Lieberman Concedes and announces he will run as Independent

[adamuu]

He appeared just now on CNN

Candy Crowly said that Lieberman said "Congratulations to the winner, but I will keep running." in part of the concession speech that didn't make it on the air.

Also:
"Insults instead of ideas."
"partisan and polarizing." "not what 'team-lieberman' is about"

Editted to clarify source of info and add quotes.
Editted to add link:
"Lieberman concedes to Lamont, vows to run in November"
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/08/democratic.primaries/index.html

[ckramer]

1. He's a loser

He deserves tonight!

[saigon68]

21. BUSH LITE REJECTED

[ckramer]

65. Wheeeee!

Let's celebrate!

[Blaq Dem]

70. I'm think I'm AROUSED!

But not by that big kiss Bush planted on LIE-berman. This year is off to a great start already.

[ChiciB1]

2. I'm Not Even Watching IT.... n/t

[BlueManDude]

24. I wish I hadn't - it's really bad. n/t

[AnOhioan]

3. He betrayed the party...fuck him

Anyone who votes for that asshole should be ashamed

[PBass]

100. Another "Zell Miller Democrat" ready to stab the Dems in the back (eom)

[w4rma]

4. Totally expected from Sore Loserman.

[Purveyor]

5. Sore Loserman...

[mikelgb]

148. um

why are we posting freeper celebration of the coup?

[silverojo]

152. That's what I was just thinking! n/t

[IronLionZion]

6. But all the power of the DNC will support Ned Lamont

Money will be an interesting factor since Lamont has so much of it.

[NastyRiffraff]

14. Yep, DNC will definitely support Lamont...

But let's see what the DLC will do (probably in the background).

AND...let's see what the Congressional Dems will do (HELLO, Barbara Boxter...I used to like you)

CONGRATULATIONS, CONNECTICUT! Now, let's get to work.

[Tempest]

15. Lieberman will be funded by the Repugs

They want him to play spoiler.

[noyb3]

60. Yes, they want him as the spoiler.

Lieberman took 48% of the Democrat vote tonight. If he gets the same support in November, and just 10% of Republicans cross over to vote for him, he's going to win.

How can we stop this? The seat will stay as a (D), but it won't be who we want.

[merwin]

88. If the vote is split between 1 (R) and 2 (D) then the (R) will

win, no doubt about it.

[Lasher]

102. No that's not right, merwin.

Since May 2 there have been 5 polls of a 3 way race for the Connecticut Senate seat in the general election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connecticut_United_States_Senate_election%2C_2006#General_election

Alan Schlesinger, the Republican candidate, has always come in last and has never come anywhere near being first. It is therefore unlikely that Schlesinger will win. But anything's possible, so this could change between now and November and he could win as you predict. However, it is doubtful that this will occur, which is contrary to your assertion.

[sofa king]

106. My cynical, mistrustful self is still a little worried.

I'm not too worried about Lieberman splitting the ticket. In one sense, he may also be splitting the Republican ticket. If Schlesinger is really lagging in the polls on election day, some bright Republicans might get the idea to ditch Schlesinger and vote for Lieberman, instead. After all, if we dislike him so much, he might suddenly appear as not so bad to Republican voters--a devil they know. I seriously doubt that Lieberman would begin caucusing with the Republicans if he won, so on some issues like Senate control and leadership, we still sort of win even if Lieberman doesn't lose.

No, what concerns me are two things: First of all, I don't know how Connecticut election law works, but it would really suck to discover that if no candidate receives a clear majority then the decision falls into the hands of the (Republican) governor. It could still suck if the decision were to go to the (Democratic) General Assembly, as there is no guarantee that they won't simply hand it back to Lieberman. If anyone could fill me in on that angle, I'd appreciate it.

Second, while Schlesinger has little chance of being fairly elected in real life, with the magic of electronic voting all one really needs is an "air of plausibility" while Diebold does the rest for you. The press is guaranteed to buy the split-ticket explanation and they'll do their best to sell the public on it, too. I expect rampant, nationwide election theft attempts by the Republicans, and the split ticket in Connecticut now has to be on top of the election thieves' list.

