Bush says doesn't want "fake peace" in Lebanon

[sabra]

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N27186394.htm

Bush says doesn't want "fake peace" in Lebanon

WASHINGTON, July 27 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush said on Thursday he wanted an end to the conflict in southern Lebanon as soon as possible but that he did not want a "fake peace" that would only delay fighting.

Bush's comments, made during a picture-taking session with Romanian President Traian Basescu, reflected the U.S. position that Washington wants a "sustainable" ceasefire that addresses the threat of Hizbollah in Lebanon instead of an immediate ceasefire.

"My goal is exactly what I said it was, and that is to hopefully end this as quickly as possible and at the same time making sure there is a lasting peace, not a fake peace," Bush said.

...

"Look as soon as we can get this resolved, the better, obviously. But it must be real and it can't be fake. And so there's a serious diplomatic effort making sure there is a lasting peace, not a fake peace," he said.

[Ezlivin]

1. If it works as well as fake tits, who cares?

I'll take a fake peace over a real war anytime.

[gratuitous]

12. Ding, ding, ding! Winner -- Fake peace preferable to real war

The Bush administration is simply setting up the perfect as the mortal enemy of the good. It wants only a "genuine" peace or a "sustainable" ceasefire. Now, how in the world do you distinguish the "genuine" or the "sustainable"? Curiously, our MBA president doesn't provide any metrics that would help us measure this.

But if peace must be "genuine" or a ceasefire must be "sustainable," then the United States has the duty, nay, the God-bestowed obligation to fight against peace or a ceasefire, lest it be anything less than the real thing. We not only should continue with armed hostilities, we have to keep the bullets flying and the bombs dropping, to be sure that any peace or ceasefire isn't counterfeit, as defined by the Bush administration in its sole wisdome and authority.

This is way down the slope of madness, and we're picking up speed.

[mom cat]

18. Illegal brutal massacre preferable to fake peace! Right george.

Any war is preferable to peace ... *W*

[saigon68]

50. He wants a desert of craters in Lebanon

And thousands of Islamic bodies rotting in the sun

[saigon68]

51. As the Chimpanzee, he also wants his Banana

[mom cat]

58. He can have all the bananas I would eat in my life if he would stop

killing people.

[Lisa]

28. and that links up so well with Cheney's "1% doctrine"

That thing about how if there's even a 1% chance of a threat (initially terrorist WMDs but I believe they're using it more generally now), "we need to treat it as a certainty, not in our analysis or the preponderance of evidence, but in our response". Of course, when he is the one who is defining and assessing it, basically anything that HE says is suspicious goes! Not just an "evidence-free model", as Suskind calls it, but one based on the malice/bias of those in power.

As you put it so well, gratuitous -- they can label something "unsustainable" or "not genuine", and that is the only thing which counts in terms of their response.

[David Zephyr]

54. LOL!

You made my day, Ezlivin! Thank you for expressing my sentiments so well. Wish I'd said that. :hi:

[The Deacon]

2. Why Not?

He's a Fake President.

[liberal N proud]

3. Everyone just keep shooting each other until you are ready to be happy

and live in peace.

What the fuck kind of bull shit is that?

[jayfish]

6. One Would Think It's Total F'ing Insanity.

Problem is it's not. It's the only thing they can come up with to give the Israeli government more time to kill civilians. It's kind of like school administrators letting two kids duke it out on the playground, all the while saying "We don't want to stop the fight until we're sure it doesn't continue in the class room. It's criminal.

Jay

[NanceGreggs]

4. Predictable statement ...

... from a FAKE president.

[twaddler01]

48. Yes, nothing to see here kids, move along...n/t

[Beelzebud]

5. I'm tired of having a fake president!

[crossroads]

22. Right On With That Remark

Thie whole presidency has been 'fake' from the selection process in 2000!!!

[Sherman A1]

57. Exactly

[keopeli]

7. The opposite of "lasting peace" is not "fake peace"...it's temporary peace

otherwise known as "cease fire" or "truce" and, in some academic circles, as "diplomacy". None of these provide "lasting peace", though "diplomacy" comes closest.

Fake peace? What is fake peace?

