Mel Gibson's DUI - Went on Anti-Semetic Tirade - Coverup alleged!

[RadiDem]

The (police) report says Gibson then launched into a barrage of anti-Semitic statements: "F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"

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The officer who wrote the original report was ordered to write another. 4 pages of the original report which was deemed 'too inflamatory' are online at TMZ.

This is gonna be HUGE!

http://www.tmz.com/

[springhill]

1. I am skeptical of this story...........

Doesn't sound real to me. Just a gut feeling.

[IndianaGreen]

6. Gibson's dad is a Holocaust denier

What I am surprised is that Mel Gibson was drunk, after all of his holier than thou crap.

[liberalnurse]

31. Some where in the back of my mind....

I thought he was a "recovering alcoholic" since the 80's???? If so, he apparently is in relapse......or just like *bush......a closet drunk????:shrug:

[Hieronymus]

129. Apparently he was arrested in 1983 on a DUI and pled guilty.

He went to AA in 1991.

[sgxnk]

67. bogus

please show me where mel has claimed to be holier than thou, or anybody

in fact, i recall when asked about why he used his hand as the one that nailed jesus to the cross in his movie, he said it was because he wanted to express the notion that (according to him) we were all guilty

i have seen no evidence he is holier than thou

[Lurking Dem]

86. Does forming his own

Catholic church because he felt the current incarnation was from the devil count?

[sgxnk]

87. no

it means he disagree with doctrine

was martin luther holier than thou?

he essentially did the same thing

fwiw, *if* this police report turns out to be true, and he did say these absurd things, he is truly an anti-semitic loon

[Zhade]

97. Funny you should mention Martin Luther, who was VERY anti-Semitic.

Coincidence, I'm sure.

[asthmaticeog]

146. Well, you know who *wasn't* anti-semitic back then? Jews. (nt)

[TankLV]

113. He has claimed that "jeebus" saved him - that's why he's a holier than tho

super duper Catholic - and one of those that has his own "church" and follows some right-wing sect - I think it wants to follow the "latin only" mass.

If that's not "holier than thou" crap, then we have a different definition of that concept.

[Fridays Child]

14. According to the report, at least some of his bad behavior was videotaped.

[progdonkey]

33. PLEASE tell me they got the "sugar-tits" comment on tape!

:rofl: :rofl:

I so hope this is a factual report and a videotape not only exists but will be released/leaked.

Just wait, though, for all the Fundies to start expressing how "proud" they are that poor Mel's "atoning for his behavior in conference with the Lord," or some such shit.


"Mel Gibson was trying to express--through cinema--the horror and filthiness of the common Jew." -- Cartman, South Park, "The Passion of the Jew."

[MADem]

104. Funny thing, though, is that Mel's doctrine actually regards those Fundies

who adore him so much as a bunch of heretical retards, who are doomed to burn in the fires of hell if they don't submit, at once, to his one, true Universal church....just like all the Protestants and Jews and Muslims and other assorted "heathens"....think back, before Vatican II, before you could eat a hotdog on Friday and not get zapped by lightning...that was the flavor!!! And ole Mel is pre-Vatican II all the way--Latin mass, and then some!

[suziedemocrat]

134. really?

I'm one of those raised Catholic by a converted mother and not so into church father,and now I'm pretty much turned off all religion, and I know next to nothing about pre-vatican 2. Still, I'm beginning to realize my brand of Catholicism is not the only brand. I've run into my fair share of fundie Catholics. They are just as scary as fundie Muslims, Protestants, and Jews. I always thought most Jewish people were for the most part secular liberals. Then I ran into a fundie Jew. Scary. IMO - any religion is bad if the dose is too big. Even new-agers get on their high horse and irritate the crap out of me sometimes.

[MADem]

138. He's actually the subject of a scholarly work on the matter

http://www.unomaha.edu/jrf/2004Symposium/Lawler.htm

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

47. If that videotape comes out

and it has antisemetic slurs on it, than Gibson's career is over

[Raine]

28. I'm in Los Angeles

it's a big story here in fact it was at the very top of the news. They showed the report with some stuff blacked out, had one of their investigative reporters hot on the story. Sounds like Mel really went ape-shit, resisting arrest, hurling bigoted and sexist insults at the cops also yelled "I own Malibu!" Mel made a real ass of himself, reporter was speculating on if it would hurt his career.

[Hieronymus]

32. Sexist yes, "sugar tits" was one of the expressions he used.

www.tmz.com

[zonkers]

34. Don't know how hurt his career can be if he pocketed 500 mio from POTC but

I guess it can make him a pariah. But I think the movie business is so slimey, it won't really matter.

[SquireJons]

141. Hollywood only remembers your last movie

And I think his new movie, Apocalypto is going to bomb. Most Americans have no patience for movies with subtitles and couldn't care less about history or foreign native cultures. He won't have his fundies backing him on this one and he paid for the production of the movie himself. My guess is that he'll lose the lions share of the money he made from POTC on this one.

Having said all that, I look forward to seeing it when it comes out - even though I haven't liked anything he has done since Braveheart.

[zonkers]

148. I agree.

d

[The Backlash Cometh]

53. He who wraps himself up in the Lord's robe, had better have the best

intentions at heart.

[theguvnorgc]

81. and they rearely do

Rarely, with a capital R.

[TankLV]

115. In fact, they are usually the worst hypocrits.

Lie, cheat, steal and demand EVERYONE ELSE be "perfect" - just like they see themselves!

[progressivebydesign]

95. Doubt he'll be hurt by it... here's why...

1) look who the governor of California is. the gropinator. 'nuff said.
2) people who believe that Gibson is all holy, also believe that any drunken-ass, creepy, sexist, illegal, behavior is just satan tempting him.
3) All he has to do is a Jim Bakker or Jimmy Swaggart and he'll be back in his fans good graces. That's the beauty of religions that don't require you to be responsible for your own behavior.
4) Most of the movie going public.. well.. they're morans mostly. Think back to some of the top grossing movies. Again, 'nuff said.
5) This will be framed by the right wing nutjobs who suddenly love Mel cuz of the Passion, as another attempt by the liberal media to harm someone that loves God.

