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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:38 AM
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Saddam says he would prefer firing squad
A thinner but combative Saddam Hussein returned to court Wednesday for the first time since his hunger strike and hospitalization, complaining he had been forced to attend the proceedings and asking to be executed by firing squad if the court sentences him to death.
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During one of Saddam's outbursts, Abdel-Rahman accused the ex-president of inciting violence against Iraqis. Saddam responded: "I am inciting the killing of Americans and invaders, not the killing of Iraqis. I am Saddam Hussein. I call Iraqis to be in harmony and work on evicting the invaders."

The judge told him that insurgents are killing an average of 60 Iraqis every day - and only two Americans. "Why are they attacking Iraqis in coffee shops and markets? Why don't they go detonate themselves among Americans?" he asked.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/APWires/headlines/D8J3ME607.html
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 08:59 AM
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1. "If" the court sentences him to death?
Certainly even Saddam Hussein realizes that his execution after a show trial is a foregone conclusion. It is the only possible outcome that would make the current governments of the US and Iraq look good.
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mike923 Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:00 AM
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2. I also prefer he gets a firing squad
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:03 AM
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3. Saddam should have taken up a gun just like his grandson and die like a
man in a gun battle if he likes fire squad so much.

He's a coward inside out.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:23 AM
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4. Why don't they go detonate themselves among Americans?"(judge)
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:38 AM
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5. Hang him poorly and let him dance.
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Tyrone Slothrop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 09:50 AM
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6. So....wait
The judge is blaming Saddam for the American occupation and the insurgency/civil war that's starting?

I am in NO way a "fan" of Saddam, but I don't really think you can blame him for either of those things.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 10:59 AM
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7. I predict
a firing squad on Monday November 6th. This will insure that Repubs stay in control of both houses. Sorry for the pessimism but this would not surprise me.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:08 AM
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8. Fine...
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:13 AM
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9. Can I get a gun on that squad?
Just dreamin'
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:40 AM
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10. I don't give a two-bit damn about Saddam's sentence
That Saddam would try to make a mockery of the court was always a foregone conclusion; so is his culpability in the crimes against the Iraqi people committed during his reign of terror.

We have no more to fear from giving Saddam a fair trial than giving one to Charlie Manson. Give him one. Don't give him any good reasons to mock the justice he receives.

Otherwise, I don't care if shot, hanged, guillotined, or rots away in an eight by ten cell for the rest of his natural life.

If it's the last of those, may his cellmate by G. W. Bush.


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Minstrel Boy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 11:56 AM
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11. "Why are they attacking Iraqis..."
The judge told him that insurgents are killing an average of 60 Iraqis every day - and only two Americans. "Why are they attacking Iraqis in coffee shops and markets? Why don't they go detonate themselves among Americans?" he asked.

Here's why:

“A few days ago, an American manned check point confiscated the driver license of a driver and told him to report to an American military camp near Baghdad airport for interrogation and in order to retrieve his license. The next day, the driver did visit the camp and he was allowed in the camp with his car. He was admitted to a room for an interrogation that lasted half an hour. At the end of the session, the American interrogator told him: ‘OK, there is nothing against you, but you do know that Iraq is now sovereign and is in charge of its own affairs. Hence, we have forwarded your papers and license to al-Kadhimia police station for processing. Therefore, go there with this clearance to reclaim your license. At the police station, ask for Lt. Hussain Mohammed who is waiting for you now. Go there now quickly, before he leaves his shift work”.

The driver did leave in a hurry, but was soon alarmed with a feeling that his car was driving as if carrying a heavy load, and he also became suspicious of a low flying helicopter that kept hovering overhead, as if trailing him. He stopped the car and inspected it carefully. He found nearly 100 kilograms of explosives hidden in the back seat and along the two back doors.

The only feasible explanation for this incident is that the car was indeed booby trapped by the Americans and intended for the al-Khadimiya Shiite district of Baghdad. The helicopter was monitoring his movement and witnessing the anticipated “hideous attack by foreign elements”.

The same scenario was repeated in Mosul, in the north of Iraq. A car was confiscated along with the driver’s license. He did follow up on the matter and finally reclaimed his car but was told to go to a police station to reclaim his license. Fortunately for him, the car broke down on the way to the police station. The inspecting car mechanic discovered that the spare tire was fully laden with explosives."

Warning to Iraqi drivers, May 11, 2005 (Arabic) (translation)

The Americans, my interlocutor suspected, are trying to provoke an Iraqi civil war so that Sunni Muslim insurgents spend their energies killing their Shia co-religionists rather than soldiers of the Western occupation forces. "I swear to you that we have very good information," my source says, finger stabbing the air in front of him. "One young Iraqi man told us that he was trained by the Americans as a policeman in Baghdad and he spent 70 per cent of his time learning to drive and 30 per cent in weapons training. They said to him: 'Come back in a week.' When he went back, they gave him a mobile phone and told him to drive into a crowded area near a mosque and phone them. He waited in the car but couldn't get the right mobile signal. So he got out of the car to where he received a better signal. Then his car blew up."

Impossible, I think to myself. But then I remember how many times Iraqis in Baghdad have told me similar stories. These reports are believed even if they seem unbelievable. And I know where much of the Syrian information is gleaned: from the tens of thousands of Shia Muslim pilgrims who come to pray at the Sayda Zeinab mosque outside Damascus. These men and women come from the slums of Baghdad, Hillah and Iskandariyah as well as the cities of Najaf and Basra. Sunnis from Fallujah and Ramadi also visit Damascus to see friends and relatives and talk freely of American tactics in Iraq.

"There was another man, trained by the Americans for the police. He too was given a mobile and told to drive to an area where there was a crowd - maybe a protest - and to call them and tell them what was happening. Again, his new mobile was not working. So he went to a landline phone and called the Americans and told them: 'Here I am, in the place you sent me and I can tell you what's happening here.' And at that moment there was a big explosion in his car."

Just who these "Americans" might be, my source did not say. In the anarchic and panic-stricken world of Iraq, there are many US groups - including countless outfits supposedly working for the American military and the new Western-backed Iraqi Interior Ministry - who operate outside any laws or rules. No one can account for the murder of 191 university teachers and professors since the 2003 invasion - nor the fact that more than 50 former Iraqi fighter-bomber pilots who attacked Iran in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war have been assassinated in their home towns in Iraq in the past three years.

Robert Fisk, April 29, 2006
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 12:14 PM
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12. K&R
And to think about the "only two Americans" part makes me sick.

"only" sounds like nobody cares that "it's Bush's fault."

The blivet and his crack pots (PNAC) must be judged at The Hague or there's no justice in this world.
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unda cova brutha Donating Member (208 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 12:18 PM
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13. it seems like alot of people here are in favor of the death penalty
in this case.

so sad.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-26-06 01:07 PM
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14. I'd gladly volunteer for that one
Edited on Wed Jul-26-06 01:07 PM by slackmaster
The hard question would be which rifle to use.

Naw, an M1 Garand would be perfect.

OTOH which M1 Garand.

:shrug:
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