[Lasher]

110. We are right to worry

Most of all I want safe Democratic seats everywhere. I've worried about what all this Connecticut turmoil would do in that respect. What we want least of all is for this to end up with a Republican taking this seat.

But I'm feeling better about that lately. As you say, it is highly unlikely that Schlesinger would win in the general election. More than that, all polls indicate that Schlesinger will make a very dismal showing - which makes a sleight of hand coup improbable, IMO.

Now are you ready for some irony? Schlesinger would do better against Lamont in a 2-way race than he would in a 3-way matchup that included Lieberman as an Independent. That's right, Lieberman's participation in the general election as an Independent would actually diminish the possibility that Republicans would pick up this seat. This is according to the latest Quinnipiac University poll that provides results of a 2-way race and a 3-way matchup. Schlesinger got 22% and 9%, respectively.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11385.xml?ReleaseID=940

[Little Star]

138. He did not take 48% of the Dem vote tonight! He had....

plenty of Repugs who switched over long ago so that they could vote in this primary. The only problem Dems have in the CT general will be how many Repugs vote for their boy Joe. Even Faux's Carl Cameron (who was at JL headquarters) said last night that those repugs were there calling themselves Republicans for Joe Lieberman. Our problem will be with them not Dems imho.

[unda cova brutha]

142. we can't stop it. The r's will debold him in.

[elgati]

140. Remember how much his 2000 campaign criticized Nader?

Talk about spoiler!

[iamthebandfanman]

7. who is

whos the republican running in the race ?
could joe pull people from the rethugs , since hes prolly made some moderate republicans love him at the very least ?
if so, this general election in CT could be VEEEEERRRY interesting indeed
heh

[rodeodance]

97. a 3 way race with Joe pulling from the Dems. Not good.

[Lasher]

112. The Republican candidate is Alan Schlesinger

He has almost no chance of winning, either in a 2-way race against Lamont, or in a 3-way matchup that would include Lieberman.

[Jackpine Radical]

8. Jeez, THAT was fast.

Anything to guarantee a pro-war, pro-Zionist/Neocon/Evil Empire vote in the Senate from NJ, I guess.

Or does he adtually have delusions that he's anything but a spoiler for Lamont?

[adriennui]

20. i'm not surprised, he's an opportunist

remember he ran for both VP and the senate at the same time. he was a creep even before the iraq debacle. shows how little confidence he had in 2000.

[Lyric]

30. I think he's just power mad

He couldn't stand the thought of losing power back then, so he hedged his bets and ran for Senate *and* the Vice Presidency.

It's people like that, people who are obsessed with maintaining power at all costs, that are the PROBLEM in our US Congress. People like that are the ones who sell out their constituents at every given opportunity for the sake of maintaining power. When he loses in November, I hope he fades away into penniless obscurity for the rest of his life.

*fuming*

[KamaAina]

34. Joementum will do no such thing!

Anything to guarantee a pro-war, pro-Zionist/Neocon/Evil Empire vote in the Senate from NJ, I guess.

His vote bulwarking Bush**co, should he win, which he won't, would come from CT, not NJ. Big difference. :sarcasm:

[Jackpine Radical]

128. Sheesh--I actually said NJ--I wasn't even drinking.

[Phoonzang]

9. So this means we just lost a Senate Seat...

...if he wins the election.

[onehandle]

10. No. nt

[Jackpine Radical]

17. ...or if he splits the Dem vote.

Good for the pro-war, Mideast Death-Trip side either way.

[Erika]

32. No, it means Lieberman lost the Dem vote n/t

[Doremus]

58. Ah, but I thought the Loserman was such a good Democrat?

A loyal Dem such as he certainly wouldn't caucus with the Repugs, would he? :sarcasm:

[Starlight]

79. I don't consider Lieberman to be a real Democrat anyway. We need to get

these repug subversives out of our party even if it means we lose a seat. As long as the seat is held by a traitor who supports the opposing party, it's not really ours anyway! :banghead:

[NotGivingUp]

132. You are SO right! All the times I've seen msm using Lieberman as the

"democratic viewpoint"...made me sick...democratic viewpoint my ass!!!!!

