drop the anonymous part and step right up to the microphone. The future of this country is a hell of a lot more important than the future of his party.
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JPZenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:13 AM
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15. Too blunt to be an incumbent
I think the wording is too blunt to be an incumbent. In particular, it is too logical to be Santorum. He didn't bring "man on dog" sex or kissing fetuses into the conversation.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:13 AM
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16. I'm saying Hagel...
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:54 AM
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26. Hagel's not running this year...he comes up in 08
Santorum seems like a good guess. Trying to get some press sympathy. It would narrow things down if we knew what media were there...
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:11 PM
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45. Yes, but Hagel's running in 08 for POTUS, IMO.
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:28 AM
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17. In Virginia, The GOP Candidate For Governor, George Allen ...
does not mention his party in TV ads being aired in Winchester.
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:55 AM
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33. Allen is too dumb for this interview
He's just like *. He can only recite talking points ad nauseum. A thoughtful response? He can't spell that.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:49 PM
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56. uhh,Allen is candidate for Senate, not Governor
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:24 PM
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63. Thank You. I Stand Corrected. I Meant To Say Senate.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:31 AM
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18. OR--THe GOP Could Impeach and Convict Bush and Co
of multiple crimes against the State, and become legends in their own time, heroes of the nation, and REALLY make the Democrats look bad!


Nah, it will never happen. Too much fear of blowback, probably justified.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:40 AM
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19. at lest this was not on the front page!-(as news).
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:44 AM
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21. dumb@$$ coward. if the Iraq war were "popular" he'd be all for it.
Since he's a candidate he WILL have to reveal his identity, otherwise how could anyone vote for him. DUH. I'm sure he didn't have any problem kissing *'s butt the several times the budget for the Iraq War came up for a vote, or any of *'s other failures--if he's so aggrieved about the Katrina response, and about * "on the ground with his arm around a fireman," why didn't he speak up then? Because he is a cowardly little putz who doesn't even have the guts to reveal his identity. Here is a person with no "personal barometer" of right and wrong. He's not against the war because people are dying needlessly and incomprehensible suffering is being unnecessarily inflicted on millions of humans--only because it is unpopular with the voters.

Will you now, "Senator X," spearhead the impeachment drive?

major yawn.
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samfishX Donating Member (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:32 AM
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23. I'm guess it's
DeWine.
After all, Santorum's race is hardly what you could call competitive at this point. He's down by what?- 30 points or so?
Mike Dewine fits, though. The Ohio race is mighty competitive and he's shown a willingness in the past to come out against his own party...albeit ratherlightly.

It could also be Conrad Burns...but he seems like he's a bit to loyal to the cause, to me.
...although that could be what prompted him to take such a cowardly move.

Republicans- party before country. This interview seems to prove that more than ever, IMO.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:41 AM
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25. They emphasized Senate "candidate", I am guessing not a sitting Senator.
A Senate candidate from a Northeast state? Say, New Jersey? Maryland?
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PaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:31 AM
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29. I think it's an incumbent............
Frist popping in is a strong indication.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:35 PM
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67. Nope, it is Steele of Maryland. It was in the WP this morning
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 03:50 PM
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68. We need a scarlet R campaign for Steele........
Now that we know that Steele is the "Scarlet R" candidate, Maryland Democrats ought to mount a scarlet R campaign. We could have a bunch of scarlet R badges made up and show up at Steele events wearing them. Get some big scarlet Rs made up and stick them on his campaign signs around the state, etc. Mail post cards to his campaign with a big scarlet R next Steele's name. You get the idea.
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:09 AM
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27. There is too much talk about what"s good for the different parties. How
Edited on Tue Jul-25-06 09:12 AM by wake.up.america
talking about what is good for the the average citizen?

People running for office should get it into people"s heads that the future of America is at stake.

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eggplant Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:34 AM
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30. Just wait to see who gets bitch slapped
Just because we don't know who it was doesn't mean the White House doesn't know. Watch and wait to see who publicly falls in line.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:46 AM
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32. We can assume Frist knows. The article says...
he was also at the restaurant, and came by the table.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:36 AM
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34. "Forgot" there were poor people? FORGOT??????
"We became so powerful in our ivory towers, in our gated communities. We forgot that there are poor people."