[SaveElmer]

45. I am very skeptical...

These four pages have no marks identifying them as official in any way...anyone could have written this, crumpled and tore the pages...then scanned them...

This just does not sound right, and there is no credible evidence at all!!!

[hang a left]

50. Police reports take 3 days to get filed.

It's bullshit.

[MnFats]

85. not where I come from.....maybe 12 to 24 hours..

...quicker on a hot case. And I spend a lot of time with cops.

[sgxnk]

89. and i write

and have written hundreds of police reports

to put it bluntly... it depends how long it takes, depending on the agency

what the poster may be confusing is that prosecutors/cops have a 72 hour window AFTER arrest, and when a suspect is in custody (which is irrelevant to the current case) to file CHARGES

but that's totally not relevant here

[progressivebydesign]

94. nope, it's real. The lingo on the original document is authentic.

Read the pdf on that link the OP provided. Oh.. it's real.

[mother earth]

117. How can you tell from the link? First of all, it's beyond difficult

to read & secondly, how can you say without a doubt it's authentic?

[mother earth]

110. Glad you said this, springhill, I agree. Sounds like media hype

and a lot of garbage. What kind of fool would Mel be & with a new movie looming around the corner, I doubt very much this is true.

[liberaltrucker]

2. Top-notch actor

But lower than whale shit as a human being.

:puke:

[wagthedogwar]

4. Hey, it could be worse...

wait until he turns to Scientology


I'm clear! I'm clear!

[liberaltrucker]

9. .....

:rofl:

Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[WCGreen]

44. Top notch actor.....

Did you see Hamlet.....

He plays the same freakin' ass hole in every movie....

[Erika]

3. Geez, after he played the role of Jesus, the Jew

Christ, the Jew, made him countless millions in his portrayal.

[RebelOne]

27. He didn't play the role of Jesus.

He produced the movie. Another actor was Jesus.

[sgxnk]

69. yup

shows you yet another example of how most of the gibson hate comes from pure ignorance

hate coming from ignorance? wow. what a novel concept (rolls eyes)

[Ratty]

111. Not ignorance. Evidence

http://www.answers.com/topic/mel-gibson#Accusations_of_homophobia

'In the interview, when asked what he thought of gay people, he said, "They take it up the ass." Gibson then bent over and pointed to his buttocks, saying "This is only for taking a shit."'

[smtpgirl]

5. posted on another thread,

Gibson - all hat, no cattle, any questions?

After passion of the christ, that guy sucks, I'd rather watch Caligua or Gladiator, better cinematography

[TankLV]

123. As a gay man myself, I enjoy objectifying him - there are some great pics

of him stark neekid that we can drool over.

Wonder why he posed for all those "gay" shots, hmmmmm...

But it is like looking at a plactic blow-up doll - shit for brains and prejiduces masquerading as beliefs...

[Hieronymus]

128. Damn, I couldn't get the pictures. :(

Gibson was arrested for DUI in Toronto in 1983 and pled guilty in 1984. He went to AA in 1991, so apparently he is in relapse. He's known to be homophobic.

[Botany]

140. As a straight guy I think Mel is ready to come out.

"I will fuck you." To the deputy that was arresting him.

A K A "The Passion for the Cop."

[maddezmom]

7. RadiDem please edit the your subject line

to reflect actual title: "Gibson's Anti-Semitic Tirade -- Alleged Cover Up"

[MADem]

8. TMZ is that new site specializing in stalking stupid celebrities, yes?

"Thirty Mile Zone" of greater Hollywood is their territory?

They've not been around long enough to have any sort of reputation, beyond the salacious. The Jews were only one target of many--he went after a female deputy, the cops, the phone...a real charmer, that fellow!!!!

And "Sugar Tits" is a new one on me!!!

"My life is f****d." Law enforcement sources say the deputy, worried that Gibson might become violent, told the actor that he was supposed to cuff him but would not, as long as Gibson cooperated. As the two stood next to the hood of the patrol car, the deputy asked Gibson to get inside. Deputy Mee then walked over to the passenger door and opened it. The report says Gibson then said, "I'm not going to get in your car," and bolted to his car. The deputy quickly subdued Gibson, cuffed him and put him inside the patrol car.

Once inside the car, a source directly connected with the case says Gibson began banging himself against the seat. The report says Gibson told the deputy, "You mother f****r. I'm going to f*** you." The report also says "Gibson almost continually threatened me saying he 'owns Malibu' and will spend all of his money to 'get even' with me."

The report says Gibson then launched into a barrage of anti-Semitic statements: "F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." Gibson then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"

The deputy became alarmed as Gibson's tirade escalated, and called ahead for a sergeant to meet them when they arrived at the station. When they arrived, a sergeant began videotaping Gibson, who noticed the camera and then said, "What the f*** do you think you're doing?"

That said, if this http://cdn.digitalcity.com/tmz_documents/gibson_wm_docs_072806.pdf is a forgery, I'd be rather surprised. Who in their right mind would expose themselves to litigation from a guy with such deep pockets?

Question: Will the mainstream media cover this, and do it in sufficient detail so people LEARN what he is alleged to have said???

[maddezmom]

10. interestingly UPI has quoted TMZ

:shrug:
http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060729-014851-1137r

[MADem]

11. Ooops...he's TOAST. That's the Moonie News Service that Helen

Thomas quit when the insane Reverend bought it. It's the GOP "go to" wire service. Wonder what Mel did to piss them off??? Or maybe they realized that the horse was well out of the barn already, and were just hopping on the bandwagon...!

[Erika]

12. Ah, the wonder of the internet(s) news sources n/t

[RadiDem]

16. The editor, Harvey Levin was a very well regarded investigative reporter

AND a lawyer, here in L.A.