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

136. We never had his senate seat, BushCo did

He's not a democrat when it matters.

[NorthernSun]

11. Lieberman Concedes Defeat In Senate Race

.S. Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman conceded defeat in the Democratic primary just after 11 p.m. in the bitter Connecticut primary.

But Lieberman pledged to continue his candidacy as an independent in the general election in November

http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-sen-race-0808,0,6578875.story?coll=hc-headlines-home

[BrklynLiberal]

12. Check out his new logo

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1855555

[w4rma]

18. This one?

[shayes51]

126. Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, Joe.

Now is the time to gracefully fold 'em.

[longship]

16. He did NOT concede.

He is continuing to run as a "independant democrat" (note-small "d"), whatever that is.

[sidpleasant]

31. Joe can't run as an "independant democrat"

CT election law prohibits anyone but the official party nominees campaigning under the party names or anything like them in the general election.

[longship]

51. Well, he violated CT law tonight, then.

He declared that he was an "independant democrat".

[TankLV]

69. No - he's a REPUKE democrat - the repukes' favorite democrat!

What an embarassment...

[flamingyouth]

13. Link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060809/ap_on_el_ge/primary_elections

[Just Me]

25. I don't feel bad for Joe. He "quit" serving our people some time ago.

Whether he's able to face that fact or not, is not my problem,...it's HIS problem.

OH!!! AND CONTRARY TO THE CORP MEDILIARS,...HE IS NOT NOT NOT A CENTRIST!!!!

That really pisses me off that the corporacrats perpetuate that freakin' MYTH!!!

A CENTRIST?!?!?!!!!

He is as "center" in the right-wing as any democrat possibly could be.

"MODERATE"?!?!?!!!!!!

I can NOT believe the spewing of such words by "news" agencies. It's nonsense, inaccurate, unreal, total bullshit.

GAWD!!!! This country is driving me nuts with its MISUSE and ABUSE of adjectives, descriptive falsehoods!!!!

GAH! BAH! *shaking head* It's really gotten THAT bad!!!!

[ChiciB1]

137. I Didn't Hear Lie Respond.... But From Reports I Get The Feeling

that far too many people look upon him as ungracious and a very sore loser.

I don't KNOW CT that well, I live in Florida, but it just seems to me that Lie has shown a very nasty side of himself and if I were a voter it would really TURN ME OFF!

There is time yet and we need to keep PUSHING BACK! Lie... really isn't fit IMHO!!!

[saigon68]

155. He loves his mentor the chimpanzee

[LiviaOlivia]

19. He's disgraceful

Smears Lamont and the Dem party. God I can't stand him.

[BlueManDude]

23. I'm ashamed I ever voted for him...

I feel like I need a shower after that speech.

[liberaltrucker]

22. OK, fine...

...then Sen Reid should strip him of all committee assignments.
He's effectively left the Party.

[Miss Chybil]

27. Exactly. nt

[Skittles]

33. he left the party a long time ago

time to cut all ties

[davidinalameda]

52. I was thinking the same thing

let the Repukes find committee assignments for him

[krkaufman]

61. Well, that's true.

If Lieberman's not running as a Democrat, then he shouldn't be holding positions on Senate committees as a Democrat.

[Oerdin]

105. I believe...

That's mostly determined by seniority and in any event for the remainder of this term he is an elected Democrat so it would be hard to take his seat away from him.

What ever you think of Lieberman I think we can all agree that Lamont is badly behind in the polls. Very badly behind. So far behind that I'd say the odds are against him winning though sometimes comebacks are made (think Clinton in 1992). NPR is reporting that there are two main scenarios here 1) Lieberman runs as an independent and likely wins the seat 2) Lieberman runs as an independent but he and Lamont end up running each other down so much that the Republican candidate sneaks in. Looking at the polls the only case where Lamont actually makes it a close race is if Lieberman doesn't run as an independent then it is pretty much a dead heat against the Republican challenger.

Anyway you look at this it has taken a safely Democratic seat held by a guy who voted with the party 90% of the time and it has put that seat in jeopardy. It is hard for me to be happy about that.

[patriotX]

133. Not true...

So far behind that I'd say the odds are against him winning though sometimes comebacks are made (think Clinton in 1992). NPR is reporting that there are two main scenarios here 1) Lieberman runs as an independent and likely wins the seat 2) Lieberman runs as an independent but he and Lamont end up running each other down so much that the Republican candidate sneaks in. Looking at the polls the only case where Lamont actually makes it a close race is if Lieberman doesn't run as an independent then it is pretty much a dead heat against the Republican challenger.

Anyway you look at this it has taken a safely Democratic seat held by a guy who voted with the party 90% of the time and it has put that seat in jeopardy. It is hard for me to be happy about that.

What are you talking about?

If that's what NPR's saying (which I doubt), stop listening to them because they're dead wrong. There's no recent poll that suggests any such thing and the most recent polls show it to be either a Lieberman win in a 3-way run (a very narrow win, with Schlesinger at 9% of the total vote the rest split between them) or Lamont destroying Schlesinger in a 2-way race.

I live in CT and am not being dilluded when I say nobody knows who Schlesinger is. The people who do know who he is know he's got a history of bad gambling and may even be in legal trouble and that the federal republican party has been trying to get him to drop because he's patently incapable of winning this election, but he won't drop because he never does. He's gambling on himself, even if that means he loses.

There is no plausible scenario where the Republican wins the ticket. There is no poll which supports that notion. The only time that scenario has ever come up is in the museful dreamings of neo-con radio jockeys.

And he wasn't nearly as safe a democratic seat as you think. He used his power to harm democratic interests as frequently as to help them... if we lose Joe.. we didn't lose much.

[krkaufman]

146. Voted with the party "90% of the time"

But on the issues that matter most, of late, the guy is solidly hard Right Wing, and maybe even a little deluded. Try this comment on for size...

"... the left wing is taking over, the antisecurity wing." (link)

The old "with friends like Joe, we don't need enemies" line comes to mind.

We don't need Democrats spouting Right Wing lies and spin. It is the peak of pro-security thinking to have the intelligence and insight to know how to responsibly allocate one's resources -- especially when those resources are human lives. The Iraq war was accurately predicted as a distraction to the fight against international terrorism and a danger to our overall security.

As for this Fall, the last poll I saw showed a 40/40 split between Lamont and Lieberman, w/ the Repug at 14%. And... Lamont was waaay behind at the start of this campaign, and look where he is now. There's a looog way to go.

[deacon]

26. 'only real democrats' will vote for lamont

Lieb's been kicked out of our party.

buh bye Joe...

[NVMojo]

28. It's hard to give up so much power that he has abused ...

[Bob3]

29. well let's see how well he does without the Democratic Party

organization to help him along. he's a horrible campaigner and I don't see him improving. And where's the money going to come from? they like winners not losers.

It's going to be very hard to set up an organization in a few weeks.

Putz.

[Erika]

36. Is the Dem party going to fund his run, or the Clinton's

Joe's poison. He got the message a touch too late.

[VP505]

39. Not to

worry, the Repukes will take him under their wing and support his candidacy.

[Erika]

40. He'll lose the independents and the dems. He's toast n/t

[Starlight]

82. He may as well go ahead and officially switch parties.

[Tin Man]

35. Joe's secession proves Ned voters correct - Joe was never a Democrat

Fuck you Joe. :mad:

[nankerphelge]

37. Bye-bye...

don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

[Orion The Hunter]

38. So happy...

..that Lamont won! If only Lieberman had the sense not to run.

[Canuck55]

41. This has to be the highest profile primary race in history.

Its less than an hour in and it is already frontpage on the BBC and The Australian sites.

Edit: The Australian story is from correspondants in CT, not a Reuters or AP feed, wtf over.

[gully]

42. He'll get major pressure to do otherwise, we'll see if he's really

got an ounce of integrity.

[adarling]

43. sore sore loser

makes me sick, he is and always will be known as a traitor to the democratic party

[FredScuttle]

44. "but, but.....I marched with Dr. King!!"

Fuck you, Joe. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out, loser.

[bvar22]

45. On to New York, gang.

Another Warmonger need to get a memo from the Democratic Base!

https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/page/tasini-private

http://www.tasinifornewyork.org/

[AtomicKitten]

53. good luck with that

At 79% to 13%, clearly the majority of NY'ers don't agree that she is warmonger. Neither do I nor do a whole lot of other Democrats.

She is no Joe Lieberman as much as you and yours try to paint her as such.

[DLnyc]

85. She is no Lieberman, true. But she is way out of step with the

vast majority of New Yorkers on the war and on standing up to Bush's crap.

For example,
In New York: Bush approval:28% Bush disappoval 70%
(from http://www.surveyusa.com/50State2006/50StateBushApproval060718State.htm)

Also, Lamont had independent wealth to finance his campaign, Tasini has no such wealth. I think she would be wise to annunciate clear opposition to the war and to *'s "war powers" mentality, in order to line up more clearly with the views of 70% of her constituents.

I suspect Hillary's views on these things are not so far from my own. However, I sure would like to hear her say some of these things out loud, instead leaving us all guessing.

[AtomicKitten]

99. I agree with your assessment.

But I get damn sick and tired of the scorched earth propaganda about her. It's gratuitous slime that mimics the GOP. I despise what the GOP did to the Clintons during the 1990s and I certainly feel we at least owe her weighing the truth.

I will not vote for any candidate in the primary that voted yes on the IWR. However, she is not the only one, yet she is singled out for doing so. She has not done the Texas Two-Step like Kerry and Edwards who also want to run again in 2008; why isn't that move under scrutiny? She voted for one of the Dem resolutions for a staged withdrawal from Iraq and has torn this administration a new one on a plethora of issues. Her voting record is more liberal than most Democrats.

She doesn't deserve the nasty harangue against her from the left. It is unfair and unjustified.

But if the fabulous Lamont victory shoves her further to the left, great. Let it be a harbinger for the news to them that they work for us. I would far prefer Al Gore be our nominee in 2008, but if she is going to be a contender, I hope this race gives her a wake-up call.

BTW, Tasini is a crappy candidate; Lamont was a great candidate that ran an excellent campaign. IMO money wasn't/isn't the deal-breaker here. I think the disparity in the polls between CT and NY reflects the caliber of candidates involved, not money.

[LostinVA]

114. Nice post

I have my problems with HR, but the vitriol thrown at her by my fellow Progressives appalls me, because it IS exactly like the GOP attacks on the Clintons, and because Dem elected officials MUCH more Right than her are given a pass. She has been way too DLC on some issues, but has fought the good fight on others. She's not afraid to tell the Bushies to fuck off, either. She has some balls, and she has some damned fine views on many social issues. Sometimes she just needs to quit being a politician and a lawyer and be more a Representative of the People...

[AtomicKitten]

150. thank you

I feel like I'm screaming in a vacuum here sometimes.

[rhett o rick]

72. Hold it, how about Washington (the state)???? nm

[marmar]

46. He certainly didn't fight this hard in 2000...

If he had a shred of honor, he'd do the noble thing and support the Democratic candidate. But he's a selfish, narcisistic bastard.

[LostinVA]

116. He should watch McKinney's concession speech and learn something

[CBHagman]

47. Could this give Bush a veto-proof majority?

It's a serious question. How will the vote pan out come November? How many divisions are there in Connecticut? I don't live in the state, but I do feel a certain amount of alarm regarding possible divide-and-conquer scenarios in the battleground states. Connecticut ought to be a safe Democratic seat, but didn't Lowell Weicker get elected due to divisions in the Democratic Party due to pro-war and anti-war factions?

[DLnyc]

87. I don't think Connecticut has the slightest chance of electing a rethug

senator. Recent (July 20) Quinnipiac poll says:
Running as an independent, Lieberman gets 51 percent, to 27 percent for Lamont and 9 percent for Schlesinger. ( from http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=940 )

It seems reasonable to guess that, after tonight's showing, Lamont would do much better, the former alleged democrat much worse, and the repub about the same.

[Mabus]

48. How is the petition drive going for Lieberman?

I haven't heard about it for a while. :shrug:

[savemefromdumbya]

49. Lamont talks about ISSUES Lieberman talks only about Lieberman!

egotistical man - he will get some Republican votes in Nov but not enough to win.

[krkaufman]

64. Yep, the speeches were drastically different.

Lieberman whined and moaned, and just talked about playing nice with those on the other side of the aisle (and actually asked people to contact him with ideas on what he should do if/when he gets back to the Senate. seriously. he did.); while Lamont presented several key issues he felt needed to be addressed on his getting to Washington (iirc: Iraq, jobs, debt)

Lieberman whined about partisanship throughout his speech, and I felt his speech was clearly more partisan -- while Lamont's was focused on the issues.

[TankLV]

73. I guess it is partisan considering the DEMOCRAT won, instead of a REPUKE

LITE!

But it's always "partisan" when Democrats do something that benifits the party and country as a whole!

[savemefromdumbya]

153. Liberman just talked about himself really (old fossil)

[Julius Civitatus]

50. Huge victory for "the internets" - watch Rove fudge laws about blogging

This is not just a huge victory for the opposition against the war and the Bush machine, and a speck of light at the end of the tunnel. This has been a huge victory for the left blogosphere, since the Lamont campaign has been a major netroots campaign basically charged by online communities and blogs.

Rove is shitting his pants right now. The "little people" have found a way to organize and defeat their minions, and they've done it through online collaboration.

Watch out!

Rove and the neocons will rewrite the rules to muzzle bloggers. Lefty-bloggers are the new "librul media" for these monsters, and I bet they'll try to shut them down prior to the midterm elections in November.

[True Bleu]

77. Agreed. Corporate MSM is aghast at the power of the people

online. Dang it all! They had Faux News telling us what we should think and feel.
They had Rush spoonfeeding us ' THE FACTS" ...and now those dam "internets".
Just watch the "legislatin' " storm brew over this one.

YEAH! Democracy always finds a way!!!!

[Julius Civitatus]

86. Yes, they've been running scared, screaming "angry bloggers"

without even focusing on our issues... the PEOPLE'S ISSUES. And where were these MSM idiots when the right-wing bloggers were threatening everyone, accusing everyone of "treason" and acting really, really angry? It's only a problem when it comes from the left, as usual.

The biggest thing about this victory is that it puts the left side of the blogosphere and lefty grassroots movements on the map. We are as influential as the MSM can be. What's more, we can completely bypass the MSM and the corrupt beltway media culture and win. They are irrelevant. Power to the people.

[6000eliot]

54. Of course the asshole will.

He was never a good Democrat to begin with.

[glitch]

55. What an ungracious concession speech. Tacky man.

snip
The three-term senator said he was disappointed by the results but said he was more disappointed in how the primary campaign was conducted.

"The old politics of partisan polarization won today. For the sake of our state, our country and my party, and I cannot, I will not let this result stand."

[TankLV]

76. Besides, how can it be "partisan" when it was supposedly ALL DEMOCRATS

running against each other...

It can only be "partisan" if DIFFERENT partys were involved.

That statement alone speakes VOLUMES of where he is and considers himself...

[Maven]

56. the "politics of polarization" won, Joe?

No.

The politics of BACKBONE won.

The politics of PRINCIPLE won.

And the politics of SUCKING REPUBLICAN ASS lost.

Now step aside, fool.

[mitchum]

57. Fuck that mope

[Trillo]

59. If true, this is very disappointing for any candidate from the Democratic

Party. I think these kinds of usurpations of 'systems' commonly used is precisely why the corporatists have grown so powerful.

I guess Lieberman is just a little child, one in need of a correction.

[TwentyFive]

62. Loser "WAR LORD" Joe Lieberman is a corporate kiss ass.

He doesn't care about the people. He's in the pocket of bush and the fortune500 greedy bastards. Screw them all. Let's take our country back!!!!!

[harpboy_ak]

118. Loserman is an insurance shill

He's one reason why we don't have universal health care --- he's in the pocket of the Hartford insurance industry. Just another damned corporate senator who needs to be replaced.

[noahmijo]

63. I think we're witnessing the winds of change here people

But leave it to everyone here to take this as an opportunity to for so many on here to act all melancholy..which is EXACTLY why I hardly ever visit DU anymore.


