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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:38 PM
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Rep. Harris demands Howard Dean apologize
TAMPA, Fla. - U.S. Rep. Katherine Harris demanded an apology Thursday from Democratic Party chairman Howard Dean, who during a speech this week likened the senatorial candidate to former Soviet ruler Joseph Stalin.

Dean, in a speech to Democratic business leaders in West Palm Beach, made the remark in reference to Harris' handling of the 2000 presidential election recount when she was Florida secretary of state and an honorary chairwoman of George W. Bush's Florida campaign.

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Dean said in Wednesday's speech that Democratic incumbent Bill Nelson is "going to beat the pants off Katherine Harris, who didn't understand that it is ethically improper to be the chairman of a campaign and count the votes at the same time. This is not Russia and she is not Stalin."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060727/ap_on_el_se/dean_harris

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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:41 PM
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1. Why not a compromise?
Dean takes back what he said about Harris, and she takes back her certification of the 2000 Florida vote count?

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LisaM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:50 PM
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13. Really? I demand that SHE apologize to the world
for all the death she helped inflict on it.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 07:14 PM
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18. I think he should apologize.
Say, "OK, maybe she IS Stalin".
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 08:49 PM
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28. Agreed
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gully Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 07:17 PM
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20. "Count" me in.
Edited on Thu Jul-27-06 07:17 PM by gully
;)
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 10:45 PM
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41. too little
waaaaaay too late
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 11:50 PM
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45. Hey, if it meant installing one Albert Gore as the rightful ...
... president tomorrow morning, I'd take it.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:41 PM
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2. I predict that Howard Dean doesn't apologize.
He wasn't accusing her of murdering millions. He was accusing her of running sham elections like under Stalin.

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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:42 PM
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3. But she's political history. Who would care? nt
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wurzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:49 PM
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12. History is Dean's point. Stalin once said
"It isn't who votes that counts. It is who counts the votes."
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 10:58 PM
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42. I meant she's "history" as in history after November.
Back in 2000? Oh, yeah. She WAS Stalin. So was Rove.

The GOP was proud they stole Florida. Fascists to the core.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:42 PM
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4. People in hell want ice water too. n/t
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:42 PM
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5. Whiner.
Whine whine whine.

I remember when they called us whiners all the time.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 08:21 PM
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27. And don't forget "hand-wringers."
Whining hand-wringers. They deserve it, although I can think of dozens of worse things to call them - and her especially.

Another case of They-Can-Dish-It-Out-But-They-Can't-Take-It. Typical bullies. They only prevail when nobody challenges them.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:43 PM
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6. AWe This is war.....don't apologize. Throw her more!!!
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:44 PM
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7. Dean said, "This is not Russia and she is not Stalin."
A statement of fact. What is there to apologize about?

:shrug:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 03:56 PM
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53. She "didn't understand that it is ethically improper to be
the chairman of a campaign and count the votes at the same time."

Also a statement of fact. I hope he doesn't apologize.
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:44 PM
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8. LOL - Dean said She's NOT Stalin so what's the problem?
:rofl:
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 08:13 PM
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25. She has a high opinion of herself
and once she served her purpose, doing her part to install this regime, she was regarded as just so much Santorum ...
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 08:55 PM
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31. I can't wait until they throw Blackwewll to the wolves like Harris.
They use people and when they overstep their welcome cast them aside for the wolves to devour. She's political roadkill. Couldn't happen to a nicer woman.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 08:55 PM
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30. Waaaaaa! But I AM Stalin!!! Waaaaaaa!!!
I am TOO just as good as Stalin - even BETTER!!!
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 02:58 AM
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48. ROFL nt
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Thor_MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:45 PM
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9. I'm confused. She wants an apology for being called "NOT Stalin"?
NT
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:46 PM
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10. was it Harry Truman who said "NEVER apologize"? and howard gave her
a compliment. she is not stalin. whew, that's a big relief to the people of florida, especially jewish ones.
(The soviets did not care for jewish people).

Msongs
www.msongs.com/howarddean2008.htm
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:47 PM
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11. DESPERATE HARRIS...throughs her "credibility" to the Coulter Wing of
Party...figuring going after Dean will get her BIG BROWNIE POINTS as she Implodes and her Campaign Managers leave her to go work for the "other person."