TMZ is afilliated with AOL.

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001656883

[MADem]

17. Well, like I said, it has "no reputation" (yet, anyway)

They haven't been around long enough to be viewed as a GO TO source for both breaking AND completely VALID gossip. We know, for example, that when we go to the Smoking Gun, we are going to get documents that were FOIA'd and they are accurate representations of court filings and police reports.

This site, being new yet, seems to make most of its juice off of video of celebrities behaving badly--kind of hard to fake that, really. It looks like they managed to get those redacted bits of the police report, attached as PDFs to the main story, from a "source" within the department. And they do look real.

That said, I doubt that they'd expose themselves to litigation if the four pages weren't well-steeped in actual fact. But we don't know for absolute certain, unless and until those redacted four pages are included with the rest of the arresting documentation.

With this shit hitting the fan, they likely will be...!

[brook]

82. Without OJ

nobody would have ever heard of Harvey Levin. In today's celebrity crazed world, he's just another ambulance chaser.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

21. Geez! What was his BAC?

If that's true, he must have been hammered!

[MADem]

25. I think the report said he blew a twelve; point oh-eight being the cutoff

[madeline_con]

The answer to your last question is probably not. n/t

[RebelOne]

38. The site that stalks celebrities is Gawker.com.

[idgiehkt]

68. or jossip.com, or perezhilton.com, or thesuperficial.com

or any of the other various sundry internet sites. I actually like gawker better than the others.

[MADem]

99. No, I meant with VIDEO--that is their schtick

TMZ stands for THIRTY MILE ZONE, the area in greater Hollywood where they ply their trade. They like to get video of celebrities doing stupid things...that's their stock-in-trade.

GAWKER doesn't focus on video, and specializes in Manhattan gossip, so it's a different flavor.

[Julius Civitatus]

160. Sorry, but TMZ is specialized on stalking celebrities

Gawker does list celebrity sightings. TMZ stalks celebrities and pushes them into nasty situations.

TMZ just stalks. That's all they do: they stalk celebrities with videocameras and push the envelope to provoke a reaction from their victims. They are really nasty in their modus operandi. They basically manufacture gossip and scandal by becoming the news.

One of their most famous stunts was to stalk and harass Woody Harrelson and his family until he snapped. Of course, his snapping became the news, not the guy that followed him and his family 24/7 with a camcorder.

I think it's a nasty way to conduct business, and highly unethical.

[Hieronymus]

132. freerepublic.com carried the TMZ story.

[TomInTib]

13. Next, he'll blame it all on Manischewitz (or however you spell it)

"And don't some home again with them grape skins between your teeth"

apologies to Townes Van Zandt

[MADem]

18. He wuz drinkin' tequila in a brown paper bag, though

So we'll have to blame....THE MEXICANS!!!!!!!!!!

[longship]

15. All fundementalists are *EVIL*

This includes fundie Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Jews, and all the rest.
The extent to which they adhere to a fundementalist ideology is the extent to
which they are a threat to all mankind.

There are many people of these sects who are reasonable and tolerant. Let them
be the religious leaders. Not the fundie knuckleheads.

There will be no peace until we triumph over fundementalism
and bring a new enlightenment to the world.

[Erika]

19. This is where I vote for atheism

We've had enough wars, hatred, slander based on religious bigotry.

[acmavm]

48. Oh knock it off. There are a LOT of DUers like me that believe in God.

We are not evil, nor are we stupid, and we are certainly not 'fundies'.

It is when religion becomes 'organized' that it becomes more interested in its own agenda and less concerned with the original message.

[progressivebydesign]

96. the post said "fundamentalists". Mel is a fundamentalist.

Why do christians always get their panties in a wad when someone points out the ridiculous hypocrisy of the fundamentalists? If you're not one, then why are offended?

[LostinVA]

116. Agreed -- he is a Fundamentalist Catholic

They scarily do exist... although, just remember that Gibson's views are so extreme the Church condemns them. He had to build his own church and have his own "uncatholic" priest. If it was ANYONE but Gibson, they would have been excommunicated. He actually should be, because he is NOT Roman Ca5tholcic.

All my RC relatives think he's a nutjob, and some Religious I know think he's that AND a Freeper.

[progressivebydesign]

133. Is that part of the Opus Deil crowd?

I don't know a ton about fundamentalist Catholics, but they do tend to frighten me.. there's something so Middle Ages about them.

[LostinVA]

135. I would say yes, but Gibson isn't part of that

He doesn't believe in the contemporary RC Church -- there's a cult of "Catholics" who consider Vatican 2 to be "of Satan," and refuse to recognize anything past the SEcond Vatican Council.... they believe lots of bonker things, including that Jews are evil and murdered the Christ. They've pretty much all been excommunicated... except for Gibson and his merry band. Even though I am an ex RCer, I wrote "my" Cardinal about why The Church didn't ecomm him.... no answer!

[acmavm]

163. Because a 'vote for atheism' is a vote for intolerance of any religious

belief period.

[donsu]

62. I'll second that

nt

[sgxnk]

70. lol. classic ignorance

and yes, the atheist regimes of the USSR and communist china were such great bastions for peace

incredible

it's a human thang, it aint a religion thang

scores of millions slaughtered by Mao and Stalin ALONE

clearly, atheism is the answer lol

[Bjorn Against]

90. Stalin was NOT atheist...

Yes he first tried to stamp out religion in order to suit his own purposes, because he thought if he could crush people's religion he could crush their spirit.

When it suited his ends however he was all for religion, and he proved that by reinstating the Orthodox Church heirarchy.

Freewill is a key componant of atheist belief, and neither Stalin nor Mao believed in freewill. They were not atheists they were simply people out to do everything they could to be all powerful.

I am not atheists, but I know people who are and I don't like to see them smeared by comparisions to Stalin and Mao.

