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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:44 AM
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US 'outrage' over Israeli claims

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5223940.stm

US 'outrage' over Israeli claims

Israel's forceful campaign has caused fury among some US allies
The US state department has dismissed as "outrageous" a suggestion by Israel that it has been authorised by the world to continue bombing Lebanon.

"The US is sparing no efforts to bring a durable and lasting end to this conflict," said spokesman Adam Ereli.

Israeli Justice Minister Haim Ramon made the suggestion after powers meeting in Rome refrained from demanding an immediate ceasefire.



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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:48 AM
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1. Spare us the faux outrage, Israel said what must not be said in public
that the US gave the green light to Israel to continue the bombing, and that the US also was told by Israel about the bombing before the first bomb fell on Beirut.

The inability of the West to even agree to a ceasefire, says volumes about how irrelevant the US and Europe have become in this century.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:50 AM
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2. we did give them permission--simple as that
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:53 AM
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4. Yes. Condi's statement about not wanting a faux peace was the
green light for continuing the massacre.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:07 AM
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7. Yes, nonsense
On the other hand, assuming arguendo that the State Department's proclaimed outrage is genuine, I'd have to say that Israel's claim to have the world's permission to continue its massacre is on a par with Republican overstatements and power grabs over the last several years. From Bush's use of signing statements to a claim of a mandate after the 2004 elections, the Bushistas really like to take full advantage of any edge, no matter how slight. It's total poppycock for them to bitch now about Israel using the Bush administraation's own tactical rhetoric to claim a mandate of its own.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:09 AM
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9. No one can match the US when it comes to hypocrisy and war crimes
As brutal as Israel's bombing of Lebanon has been, it is mild compared to what we have done to Iraq.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 01:37 PM
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13. Sadly, I agree
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 06:31 PM
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14. I have thought of that too
The U.S. has done worse in Iraq, with much less (none really) provocation. Furthermore, Hezbollah does present some threat to Israel (not existential, but not trivial) whereas Iraq presented no threat whatsoever to the United States.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 06:38 PM
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15. "Paging April Glaspie. Ms. April Glaspie."
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:50 AM
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3. Yes. Go, USA: You know this situation is untenable. No future.
"The US state department has dismissed as "outrageous" a suggestion by Israel that it has been authorised by the world to continue bombing Lebanon.

"The US is sparing no efforts to bring a durable and lasting end to this conflict," said spokesman Adam Ereli."

ADD WORD: IMMEDIATE, please.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 09:55 AM
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5. I've seen crocodiles cry with more sincerity. n/t
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:01 AM
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6. Bullshit....
If that's the case then why is the US speeding up shipments of bunker bustng bombs to Israel? Spare me the total lying claptrap coming from the US State Department.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:08 AM
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8. i`m outraged !! i tell you i`m outraged!!!
actually i thought the usa did give them the green light..why else would the whitehouse be sending more laser guided bombs to the idf?
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:14 AM
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10. Proves a lot. The bowl of shit is pretty clear to see.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 10:22 AM
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11. AND Hezbollah gaining support when there was condemnation
Implicit part of Israel's statement is open season on civilians and UN
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-28-06 11:53 AM
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12. The condemnation was quirky.
Not "It was wrong, we must respect Israeli sovereignty" but "It was wrong, it will hurt our interests." Not "the abductions were wrong because they killed Israeli soldiers in peacetime" but "oh, shit, what has Hezbollah landed us in."

The condemnation from almost all quarters was entirely self-centered, not altruistic or centered on any principle but the integrity of their own hide. Even the lack of support from Arab nations had nothing to do with Israel, but had to do with their own power.

It's not a symptom. It's a large part of the "root cause."
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