There's no "forgot" going on. They simply don't CARE about poor people. Their attitude toward them is: You're poor? Tough shit. Must be because you're lazy, or not one of God's favorites.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:53 AM
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36. Seriously, man
that's the sentence that stood out for me too.

What a disgusting load of shit. I don't care if this Senator really thinks Bush is a chump or is just covering his ass, but this is just another elitist load of shit IMO. Is that his attempt to seem compassionate? Jeeeee-sus!


:puke:
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:04 PM
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59. Yeah, and they suddenly remembered there are poor people
when they saw their poll numbers. Some compassion.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:05 AM
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37. What a typical selfish repukelican
Blame anyone other than your own damn self for your problems.

This was my favorite line from the article:

He spoke of his party affiliation as though it were a congenital defect rather than a choice.

Doesn't that just say it all??? What a friggin idiot.
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PennyK Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:28 AM
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38. Watch for Milbank on "Countdown" tonight!
If, hopefully, Keith is on tonight (had yesterday off). Dania Milbank is a frequent guest on his show...and I can just see Keith teasing him about this article.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:32 AM
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40. I am telling you guys
It may very well be Mark Kennendy (R-MN) currently the rep for MN's 6th District, and running for senate this fall.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:38 AM
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41. Kennedy doesn't have any sense of compassion for anyone
so I doubt it. Although, he's has been trying to pretend that he is some sort of "independent thinker" LOL! but he doesn't strike me as one who would be reflective at all.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:58 AM
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43. re-election
concerns will make these guys do strange things.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 12:12 PM
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46. Ain't that the truth.
:hi:
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:42 AM
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42. anonymously, whadda pussbag.
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Pierre.Suave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:29 PM
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47. arent they all?
seriously.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 01:45 PM
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48. I know. I know who it is:
Lieberman.

:-)
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theanarch Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 02:18 PM
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53. It's Steele...the black Repub from...
...Maryland...open seat, competative race; probably a snazzy dresser, close to DC; cynical enough to generally toe the GOP line; scared enough to start distancing himself...just a guess, but it wouldn't surprise...
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:44 PM
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55. YOU ARE RIGHT! SABRA HAS POSTED THIS THREAD --
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theanarch Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:47 PM
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60. I WON! I WON! I WON!....
...so, what's my prize and where do i go to claim it?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:06 PM
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61. How about a nice square of applause?
:applause: :applause:
:applause: :applause:
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 08:13 PM
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62. Hmmmm. I asked over in GD for ideas. You deserve a prize!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:40 PM
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64. What you mean WE, Republican Man?
"We became so powerful in our ivory towers, in our gated communities. We forgot that there are poor people."

Delusions of grandeur.

Ivory towers.....:puke:
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:26 PM
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65. The article gave me an idea for a new Democratic ad to play this fall...
A short five-second spot peppered throughout the TV schedule, with bold white lettering over a black background.

Using alternating voices to read the text for each spot, the voice and the text will say:

"You aren't voting Republican, are you?"
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:45 AM
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66. Well, he may as well own up to him, he's just as stupid as Bush is.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 04:02 PM
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69. GOP Candidate Says Criticism Was a Joke
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/07/26/politics/p123541D70.DTL&type=politics

(07-26) 13:23 PDT Annapolis, Md. (AP) --

Republican Senate candidate Michael Steele on Wednesday called President Bush his "homeboy," reversed course on having the president campaign for him and said he was joking when he described his Republican affiliation as a scarlet letter.

The Maryland lieutenant governor, under fire for his comments, told WBAL radio that his remarks were supposed to be off the record with a handful of reporters. Instead, Steele's campaign confirmed Tuesday that he was the unnamed Senate candidate who had assailed the Bush administration and Republican-controlled Congress in a story in The Washington Post.

"I've been quoted as calling the president my homeboy, you know. And that's how I feel. ... It's a term of affection and respect for his leadership of our country in a difficult time," Steele, who is black, said in the radio interview.

The Post quoted the unnamed candidate as saying the GOP-controlled Congress should "just shut up and get something done," that the Iraq war "didn't work" and "we didn't prepare for the peace," that the response to Hurricane Katrina was "a monumental failure of government," and that "there's a palpable frustration right now in the country."
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