[sgxnk]

107. lol

you don't like to see people who are atheists "smeared by association", yet you smear religious people in the same breath and that's ok

here's a hint

freewill is as much a component of religious belief as it is to atheist belief

so, that comment was simply nonfactual

arguably, MOREso (some people theorize freewill is illusory, and they tend to be atheists)

the fact is that both the USSR and chinese communists were officially atheist, they (in many cases) criminalized worship and worshippers, and they murdered scores of millions in the names of their utopian regimes

the gulags were peppered with theists who stood against the soviets

so, the absurd claim that it is RELIGION that causes people to be murderous is absurd and not supported by history

a canard, that becomes no more valid, despite its frequent repetition

[Bjorn Against]

109. When did I smear religious people?

I did not say anything about religious people in my post, an I certainly never said that religion causes people to be murderous. Sure there are people who murder in the name of religion, but I never have believed that religion is the cause of their acts of violence.

You are putting words in my mouth, in other words you are lying.

[SquireJons]

150. Absurd? Hardly...

"so, the absurd claim that it is RELIGION that causes people to be murderous is absurd and not supported by history"

I'm not sure what version of history you are talking about, but if you read anything outside of an elementary school library, you would find that statement to be a joke.

Would you like a few examples?

let's start with recent history...

In Baghdad people carry two id cards, one that says they are Shia, the other says they are Sunni. That way they wont get murdered for being the wrong religion.

In Ireland, the Orange Protestants still like to march in Catholic towns in reminiscence of past military victories over said Catholics. This usually ends in people getting killed. The IRA isn't particularly well known for their peaceful ways either.

How many people have died in the Pakistan/Indian wars? They have been completely about religion. Or the wars against Israel in the Middle East? They are primarily fueled by religious hatred.

And of course there is the mac daddy of them all: the crusades. That may have been the biggest perversion of religion for the purpose of murder of all times. And of course there was the English civil war, the St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre, the Salem witch trials... The list goes on and on. Basically, you don't know what you're talking about.

By the way, using the word 'absurd' twice in the same sentence is redundant.

my favorite quote of all time:

"The Christians, the Jews and the Muslims... they've all got it wrong. There are but two types of people in the world. Those with brains who hold no religion, and those with religion and no brains"

[LostinVA]

118. He actually was a seminarian at one time -- scary

Free Will is also a component of most Christian denominations.

[Zynx]

151. I could disown all Christians who have committed atrocities by the same

standards.

[Zhade]

100. They weren't killed in the name of atheism.

Unlike, say, the Crusades, where people WERE killed in the name of Christ.

[RadiDem]

23. I pretty much agree

[connecticut yankee]

64. And more people

have been killed "in the name of God" than for anything else.

[sgxnk]

72. not in the 20th century

more people were killed LAST century in the name of non-religious (and generally, officially atheist) regimes than in the name of god

so, we can talk ANCIENT history or recent history

the idea that atheism means people will stop slaughtering each other is laughable, and goes against ALL evidence

scores of millions by stalin and mao alone

yup, REAL peaceful

[connecticut yankee]

75. since the beginning of history

[sgxnk]

78. atheism

as any sort of widespread belief system (or lack of belief system) did not exist in any organized widespread scale UNTIL the 20th century

see: Marx et al.

this was a relatively new concept.

regimes like the USSR, Communist China were among the first large atheist regimes

and they proved to be MORE rapacious/murderous/and thuggish on a %age basis than the VAST majority of religious regimes throughout history, from the vikings to the spanish inquisitors

the issue is one of human violence. it aint religions fault

the 20th century is proof positive that utopian visions that eliminating religion would eliminate violence and cruelty are laughably naive

the utter evilness of stalin and mao are proof positive that your theory is bogus

early civilizations were almost universally religious, thus it rationally follows that much killing was done in the name of god, or the gods, or zeus, or odin, or whatever

it was human nature, being justified via religion

in the 20th century, when we finally had atheist alternatives, we saw MORE (on a %age basis) violence committed by officially atheist regimes than by religious regimes

those are undeniable statistical facts. as uncomfortable as they may be for you to acknowledge since it overturns your theory

[Zhade]

102. Atheism is not a belief system.

It is a simple absence of beliefs in gods. Not a "denial", not a belief that gods have been proven to not exist. It's just not believing in them, period.

[VegasWolf]

108. Exactly. Well said and to the point. I am an atheist. nt

[Zhade]

101. Wrong - those under Stalin and Mao weren't killed BECAUSE of atheism.

NT!

[Zynx]

152. Not true. Nationalism has killed many many many times more.

World War I and II were both fought in the name of nation states. The same goes for the Napoleonic Wars and almost every war of the 19th century. Vietnam, Korea, etc were fought based on nationalism. Add up those death tolls and you surpass virtually all other wars put together and then some. The death tolls from the wars of the 20th century are truly mind blowing.

[Marie26]

162. Agreed

And I think that goes for atheist fundamentalists, too. Anyone who thinks their version of the world is the only one possible & tries to force other people to conform is a threat to a democratic society.

[eleny]

20. This is fodder for a South Park episode

Gibson is another gift that keeps on giving. I can see the cutouts of him now.

[RadiDem]

24. I read they made a 'Crazy Mel' episode!

[Dover]

29. .

[Dover]

30. Still crazy after all these years.......>

[RadiDem]

35. The South Park episode is called "The Passion of the Jew"

supposed to be hilarious - about to read the synposis

[TexasLawyer]

52. It was one of the more memorable South Parks

Really funny.

[eleny]

79. They did and he was portrayed as quite crazy

Now there can be a second installment. I bet they're already on it.

[sgxnk]

88. south park

SP is the cutting edge of social and political satire imo

truly genius

[nashville_brook]

22. uh... since when is "entertainment" LBN material?

[RebelOne]

39. I would classify this as news not just entertainment.

[LostinVA]

57. Agreed

[54anickel]

65. I think the news worthy portion is the decision of the police to have

"2 set of books" and their decision of not having his outburst in the "official" report. Their reasoning seems to have been to "protect and serve" the community, and in light of the Seattle shooting it may seem plausible, but was it correct? Turn it around and suppose there was some loco power crazy sheriff altering reports to "protect and serve" himself, or Dimson, or his political beliefs or whatever agenda he might have.