I need a translator

[ronnie624]

27. The fool

does not even remotely understand these issues. There is no record in his public life of any genuine displays of intellectual curiosity. It is also quite obvious, simply by listening to him speak, he can barely even read. Add to that mix a brain that has been addled by years of chronic alcoholism, and a far more accurate characterization of George Bush emerges than the one presented by the corporate media. His gibberish is designed specifically for consumption by 10s of millions of Americans who also know nothing about the world, but will nod along in agreement simply because he uses the names of mysterious far away places.

There is virtually no chance of any peace anytime soon. The long term goal of the neocon criminals who control the U.S. government is to make client states of Lebanon and Syria, and subdue Iran with military power, while Israel intends to steal Lebanon's water. It is far more likely the entire region will erupt into a nuclear conflagration in the coming years.

[Tellurian]

29. yes, and meanwhile..

Americans must endure the fake democracy created by a government
hijacked by federalist corporate thugs.

[Critters2]

53. Self-delete

Wrong place

I'm a idiot.

[Lisa]

30. another ingredient to the mix ... an endless parade of people telling him

... that he is either too stupid to try to analyze issues (so why bother since he will only be made to look foolish), or that he is above that sort of thing, a "doer" and "decider" not some kind of egghead philosopher, so therefore he has no need of it and should avoid it! It likely started with his mom, and continued with his frat buddies and then Karl Rove.

Even people who are arrogant, impatient, and not intellectually-inclined, can be cajoled into learning, but it takes a great deal of time and empathy (and usually some outside pressure that makes them fear failure, or eager to reap a possible reward). I work with people who teach "problem" students, and they are experienced enough to reach an understanding with them. But Georgie was never put in a situation where this was the only alternative for him.

[Rose Siding]

8. Oh, man, that's some sweaty desperation right there.

Huckster.

I got yer gen-u-wine, 99 and 99 and one hundredths per cent pure peace. Come and git it.

http://www.uszynski.com.nyud.net:8090/Used%20car%20salesman.jpg

[bullimiami]

9. bush is a WAR president. not a peace president. he told you so himself.

[patcox2]

10. The peace of the grave is the only true peace.

nt

[HuffleClaw]

11. thats the BEST they can come up with???

wow, they aren't even really trying at all are they? 'fake peace'. good lord, they need new propagandists.

[bluedeminredstate]

13. An odd choice of words

and he said it twice! Fake? WTF? Maybe he should focus on stopping buildings and bridges from being reduced to rubble and families from having bombs landing on their cars in the immediate. Peace can come later, but isn't the goal to stop the hostilities and KILLING of civilians? In fact, if he's waiting for peace he can wait another few thousand years because peace hasn't ever been in abundant supply in the ME.
What a lame ass way of trying to cover his backside - he wants Israel to continue but he can't say it so he comes up with this "fake" horse shit. He sounds like a child: "They shouldn't stop bombing since they don't really mean it..."

:grr:

[orleans]

14. of course fuckhead doesn't want a "fake peace"

he doesn't want any kind of peace!

let the madness begin!

[BeyondGeography]

15. Mr. "No Half Measures" rides again

just like he took care of Osama and Zawahiri...

[w4rma]

16. Bush doesn't want peace at all. Except maybe the kind of peace you get

after a successful genocide.

[Amonester]

17. Sure. King George, the New Tyranny fake leader, doesn't want

a 'fake peace' like the one he created in Iraq, and that keeps on going, and going, and going... Sure.

Credibility?

His unilateral junta still has a lot of that stuff, doesn't it?
:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[MrPrax]

19. Real Peace? Like Iraq or Afghan? n/t

[rocktivity]

20. Rocknation doesn't want fake democracy in Afghanistan and Iraq

A ceasefire may be a fake peace, but at least it's pro-life.

On edit: Rocknation doesn't want a fake president in the White House, either.

:headbang:
rocknation

[crim son]

52. I was just about to post the same thing.

I guess there's fake and then there's what the Pretzel determines is fake. AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH! Make him go away! I can't tolerate one more second of his pigheaded ignorance.

[Malva Zebrina]

21. Fake peace? What the hell is he talking about?

Syria is supposed to stop this shit. Is that the real "peace" he thinks exists? Save us from this idiot of a stupid ignoramus going about fund raising and yukking it up at G8 because he sensed all those around him were better informed, smarter and possessed far more grace than this white piece of trash could ever hope to have. So, clown around, that oughta make one a real president to be respected, who most likely cannot tell the difference between peace and war at this point. He loves the war part, so anything that is garnered as far as stopping this slaughter, will be deemed, by this stupid jerk, as "fake"

[thereismore]

23. What the fvck is a fake peace? Any kind of peace is better than what

they have right now. Is it fake war or real war? What a moran blood sucking sick giggling murderer.

