Iran President Says Israel Has Pushed Self-Destruct Button

[sabra]

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Iran President Says Israel Has Pushed Self-Destruct Button

TEHRAN (AP)--Israel has ordained its own destruction by invading Lebanon, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Thursday, according to the state news agency.

Addressing the clerical staff of the Friday prayer sermons in Tehran, Ahmadinejad said Israel and its supporters "should know that they cannot end the business that they have begun."

"The occupying regime of Palestine has actually pushed the button of its own destruction by launching a new round of invasion and barbaric onslaught on Lebanon," the official Islamic Republic News Agency quoted the president as saying.

[benburch]

1. I wish that I didn't agree with him.

They have set in motion events that WILL destroy them, though I fervently wish it were not so!

[AndyA]

2. I have to agree. They've done what they felt they needed to do, and now

they must suffer the consequences of those actions.

War is such a waste of time and lives.

[Minstrel Boy]

17. what you said n/t

[Master Mahon]

3. If I didn't know any better

I'd swear Ahmadinejad worked for the Bush Administration.
It seems like he, Bolton, Cheney, etc., are competing for who can be the craziest title.

[iconoclastic cat]

9. Same hair as *:

[uppityperson]

12. "President"?

:shrug: what crazy title?

[pinto]

4. There's as much rhetoric being slung around the Middle East

as there are munitions. I'd take this with a grain of salt.

[hang a left]

18. Yeah really

I wonder if he really says half the shit he is credited with.

[Just Me]

5. Stupid, unrealistic, delusional PNACers.

They have made us and Israel the world's number one enemy and are determined to stir up another world war.

Iran's President is just as radical as the PNACers but hasn't engaged in military aggressions killing or maiming hundreds of thousands of Americans or Iraelis.

PNACers,...ohhhhh,....God I wish,...I wish,...BAH!!!! I wish they were in prison where they belong for all their belligerent activities and human rights and war crimes.

[theanarch]

6. of course, but perhaps not in the way...

...Ahmadinejad imagines. According to some news reports i've seen, the whole invasion has been both a tactical AND a strategic blunder from the start. First, the Israeli Air Force all but promised a total victory through air power alone (one thinks of Goering's similiar promise to Hitler re: the Battle of Britian), and utterly failed, forcing the IDF to invade. So far, that has proved quite the disaster as well, as Hezbollah is described (by IDF types, no less) as a highly motivated, highly disciplined and tactically sophisticated army...far moreso than IDF planners ever imagined or could give them credit for (talk about being "misunderestimated"!). For their part, the IDF has been "amateur hour" all the way: losing a main battle tank in the first five minutes (literally); two helicopters crashing into each other, and losing a third to friendly fire; getting ambushed in virtually every village they enter. By now, it's quite possible that IDF losses are equal to Hezbollah's losses (the Israel's have run up the score only on civilians), and this is causing doubt and hesitation up and down the chain of command. Even public opinion is beginning to slip: a week ago, 90%+ of Israeli opinion supported the war; it's now down to 82%; and with the call-up of 30K reservists, public support is bound to erode even further and faster.

While these reports claim (quite correctly) that the IDF's reputation for invincibility gives them a psychological edge, they fail to note that this edge was lost when Israel withdrew from Southern Lebanon in 2000, after what all sides agree (some more tacitly than others) was a MILITARY defeat at the hands of Hezabollah. If the IDF was hoping to regain that edge in this current offensive, they are close to achieving the opposite, that the IDF isn't what it used to be, thus raising the morale (and recruiting prospects) not only of Hezbollah, but Hamas, etc. as well. Worse yet, Arab governments (Jordan, Egypt, Syria) that have practiced detente with Israel on the assumption the IDF was unbeatable, are now questioning if that is still the case. It would be quite the irony if, by this offensive (planned for years, and rehearsed--at brigade level--only a few months ago) Israel/the IDF hoped to reclaim its former military glory, and achieved ignimony instead.

[kineneb]

16. you forgot one other thing

the "whack-a-mole" syndrome:

Whack a bunch of "terrorists" down in Location X, more pop up elsewhere in Location Z (see Iraq). Israel is busy making more enemies close to home. Many Lebanese are taking this fight personally, Hezbollah or not. Talk about not winning hearts and minds...

[theanarch]

19. i take your point, but...

...it's not something i've forgotten. If anything, the danger to Israel is that, for all their frenetic flailing, they aren't even whacking the moles in Lebanon, and more of them will be popping up elsewhere besides. But then, both the US and Israel seem to be following the "stratergy" of "if you grab them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow." How enlightened is that?

[saigon68]

21. The Whack a Mole syndrome

reminiscent of the War Crimes being done in the name of Freedom and democracy in Iraq-Nam

LOL

[pretzel4gore]

22. i love israel...

it seems the leadership is too lazy (or they're counting on the us mass media ie the pigmedia to maintain the support levels etc) to work at peace, which requires a helluva lot of tranquilizers to put up with, agreed, but....even menachin begin, who was a tough no nonsense cookie, understood that, in the final analysis, israel depended upon the goodwill of the world's people to survive, and it was using that that a peace accord, of sorts, could be achieved maybe -YET now this olmert guy thinks he knows better? bs! that goddam bush, goddam that pig to hell!
> tomas friedman wrote a doorstopper called 'from beirut to jerusalem' back in clinton days: in it, he admitted that israel had the nuke, and in the twisted way friedman thinks, he credited mordecai vanuunu for a)revealing the fact to the rest of the world while b) letting israel deny deny deny it, and put mordecai in jail for 20 years etc....a classic case of mr pig having his slop and eating it too! What mostly struck about friedman's book though was this: the christian west (including russia) might be all over the map regards the state of israel, but one thing sure- THEY WILL NOT ALLOW ISRAEL TO BE DESTROYED MILITARILY! iow, israel didn't really need nukes; it had nuke powers like usa, france, britain and even russia in the basckground, and the people of those countries could not, would not sit by while the arabs crushed israel....
i hate the murdering bastards doing to lebanon and the palestinians what they're doing, but mygod, i love israel, and will fight to protect her if she ever really in danger!