Sheesh... HEY KATIE...Tell us Dem's what you know about "STOLEN ELECTION 2000" and maybe we can "cut a deal" for you! :rofl:
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:51 PM
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14. She so nuts she will forget about in a day or two
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 06:56 PM
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15. Here's your apology, trash
Edited on Thu Jul-27-06 06:56 PM by gristy
"I'm sorry that Ms. Harris does not understand that it is ethically improper to be the chairman of a campaign and count the votes at the same time. I'm also sorry that she doesn't live in Russia and is Stalin's illegitimate daughter." :evilgrin:
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 07:03 PM
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16. truth hurts doesn't it bitch
I hope you fall flat on your fake boobies and they pop and you deflate and go away
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theanarch Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 07:13 PM
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17. well, to be fair...
the truth hurts only if you're guilty.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 07:16 PM
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19. i love it!
dr. dean, DO NOT apologize! you are so correct!
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 07:21 PM
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21. really?
But doesn't Harris and the whole GOP owe a huge apology to America for fixing the voting system?
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 07:26 PM
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22. Well, Kathy baby, a hard lesson we must
all learn at some time or another in life is that there are times when the truth hurts! :rofl: :rofl:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 07:39 PM
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23. This is how she's staying in the news?
wow.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 07:49 PM
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24. Dean's words are diabolically correct..
his next press conf, should the press make ref to Harris-

Ask if Ms. Harris is correcting Dean's statement,
acknowledging, she is LIKE Stalin...

After all, Dean said, "she is NOT Stalin!"
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 08:15 PM
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26. Dean should apologize!
Comparing Harris to Stalin is an insult to Stalin's memory!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 08:52 PM
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29. Same thing happened in
Ohio, didn't it? blackwell was the secretary of state and chairman of some damn bush thing?

Good, harris is bringing it up again...way to get Dean more publicity for what he accused her of..which was being the secretary of state and chairperson of the bush campaign..ya dumb shit.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 09:07 PM
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32. Go get 'em, Katy. Show us how a winner deals with this stuff.
Oh. You mean you're no doing so well in the polls? Sorry to hear that.

Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 09:09 PM
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33. Yet another reason to love Howard Dean.
:kick:
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 09:14 PM
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34. this should give her campaign a jump start
:rofl:
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 09:25 PM
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35. I do not think he should apologize. He was referring to Stalin's
quote about voting which I think goes something like this. "It does not matter who one votes for, what matters is who counts the votes." Obviously Harris agrees with Stalin.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 03:58 PM
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54. I agree...
Stick to your guns, Howard.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 09:36 PM
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36. Fuck her......
The only apology she should get is, don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out, bitch....
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IowaGuy Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 09:45 PM
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37. Sir (uh Madam), I knew Joseph Stalin...and your no Joseph Stalin...
His mustache was much nicer....
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ticapnews Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 10:17 PM
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38. OK, OK, fine. You *ARE* Stalin!
That make you feel better, Kathy?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 03:58 PM
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55. THAT should be Dean's retort!
:rofl:

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MarkTwain Donating Member (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 10:29 PM
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39. It's The Descendants and Family of Stalin...
... who should be demanding that Dean apologize.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 10:34 PM
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40. Dean was wrong in comparing Harris to Stalin.








Harris doesn't have a mustache.



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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 11:03 PM
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43. What's the problem... he said "...she is not Stalin". This is true.
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 11:05 PM
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44. Apologize? Send that bleep bleep bleeper bleepin' bleep
to prison for treason.
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-27-06 11:53 PM
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46. Harris is the one who should apologize
...for disenfranchising voters.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 02:58 AM
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47. The comment speaks for itself.
It's not inappropriate at ALL.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 03:47 AM
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49. "'I'm sorry I said you're not Stalin.I really meant you're not Hitler."
Edited on Fri Jul-28-06 04:01 AM by librechik
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:34 PM
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50. Actually, Dean said that she is NOT Stalin.
So he didn't "liken" her to Stalin. What's the problem?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:36 PM
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51. You think Harris would apologize if Dean made the same request?
Of course not. She's got a lot of nerve.
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 12:39 PM
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52. I'll write the apology
"I'm sorry, Ms. Harris. Your moustache is much less bushy than Stalin's was."
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andlor Donating Member (300 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:00 PM
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56. harris
fuck off!!!!
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:01 PM
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57. Good luck you miserable old tart....As soon as you apologize for ...
..fucking with a Federal Election and that you are willing to name names in order to right the heinous wrong you committed, I think it would be best if you just shut the fuck up and concentrated on figuring out which part of your anatomy gets surgically altered next.....

M'kay?
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 04:32 PM
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58. Howard Dean DID Misspeak
Howard Dean DID mis-speak. He SHOULD have said "This is not the Philippines of thirty years ago and Katherine Harris is not Ferdinand Marcos."

:evilgrin:
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