It's the old trust your officials to know what's best for you - sometimes you can, sometimes you can't. Is the action of the sheriff's department commendable or condemnable? :shrug:

From the article:

Deputy Mee then wrote an eight-page report detailing Gibson's rampage and comments. Sources say the sergeant on duty felt it was too "inflammatory." A lieutenant and captain then got involved and calls were made to Sheriff's headquarters. Sources say Mee was told Gibson's comments would incite a lot of "Jewish hatred," that the situation in Israel was "way too inflammatory." It was mentioned several times that Gibson, who wrote, directed, and produced 2004's "The Passion of the Christ," had incited "anti-Jewish sentiment" and "For a drunk driving arrest, is this really worth all that?"

We're told Deputy Mee was then ordered to write another report, leaving out the incendiary comments and conduct. Sources say Deputy Mee was told the sanitized report would eventually end up in the media and that he could write a supplemental report that contained the redacted information -- a report that would be locked in the watch commander's safe.

Initially, a Sheriff's official told TMZ the arrest occurred "without incident." On Friday night, Sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore told TMZ: "The L.A. County Sheriff's Department investigation into the arrest of Mr. Gibson on suspicion of driving under the influence will be complete and will contain every factual piece of evidence. Nothing will be sanitized. There was absolutely no favoritism shown to this suspect or any other. When this file is presented to the Los Angeles County District Attorney, it will contain everything. Nothing will be left out."

[TankLV]

124. When it showcases or highlights the HYPOCRICY of yet another

right - wing wacko, it's "breaking news".

Not a hard concept to most of us...

[Dover]

26. 'Apocalypto' - Mel's next film about the end of Mayan civilization

'Apocalypto' now for Mel, Maya and historians

Dan Vergano
USA Today
Jul. 18, 2006 12:00 AM


Call it "The Passion of the Maya": Mel Gibson is quietly filming a movie in a Mexican jungle about the collapsed civilization.

Given Gibson's cinematic history, experts on the ancient Maya are looking forward to his upcoming epic, "Apocalypto," with a mixture of curiosity and dread. They're pleased that Hollywood will feature a period of world history still little understood but worry that once again a movie may sacrifice historical accuracy for the sake of a good story.

"A lot depends on how well they depict the Maya. It may serve as a really good springboard into a lecture," says archaeologist Lisa Lucero of New Mexico State University in Las Cruces. "Or it may be something we have to nip in the bud in that first lecture...cont'd

http://www.azcentral.com/ent/movies/articles/0718apocalypto0718.html

[WCGreen]

46. Just another excuse for Gibson to soak the silver screen...

in blood....

[The Backlash Cometh]

59. I bet I know why Mel Gibson wants to do a movie on the Mayan culture!

Because their calendar ends in the year 2012, and this would suit Mel's apocalyptic religious beliefs!!! Don't forget, Mel bought an island where he can retreat to live out the last seven years in case the Rapture comes early and he isn't taken away.

[Marie26]

161. Oh, great

Like Gibson cares about Mayan culture. This is probably just an excuse to do an "End Times" - type movie for the fundies. Somehow I think the year 2012 will be prominently featured. Gibson is a typical religious fanatic through & through. If you scratch the veneer of piousness & self-righteousness, the hatred, anger & intolerence come through. Even if you need a couple six-packs to see it.

[w4rma]

36. LOL, wow. He's going to have to show some huge humility after this drunken

show if he ever hopes to sell another mainstream movie again. Along with profuse, *honest* apologies to Jews and women. Whew.

[puffthemagicdragon]

37. this even made the news ticker at BBC n/t

[MADem]

106. Editor and friken PUBLISHER has it, too!!!!!!

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1002914830

NEW YORK Did police in Malibu, Ca., try to cover up an anti-Semitic tirade, and other actions, by actor Mel Gibson after his arrest for drunk driving on Friday? The fact of his arrest became public quickly enough but what happened next only emerged today.

The New York Daily News opened its story today with: "A blitzed Mel Gibson launched into an obscenity-laced tirade when he was busted on suspicion of drunken driving early yesterday, threatening an officer and making anti-Semitic and sexually abusive remarks, according to a police report."

It seems that the full report was suppressed but four pages of it were leaked to the celebrity Web site tmz.com, which posted them today. The Daily News claims that a mug shot of the actor has also been withheld under orders from the sheriff.

Gibson had been pulled over by Deputy James Mee in the wee hours early Friday for going 80 mph and then tested DUI. ...."Reached for comment on TMZ's report last night, Deputy Moore said the department would neither deny nor confirm its content. He could offer no explanation for why Mee's report was withheld from reporters."

[mom cat]

40. Those attitudes are typical of Christo-facists.

[Tellurian]

41. Sounds like Mel doen't know how to channel his frustrations..

He ought to drink a cup of humilty and call Clooney..

Clooney seems to get the job done with the expertise of a
thorasic surgeon. Clooney would be good for Mel if Mel
could back down long enough to give it a go.

[Gully Foyle]

42. Tabloid

Who really gives a shit about this tabloid reporting?
Like the whole "Hoff" incident.
Bad press is better than no press.
Besides there are REAL issues far more important than this.

[LostinVA]

58. I consider this a real issue

Gibson has used his power and money to help forward a RW "Christian" agenda.

Plus, nothing wrong with th veracity of most tabloid reporting -- it's sensational, but usually on the mark.

[oldcoot]

66. If I lived in the L.A. I would be concerned about the cover-up

If I lived in L.A., I would be more concerned about the alleged cover up than I would the arrest. According to the article, it appears that the sheriff's department went to a lot of effort to sanitize the report. I wonder if they would be so willing to do the same thing for a liberal celebrity or anyone else for that matter.

[LostinVA]

121. Or just an ordinary person...

[graywarrior]

43. He has a new movie coming out.

He took PR lessons from Tom Cruise.

[ovidsen]

49. Mad Maxx - Beyond Thunderbird

He was this out of control and he only "blew" an 0.12???

That's too drunk to be driving but not so drunk that you haven't preserved a little self-control. Unless you're one of those Jekyll/Hyde alcoholics.

"Welcome to Hazleden/Ford/Ashley and our 28 day celebrity rehabilitation program".

[BrklynLiberal]

54. ROTFLMAO!!! Well put.

[msanthrope]

61. Bingo---a 1.2 should not produce this behavior, unless you

are on the end of a long slide downwards.

[sgxnk]

74. i agree

i once saw a .464

that BAC is above LD50 levels

.12 is nuttin.

[sueragingroz]

120. when I was a student lawyer

I saw a guy plead guilty to blowing a 400.... ON HIS WAY TO ANOTHER TRIAL FOR BLOWING 350!

Clearly that guy had a drinking problem...

The judge ruminated on how he was even alive - with that much alcohol you are talking blood poisoning.

[The Backlash Cometh]

51. He owns Malibu! And he threatened to fuck up the deputy???

Wow, how blatant can you get? IF THIS STORY IS TRUE, THEN YOU KNOW WHY I'M PISSED OFF ABOUT MY REPUBLICAN COMMUNITY!!!! All the white men in this area which hold any kind of public office have this plantation owner mentality.

What balls. I'm just pissed because some lady just dropped off pamphlets for her husband's campaign run and the son of a bitch hit every Republican hot button. Member of the Rotary Club, the "right" church and a long-time business man who wants to "Develop a business-friendly city." Christ. If this city were any more business friendly I'd be drinking dioxin water. Oh, and he also wanted to improve public service WITHOUT RAISING TAXES!!!! HAHAHAHAHA. The guy is on some serious drugs.

[brentspeak]

55. This is not a news story, it's a gossip item

[springhill]

63. Absolutely right.........

Until proven, I remain skeptical.

[idgiehkt]

71. can someone file a FOIA?

I want to see the original report. I disagree it's not news. Were it not for the cultural earthquake known as "The Passion of the Christ" I'd say it's gossip. Because of that, and the war going on right now, I'd say it's very much news.

On the contrary, my local station keeps running a snippet every hour about a local teacher arrested for having child pornography on his computer, running his name and picture. Because he's not a public figure and hasn't been proven guilty yet (hasn't made an admission of the crime) I have very mixed feelings about this.

But it looks like Gibson made an admission of anti-semitism and considering who he is, it's very relevant.

[LostinVA]

56. If true, what a big "surprise" -- look at who his Dad is

And Mel has refused to condemn his father's beliefs... I understand not condemning his Dad, but his horrible beliefs??? Why does this surprise anyone? He has soon himself over and over again to be a major Freep -- his views and ideas on gays, women, etc. are horrible. Just saying you don't like Bush or the invasion of Iraq doesn't sudden;y make him liberal

Plus, he's a hypocrite, like every other religious zealot I know.

[hedgehog]

60. Reminds me of some folks in the family

I never spent much time around the family drunks but I was around them enough that I have never wanted to try alcohol. Aside from about a tiny glasses of Irish Mist at one or two Christmases and when Nixon resigned and a sip of champagne at my wedding, I've stayed away from the stuff. No one has to tell me that alcohol does as much or more damage as any illegal drug! Some people can handle it, but some just need to stay away!

[Vinnie From Indy]

73. This post is BS

Why would you post such unsubstantiated nonsense?

[idgiehkt]

76. I don't think it's 'unsubstantiated' that Gibson

maybe anti-semitic. He gives all the correct code answers when asked about the holocaust, for example. I guess the mods will lock it if it's not LBN, but at this point, it's completely believable.

[progressivebydesign]

98. Ummm... did you read the report? Did you read the document?

How could someone say it's unsubstantiated. The document is real.. the story is real. Do you not believe that a known drunk would behave aggressively during an arrest? He's been busted for drunk driving before, and frankly, he seems like he's gone off the deep end in the past few years. Why are you in denial?

[Vinnie From Indy]

137. Looks like you are right about Mel!

It is amazing that he is that stupid but booze will do that to a person.

[TankLV]

125. Just like all the torture and abuse, right?

Until the PICTURES came out.

Then it was - "oh, those horrible PICTURES!" and not one word of condemnation of what they PROVED happened!

Right?!

[Name removed]

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[Lyric]

77. This may or may not be true, however...

...I find it difficult to imagine a website setting itself up for a massive libel and slander lawsuit by knowingly publishing false information about an extremely wealthy celebrity. My guess is that this website has every reason to believe the information is true. Otherwise they'll be sued into bankruptcy in very short order.

[Totally Committed]

80. He belongs to a very RW Catholic Group

that still believes that the Jews murdered Jesus. His father has said openly that there was no holocaust. The nam, while a fine actor, and a huge talent is a RW Whackadoo. I don't know if this story is true, but if it is, I will not be shocked in the slightest.

TC

[Blue Gardener]

103. And wifey can't use birth control

Just keep popping out those kids like a Pez dispenser. How many does he have now? And why isn't he being the good family man and staying home with the wife and kids instead of out drinking and driving?

[TankLV]

126. To be fair to them both, maybe, just maybe, they WANT a large family?

A lot of persons do.

I would hardly berate them for THAT.

[tblue37]

83. Am I the only one who thinks that picture of him looks

astonishingly like Saddam Hussein?

[Totally Committed]

84. Maybe this was all just a wacky PR stunt...

to convince a movie studio he should play Saddam Hussein? :rofl:

You're right, though... It's creepy.

TC

[ima_sinnic]

91. Hussein-Gibson comparison was posted on a blog back in Oct.

from tarfumes: http://www.tarfumes.com/blog/2005_10_01_blogarchive.html

[progressivebydesign]

93. My Mom just mentioned that.. shit he could play him in a biopic! n/t

[progressivebydesign]

92. It's for real folks.. read the original document at the OP's link.

Total BS how they sugarcoated it for him... that's Hollywood for ya.

I love Gibson's info on Wikepedia, totally leaves out the drunken episodes in bars with all the women he was cavorting with.

[Jackson Roykirk]

105. Mel's mess

It will be interesting to see how this plays out.

If all this is true,(a BIG IF, at this point) my concern is more with the police coverup which is a far worse thing than Mel's tirade (which, if it did happen, is truly awful, and stupid on his part).

I doubt this will hurt Mel's standing in Hollywood, for after all, self-admitted child molester Roman Polansky is lionized, and repeatedly hired, by the Hollywood elite.(In case no one remembers, Polansky admitted under oath to drugging and molesting an underage girl).If the creeps in H-wd think they can make a buck, they'll hire anyone.

If Mel never made ANY anti-semitic comments, and that portion of the story IS made up, some people will never accept that because they have their own agenda concerning Mel.

As I said, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.

[bronxiteforever]

130. He just issued apology for his"despicable statements"-la times

His words not mine-given his father is a Holocaust denier and (I have heard him interviewed), it is likely that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree-It would also explain why he let Pilate off the hook in the "Passion". Crucifixion was a Roman method of execution not a Jewish one.

[brentspeak]

112. I don't see a signature or even a name of a police officer filing

the alleged report. So can you tell us how is it "for real"?

[depakid]

131. Obviously, there's no way to know

just yet. Wouldn't be hard for someone with a little knowledge to fake pages out of a police report.

In any case, his attorney's job now is probably to counsel Gibson to take his lumps and make this go away very quiety. The standard disposition on those cases isn't particularly onerous.

[Ratty]

114. Gibson's statement on his arrest

http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/entertainment/15153964.htm

"After drinking alcohol on Thursday night, I did a number of things that were very wrong and for which I am ashamed. ..."

"I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested, and said things that I do not believe to be true and which are despicable."

[LostinVA]

119. "In wine is truth"

Bullshit he doesn't think what he said is true....

[VegasWolf]

122. Gibson is a religious nutcase. He believes in sky people. Enough said. nt

[depakid]

127. Edited- found the BAC

Tequila makes some people crazy- but absent other circumstances, a .12 usually isn't enough to cause this sort of whack behavior. Of course, there may be other substances involved.

[brooklynite]

139. Does anyone else notice a resemblance?

Mel Gibson




Saddam Hussein

[Bucky]

143. That's a cheap shot

Saddam isn't batshit crazy and you shouldn't imply that he is.
(Oh. And of course Gibson hasn't killed anybody. That's worth noting, too)

[Skittles]

142. his actions were despicable

but he sounds like he is taking responsibility for them, which is quite rare these days. I hope he gets his alcoholism under control; it is a terrible disease.

[stumblnrose]

144. He sounds like scum

How is he taking responsibility? By saying he's taking responsibility. If he only blew a 1.2 then there must be a lot of hate in his heart to go off on women and Jews and...One of my fave AA sayings is: "You can take the drink away from a horse thief, but he's still a horse thief."

[Skittles]

149. like I said, I've never liked him

I dislike his homophobia but I do sympathize with alcoholics

[LostinVA]

153. A bigot is a bigot, drunk or sober

Sober, they can just hide it better....

[lebkuchen]

145. He said all that on .12?

He must have a low tolerance threshold for "the stuff."

You're drunk in Germany if you test at .05. In Australia it's around .15 to be considered a serious offense though I suppose that depends on what comes out of the suspect's mouth.

[OneBlueSky]

147. coverup confirmed . . .

I read about the Gibson DUI incident in three different daily papers today, and not one even hinted at the anti-Semitic tirade . . .

[Julius Civitatus]

159. Coverup? Bullshit. How about TMZ is pulling a stunt?

TMZ has the reliability of the National Enquirer. How can people so quickly take what a BS gossip rag like TMZ says, a website specialized on manufactured scandal.

But sure, let's make it a "coverup"

:eyes:

[4bucksagallon]

154. looks like another chickenhawk to me.

Daddy moved to australia in 1968 probably to protect little Mel from the draft would be my guess
http://www.scms.ca/hbmelg.html

-Some sources give 1951 as the year of birth.
-Studied Acting at NIDA (National Insitutute of Dramatic Art), University of New South Wales, NSW, Sydney, Australia
-(October 1997) Ranked #12 in Empire (UK) magazine's "The Top 100 Movie Stars of All Time" list.
-(1996) Chosen by People (USA) magazine as one of the 50 most beautiful people in the world
-His father, Hutton Gibson, moved the family from upstate NY to Sydney, New South Wales, Australia in 1968 after winning as a contestant on "Jeopardy".

Funny most searches for his bio. list his dob as 1956 but this site says sources give it as 1951, I wonder.

[brentspeak]

167. No, you're completely wrong

Gibson is opposed to the Iraq War, so how is he a "chickenhawk"?

[Vinca]

155. Oh well, he was an asshole anyways.

My concern is his drunken puss will be all over the news from now until forever, taking the place of what's-his-face who recently "outed" himeself. Any excuse not to cover IRAQ. (I sent an email to CNN this morning, asking if the Iraqi war was over since they weren't reporting on it anymore.)

[MarinCoUSA]

156. KCBS Sun AM not reporting remarks anti-Semitic remarks

report quoting only part of press spokesman's remarks!

[cgrindley]

157. Debate over Passion now moot... certainly anti-semitic filth

I can't wait to rub this in the face of fundies. It's the final nail in the Passion is anti-semitic argument.

[Julius Civitatus]

158. Beware: TMZ is NOT a RELIABLE source

TMZ is a rumor-mill, a gossip medium with a reputation for inflammatory crap at the level of the National Enquirer.

Take it with a grain of salt the size of mount Everest.

[FourStarDemocrat]

164. Full Story HERE:

Hopefully this will provide more evidence for the doubters among us.

http://www.deadlinehollywooddaily.com/


Update: No Cover up in Police Report

Lt. Steve Smith, in charge of the detective bureau for the Malibu/Lost Hills station of the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department, confirmed to me just now that "the contents seem to be similar" between the official reports and the four pages posted by TMZ.com on the Internet alleging Mel Gibson "blurted out a barrage of anti-Semitic remarks" -- "fucking Jews" and "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world" and asking the arresting deputy "Are you a Jew?" -- during his DUI arrest early Friday morning. Smith denied TMZ.com's charge that the sheriff's department was involved in a "cover-up" of Gibson's alleged anti-Semitic tirade detailed in deputy Jim Mee's first arrest report. "TMZ has learned that the Los Angeles County Sheriff's department had the initial report doctored to keep the real story under wraps," the website claims. But Smith told me emphatically, "There's no whitewash. I've seen the first report, and the supplemental report, and it looks to be the same thing as what's on the Internet. The contents that are on the Internet are covered in both those reports." That is the first official confirmation from the Sheriff's station that Gibson's alleged anti-Semitic rants are included in the official reports about his DUI arrest.

.....Lt. Smith told me that it is the station's normal procedure not to release the arrest report until it's submitted to the District Attorney's office for possible action. Also, according to procedure, Deputy Mee's report, he said, was reviewed by the filing detective "to see if there's maybe corrections or additions or elements of the crime that should have been included, or just additional information that wasn't known at the time of the report. And then a supplementary report is generated because that's the proper way to add information to the first report. In this case, the original report had a lot of this nuance in it: how Mr. Gibson was conducting himself and behaving. Traditionally, in a drunk-driving arrest, or any type of arrest, the deputy wants to paint a picture of what he's dealing with at the time. And, the reason for that is it helps the detective or the D.A. to put the contact into some sort of context. The other purpose for describing the context is that it assists the deputy in remembering the incident when the court case can be four, or six, or eight months down the road." (Deputy Mee has declined to comment about his report.)


LA County Sheriff's Department public information officer, deputy Paul D. Schrader, also denied to me there has been any attempt to cover-up Gibson's alleged anti-Semitic rantings. "We're not sterilizing anything. We would not sanitize a report. We don't edit reports." He also denied any favors were being done for the celebrity. "Basically, Mr. Gibson was not given any preferential treatment."


Among the allegations within TMZ.com's four pages, Gibson "angrily stated" that "'My life is fucked'" and "became fixated on his notoriety and concern that the incident was going to be publicized." The celebrity became "belligerent' and "threatened" the deputy, saying "'I'm going to fuck you. You're going to regret you ever did this to me.'" Then, Gibson "blurted out a barrage of anti-Semitic remarks about 'Fucking Jews.' Yelled out 'The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world.' Then asked, 'Are you a Jew.' Conduct concerned and frightened me to a point. I called ahead to the station requesting a sergeant meet the arrival of my patrol car in the station parking lot..."

~more at above link

[Ratty]

166. Refereshing. But what an asshole

I have been so annoyed that Hollywood has continued to worship this man for so many years. He's remained a huge sex symbol, his name is synonymous with hottest man on earth in TV and movies. But most of us have known about his homophobic, anti-abortion, fundamentalist, sexist tirades for years. How can people be so blind? It's infuriating.

I think he did and said everything they claim. I think the LAPD is covering it up because of all the support Gibson has given them over the years. And yet I'll say it's nice to see such a healthy dose of skepticism on DU these days. What a refreshing change.

[DemsRBetterLovers]

169. Anti-semetic remarks wouldnt have even gone in the report

it would have just said "suspect resisted" or "did not remain silent"

[Judi Lynn]

165. Gibson arrest sparks new accusations of anti-Semitism (Reuters)

Gibson arrest sparks new accusations of anti-Semitism
16 minutes ago

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The arrest of Mel Gibson for drunk driving prompted renewed accusations on Sunday that the Oscar-winning director and actor harbored anti-Semitic feelings.

Gibson, whose controversial 2004 film "The Passion of the Christ" was a major hit, was arrested in the early hours of Friday morning for allegedly driving his 2006 Lexus at 87 mph (140 kph) along the Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu, the beach town north of Los Angeles.

Celebrity Web site TMZ.com posted portions of what it called the arresting deputy's original report, which said Gibson was abusive, shouted anti-Jewish slurs and boasted that he "owned Malibu."

The TMZ report quoted Gibson as saying, "F..... Jews. The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world." He then asked the deputy, "Are you a Jew?"
(snip/...)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060730/us_nm/gibson_dc

[Ilsa]

168. MSNBC is going to cover the anti-semitic tirade as well.

Coming up next on MSNBC, if it hasn't already been covered. Says the arresting or booking officer has audiotape of the whole event.

[sgxnk]

170. Gibson is a KOOK

it appears much more obvious at this point, that the anti-semitic statement claims are true

Mel is a KOOK

[Judi Lynn]

Sorry, dupe. n/t

[Judi Lynn]

171. Gibson struggles with alcoholism and anti-Semitic

Posted on Sun, Jul. 30, 2006
Gibson struggles with alcoholism and anti-Semitic
SANDY COHEN
Associated Press

LOS ANGELES -- Mel Gibson issued a lengthy statement apologizing for his drunken driving arrest and saying he has battled alcoholism throughout his life.

The actor and "The Passion of the Christ" director also apologized for what he said were "despicable" statements he made to the deputies who arrested him early Friday on Pacific Coast Highway in Malibu.

"I acted like a person completely out of control when I was arrested," he said in a statement issued by his publicist.

"I disgraced myself and my family with my behavior, and for that I am truly sorry. I have battled with the disease of alcoholism for all of my adult life and profoundly regret my horrific relapse." He said he was taking "necessary steps to ensure my return to health."
(snip/...)

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/breaking_news/15159669.htm