[KoKo]

7. He reminds me more and more of Bush every time he opens his mouth...

Posturing for his audience just like the Busholini does. What's the difference? Maybe a little in the outrageousness of the rhetoric on Ahmadinejad's part but the Chimp in one of his bad moods where he smirks and smiles when he mentions "kill and terror" could sometimes almost compete.

They are birds of a feather. Bush and the Terrorists and the world is their playground...until the PEOPLE WAKE UP! Add a little Annie Coulter, some G. Gordon Liddy, and any number of the loonies spouting "hate speak" on the Right and you've got what's over there in the ME.

Bring in the GROWN UPS! Where ARE THEY????

[bemildred]

8. The comparison doesn't seem strained at all.

If you squint a little, they even look alike.

[savemefromdumbya]

10. Cheney is pressing Israel's button

[Lefty48197]

11. Yeah right. I'll look to the Iranian dictator's opinion on humanitarian

issues.

[Just Me]

13. Yup. We've long left being committed to a higher standard behind.

Yup Yup Yup!!!

This administration has oppressed literally tens of millions, either economically here at home or via a war based on lies abroad.

The U.S. no longer has any commitment to taking the higher ground. We're now savages. CORRECTION: the government in power are savages.

[dogfacedboy]

14. Along with the

traitorous scum that supports the Bushswine.
I wish nothing but horrible things on those who put Bush into the WH.
This includes relatives of mine. FUCK 'EM ALL.

[Doctor_J]

15. Oh World War 3's a-comin, it's right around the bend

Us and our pals Israel against the whole UN

Oh, I'm stuck in Smirky's hell-hole, time keeps draggin' on
But Rove & Dick keep rollin' til my whole country's gone.

From AzDar:

.And when they installed Bolton, they knew he'd vote their way,
'Cause when the Middle East blows up, it brings on Judgement Day,

Now we're stuck in Smirky's hell-hole,time keeps draggin'on..
But Rove & Dick keep rollin','til our whole Country's gone.

[stepnw1f]

20. Yes They Did

Even now, idiots cheerlead their own madness on..... and the sickos are rubbing their hands fiendishly. And the killing goes on and on...

[Peace Patriot]

23. Well, WE drove the Iranians into the arms of the mullahs. The U.S. and

Israel destroyed Iranian democracy in 1954, and installed the horrible Shah of Iran, who inflicted the Iranian people with 25 years of torture and oppression. Nice lesson to Iranians. Don't choose democracy. We will kill you for it.

My plan for Mideast peace: Israel apologizes to the Iranian people for destroying their democracy, admits they were wrong, asks for a clean slate--amnesty, peace--and pledges some of Israel's resources to a rebirth of Persian culture, and to the betterment of the common good in the Middle East, including throwing the Bush Cartel out of it.

The world would weep for joy.

John Lennon said, "Imagine." Let's do it!

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I fear that Ahmadinejad is right. Israel's alliance with the Bushites is the worst mistake its leadership has ever made. The Bush junta is behind this assault on Lebanon. This is Plan B of the Bushite/NeoCon "Project for a New American Century": get Israel to do it. EIGHTY-FOUR PERCENT of the American people oppose U.S. participation in a widened Mideast war, and Russia, China, Europe and the entire world have nixed it. So the Bushites, who hold the purse strings, egg their proxy Israel into getting it started. Next will be the "Gulf of Tonkin"-type incident that triggers the U.S. jumping in. And the cost and carnage will be blamed on Israel. Mark my words. The Bushites are the most treacherous people on earth. They have no loyalty to anybody. They hang out with Saudis and bin Ladens. Israel needs to break with the Bushites and create something BETTER than the medieval armed fortress that militarism and war profiteers have made it into.

Startle the world, Israel! Do it! Do it! Make a dramatic gesture of peace! A hundred countries will instantly be your friend, and you won't need these bloody fascist Bushites!

[ronnie624]

25. Oh, how I wish it could be so.

"My plan for Mideast peace: Israel apologizes to the Iranian people for destroying their democracy, admits they were wrong, asks for a clean slate--amnesty, peace--and pledges some of Israel's resources to a rebirth of Persian culture, and to the betterment of the common good in the Middle East, including throwing the Bush Cartel out of it."


Then, the world could cooperate in producing solutions to some very pressing problems such as overpopulation, water and food shortages, pollution, and the ever hovering threat of global climate change.

However, I believe all we have to look forward to is the implementation of PNAC's plan B.

The future looks bleak.

[autorank]

24. Ineresting...

Here's a guy to listen too! Wasn't he the one acting like a holacost denier a few months ago. Didn't he write * some crazy letter trying to convice * that they were soul brother religous fanatics. @ell, maybe that's not such a crazy description, but the sentiment is. Iran pulled the self-destruct button when it let religious fools run the country jsut as Israel hurt its cause with this artless, blunt incision in a country that should be an ally.

I'm not a big bliever in karma but I'm beginning to wonder why we have, all at one tme, the largest collection of ignorant, unstable people running things.

[barb162]

26. I wonder if he admits yet the Holocaust actually took place

This guy is a blowhard troublemaker deluxe

[Ghost Dog]

27. As I understand it, he always did accept that the holocaust took place.

He (and others) appear to only question the "numbers", and I'm sorry, it hurts me even to discuss it.

And also question the use that is being made today of that history.