[karlrschneider]

24. He hasn't worried about his fake war in Iraq

:eyes:

[TheCowsCameHome]

25. His whole presidency is fake. He should be an expert by now.

[OregonDem]

26. Of course Bush doesn't want "fake peace",

because he prefers "real wars" with fake reasons.

[leesa]

31. Where did they think up this nonsense? Fake peace? If no one's shooting

it's peace, numbnuts. But, of course it's the LAST thing the Neocons want.

[VegasWolf]

32. This? Coming from a fake president ...

:puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke::puke:

[The_Casual_Observer]

33. He seems to believe that by buying time & killing more arabs

that Israel will prevail in this thing & emerge victorious. This is a recipe for an unending Iraq/Iran style war that could go on for years.

[MODemocrat]

34. Bush is a Fake; so what difference does it make to him

as long as there's a ceasefire? Golly Gee, didn't know he was, all of a sudden, trying to be forthright.
:puke: :spank: :banghead:

[coalition_unwilling]

35. Better a fake peace than a fake war (n/t)

[coalition_unwilling]

36. This is the same guy who said that the "root cause" of

Mideast violence is "terrorism" (specifically, Hezbollah t"errorism"). This is such an obvious confusing of cause and effect (terrorism is an effect, not a cause) as would make any college freshman in Freshman English 1 blush.

No matter how often or how shrilly they repeat their lies, they remain lies.

[sutz12]

37. Real peace....

means Halliburton gets the contracts to rebuild. Have to keep up hostilities to maximize the contracts, you know. The real negotiations are going on in background.

:evilgrin:

[BigDDem]

38. No "fake peace"

said the man bringing the fake turkey.

[0007]

39. junior is a genuine phony that only corporate America can love

[daleo]

40. Fake peace is good enough for Iraq

According to Bush. So what's the problem?

[EndElectoral]

41. Why have fake peace when you can have real war!!! what an idiot!

[maxrandb]

42. I hate when this idiot uses those stupid interjections like we are

4 year olds.

"Look, as soon as....

"See, it's like this...

"Ya see, what my oponent....

It's the frickin' School House Rock Pretzledent!!

[bluedeminredstate]

44. "In other words..."

That crap drives me nuts. He must think because he's a complete empty shell of a human that, like him, the rest of us need things put to us several ways in order to understand.
"Israel is at war with its enemies. In other words, there is no peace...
but we don't want a fake peace. In other words, the peace has to be real."

:banghead:

[Lisa]

55. I sometimes wonder whether he's just repeating his aides!

I'm sure that they have to spend HOURS explaining things using very simple analogies ("see, this is how it works"), and Georgie just uses the exact same words and tone of voice with us, because he isn't clued-in or imaginative enough to come up with his own explanation.

By the way, his record for using "see" in a speech is 18 so far -- if anyone notices him using even more, please let www.dubyaspeak.com know! (He used "in other words" 19 times in one January appearance.)


http://www.dubyaspeak.com/seecount.phtml
http://www.dubyaspeak.com/inotherwordscount.phtml

[GoddessOfGuinness]

43. Fake peace beats the hell out of real bombs

I imagine the mothers of those babies that were killed the other day feel the same way.

[Just Me]

45. I can't even READ what this * says anymore,...

,...I turned him off quite some time ago because visual and auditory exposure to him caused/s a reaction I can not describe.

[bronxiteforever]

46. Bush would have slept through the Sermon on the Mount

[EFerrari]

47. I guess we have to unload those democracy shells

and cluster bombs of freedom!

Somebody mail this decider a fig leaf.

[Miss Chybil]

49. Remember the saying, "Fighting for peace is like f***ing for

virginity?"

Bush is an idiot.

[Anita Garcia]

56. That is sooooo fourth grade!

[truth2power]

59. Well...I didn't want a fake President, either....

:puke:

[Generic Brad]

60. Is 'fake peace' akin to the "fake democracy" in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Just wondering....
:shrug: