Democrats say GOP is assisting Casey foe (Santorum staff collected sigs)

[Rose Siding]

HARRISBURG - Six staffers on Sen. Rick Santorum's campaign - including an intern who tailed Democratic candidate Bob Casey Jr. in a duck costume - collected voter signatures to help place the Green Party on the fall ballot.

The intern, petitions show, collected signatures from voters in five counties in one day.

T.J. Rooney, the state Democratic Party chairman, and other Democrats disclosed details of the petition drive that they said offered further evidence of involvement from Santorum supporters to get Carl Romanelli, the Green Party's Senate candidate, on the ballot. Not only did Santorum aides help collect signatures for Romanelli, but Republicans and Santorum supporters put more than $60,000 into the petition drive.

It's examples such as the apparent one-person, five-county petition tour - plus unregistered voters, multiple signatures by the same person, and fake names - that could form the basis of a challenge, Rooney said. John Michael Glick - the Santorum intern who has worn a duck costume to hound Casey for "ducking" issues - appeared to have collected signatures in Beaver, Washington, Fayette, Juniata, and Schuylkill Counties, Rooney said.

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/15203194.htm

[Tom Joad]

1. Casey is assisting this signature drive by opposing women's fundamental

rights.

[Metta]

4. That's our main concern. Overall, he's day and night compared with Santor

um. The lesser of two weevils.

[ashling]

5. A John O'Brien fan

two weevils LOL

[Metta]

20. I don't catch your cultural reference. ... glad you liked my pun though.

Definitely the lesser of two weevils. :donut: :donut: :hi:

[ashling]

24. Master and Commander

It was used in the movie which was based on the O'Brien series of books.

[Metta]

29. Thanks. I'll look for it.

:hi:

[stray cat]

9. Reject any chace at political clout for "ideological purity"

good play by Santurum to stay in power - if people are going to go green instead of replacing Santurum I guess they deserve Santurum.

[Tom Joad]

11. By supporting the Republican positions, this will mean that there

are no opposition parties.

[w4rma]

26. Politics is about more than one issue.

One more anti-abortion person won't matter in the Senate. Dems can always pull a handful of stragglers on *every* issue from the other side of the isle and that definitely includes popular positions such as pro-choice. They'll be different Republicans depending on the issue, but Dems have to have the leadership positions to be able to do this.

[Tom Joad]

12. None of the people who vote for a Green will be voting for Santurum.

Logic, please?

[DinahMoeHum]

18. The voting machine does not count who you vote against. . .

only who you vote for.

A vote for the Green Party candidate is a vote that's NOT going to Casey the Democrat. Your argument cuts both ways.

:evilfrown:

[MrBenchley]

27. All three of them....Meanwhile

we'll have Green party operatives ratfucking forums and political gatherings and using their antics to discredit "liberals."

[Tom Joad]

10. Casey also helps by being "pro-death" in Iraq.

[LeftCoast]

2. The Green candidate is a railroad industry consultant?!?

Greens! Ya'll gotta get a handle on your party. You've been taken over.

[Mark E. Smith]

3. Greens - The GOP Spoof Party

If it wasn't for Republican money they'd barely exist. And
Al Gore would be president.

[corkhead]

6. I thought Maru said it best...

"Feh. The Green party is Brown to me now."


http://maruthecrankpot.blogspot.com/

[flyarm]

7. this is DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND!

not GREEN UNDERGROUND..

I SUPPORT DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES..

end of story!

i do not and will never support a third party until they decide to stop putting republicans in office! or keeping the republicans in office!

end of story!

and as long as any third party will continue to sell their souls to the reich wing..i will speak out against them!

as long as third parties take neo con money..i will speak out against them!

and as long as any party helps that sick son of a %$$#@ Santorum..i will speak out against them!

again i say..

this is DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND..NOT GREEN UNDERGROUND!

I SUPPORT DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES!

FLY

[Tom Joad]

13. Sounds like a religious fundamentalist, not a thinking person.

[KittyWampus]

15. Actually, ignoring the reality of a two-party system doesn't say much

about ones capacity for thinking.

[Exiled in America]

25. Uhh yeah its DemoCRATIC *NOT* DEMOCRAT Underground

DU is not for democrats only. And the other respondant to your post is right. You do sound like a religious fundamentalist more than a rational free-thinking person.

[flyarm]

30. unfortunately you did not respond to what i was saying!!

i said..
i do not and will never support a third party until they decide to stop putting republicans in office! or keeping the republicans in office!

....so would you continue to support candidates who deliberately help republican neo cons steal elections and help republicans keep a one party system in office?
is that what "you " are saying??

i will not!

i said..

and as long as any third party will continue to sell their souls to the reich wing..i will speak out against them!

..so what are you saying?? you would sell your vote to a candidate that would sell out your values as a green or democrat??

i will not!

i said:

and as long as any party helps that sick son of a %$$#@ Santorum..i will speak out against them!

-so are you saying you will support any green candidate, even if they are using a very bad republican candidate's money and false support to steal an election from a viable democrat candidate .. to be the spoiler of an election??? is that what you are supporting?

i will not!

i will support any democratic candidate that supports my values..

my values are not for sale to anyone!

i only wish i could vote in Conn..and vote for Lamont..because the other candidate sold out my values..and i would never support that..

so why are greens working so hard here at DU to support a man or candidate so willing to sell out your values in PA????

or for that matter why did you support Nader who sold out not only your so called values , but he sold out the American people?

fly

[WhiteTara]

8. I hope the people of PA aren't that stupid

that they would think the Green is real. I wonder if they went to Romanelli's records if they would find he was a used to be registered Republican and the whole thing is a scam.

[Joe Bacon]

14. GREEN = Getting Republicans Elected Every November.

That the truth. Case closed.

[Frances]

16. I stopped arguing with the Greens on this board a long time ago,

but I must respond to your post because I agree that GREEN does mean Getting Republicans Elected Every November.

[nasher]

19. I like that.

[Lindacooks]

21. That's great!

Mind if I borrow it?

[Joe Bacon]

22. Feel free, Linda

Spread it far and wide that we will NOT allow Nader and his fellow nuts to screw America again!

[joefree1]

23. Ha, that is great

The elitist Greens, party of scorched earth politics.

[MrBenchley]

28. LOL!

[Exiled in America]

31. The only problem with Greens is their national vs. local strategy

When a third party goes right to the top and tries to win elections, this is always what happens:

1. They lose.

2. They end up hurting their allies by splitting up the vote and ensuring the election of their enemies

3. If if, by some bizarre change 1 and 2 are wrong, and they did get elected, because they have no base, and no relationship with anyone in either party, they would be ineffective and accomplish none of their aims. No one in Congress would take the administrations call, or move a bit of legislation that was any different than what we hae today.

Which is why political change of the kind third parties would desire begins at the local level. If the Green Party was SERIOUS about changing the country for the better. They wouldn't have a candidate in the 08 national elections. Instead they'd be focusing on school board races and city elections and movement building locally. They would put all of their resources in electing state legislators and creating the FOUNDATION TO SUPPORT A VIABLE RUN FOR BIGGER OFFICES. I know Greens do this stuff - just not enough in my opinion.

If they did that, by the time they were ready to run for national offices they would be a real deal with an actual shot at winning. Which would change the whole dem. vs. green debate completely. We'd be looking at which party has a better stand on the issues, not which party can win, which is all we do now.

[Joe Bacon]

32. Remember what an IDIOT named Ronnie Dugger did to Jean Carnahan?

Green IDIOT Ronnie Dugger repeatedly went after Jean Carnahan and tore her apart. Dugger ensured the election of Jim Talent(less) to the Senate. Typical Green. That's why I despise them so!

[Dogmudgeon]

17. This isn't flying in Pennsylvania

Even a good proportion of our Republicans -- whose numbers are rapidly diminishing -- think Santorum is an assclown. Most of us know full well that the "Green" candidate is a Republican tool. On the other hand, we have a lot of Diebold and ESS voting machines in this state, and the Philadelphia Inquirer was just bought by a coterie of radical conservatives involved in an Opus Dei type organization for Catholic businessmen (I think the group is called Legatus).

Think about the idea of running Greens as spoilers for a moment -- it's Republican/Machiavellian genius, if you could call it that. By fronting Green party candidates -- and grooming phony Greens -- they can cut Democratic wins AND discredit Green politics, whether partisan or ideological. It's positively Rovian!

If Carl Romanelli goes along with this scam, the PA Greens ought to give him the same treatment the Deomcrats of Connecticut are giving "Joementum".

And all is not lost in the Press. In spite of the lurch to the right, the Inqy still has a little journalistic integrity left. Not much, but enough to run several articles on the carpetbagging. The word is out, and Santorum is quickly becoming the most hated politician in Pennsylvania history.

Man-on-dog, indeed!

--p!