C'mon rejoice people! tonight the people of Connecticut sent the strongest message to a powerful politician I have seen in nearly a decade-bow to the will of the people or we kick your ass out regardless of how many years the seat you sat in had your name on it.

I see this as the first major step in finally putting fear into those who sit on high and support the Bush Crime Family that we will no longer sit idly by like fools and watch them piss on our country anymore. It's small steps like this that lead to large ones. The will of the people prevailed tonight to show that America rejects the Neocon policy of war and greed. That any co-conspirators of the crimes of the Neocons will be swiftly brushed away in favor of people bold enough to stand up and say "ENOUGH!"


I look forward to this November I really do......

Ciao

~N~

[nolabels]

103. Let's just not spend too much time for partying...........

Like some of us have got that need to kick-em in shins feeling.
Saying good morning to the Korporate-Kool-Aid swigging fools just sounds like so much fun payback :-)

[noahmijo]

139. Oh that feeling is cool I'm all for the attitude of laying a good smack

down line. I'm primarily referring to the "Oh but he'll blow it for Lamont in the general race" crowd, you know the nay-sayers.

[ckramer]

66. I'm sorry for Al Gore too

How could he picked a loser as his VP?

[didntvote4shrub]

71. I was unhappy Gore picked him, although I realized

..he was trying to distance himself as far as possible from Clinton's affair and who better to demonstrate that than the biggest purse-lipped moralizer the Democratic party had available? And of course, the consultants told him he needed a New England conservative to balance the ticket. But gawd, I can't help but wonder whether a better pick would've made the FL recount unnecessary, and if not that, at least whether someone else would've FOUGHT. Bleaahhh. Go away, Joe.

[EFerrari]

98. And, he won Florida anyway. n/t

[TechBear_Seattle]

67. Can we call him "a damned spoiler who will only help the GOP" yet?

:hi:

[Critters2]

75. Yes

Yes, you may.

[Starlight]

83. The real question: would Lieberman like to see his seat go to the

republicans? I think he would. And I think republicans know that. He's a traitor through and through.

[TankLV]

68. SORE LOSERMAN! Get OUT of OUR Party you asswipe, LIEberman

WE demand an APOLOGY from all those LIEberman APOLOGISTS for saying WE were "hurting" the DemocraTIC Party.

I want to see how THEY all "rally round the party" now!

I won't hold my breath...

[rodeodance]

104. I would rather he stay in tan run as an Indep!!

[sangfroid]

124. Damned right!

I am so sick of hearing Faux Joe's stalking horses whining about how the McGovern Democrats are taking over the Party. Well, guess what Joe: we are the Party, and we're finally taking back what's ours.

[tabasco]

147. Yeah, McGovern, a guy who actually served in combat!

Not a slimy chickenhawk back-stabber like Schmoe!

I'm proud to be a McGovern Democrat!

[Critters2]

74. You can concede OR announce you're still running

You can't do both.

Are you gonna have that cake, or eat it, Joe?

[AmericanErrorist]

78. He's conceding the Democratic primary

and running as an independent.

[flaminbats]

92. he lost the primary and is running as an independent.

but votes don't matter to this loser. a concession means you acknowledge defeat and end the campaign.

[threadkillaz]

80. I heard the part about old time politics and ..

..partisan polarization blah blah blah.

Earth to Joe: How can a democratic primary be partisan you dimwit???

Quite the freudian slip.

[Starlight]

84. Because he's not really a Dem and we all know it.

[Boondog]

91. Indeed.

He of the concede and vow to run in November party. He's not too stuck on convention, it seems. He wants war, his party said they didn't. Something fairly explicitly final in calling your own party partisan. First post. Hello DUers

[Buns_of_Fire]

113. Welcome, Boondog

Now that you're here, dig in -- there's much to be done between now and November!

[Joe Bacon]

81. He should be stripped of all committee assignments.

LIEberman is acting like the spoiled brat who didn't get his way, so he is rewriting the rules.

There should be NO SPECIAL RULES for this fool. Connecticut Democrats spoke in record numbers and fired LIEberman. They saw the truth, that Joe LIEberman is the Dr Smith of the Democratic Party, sabotaging us every way he can.

What will LIEberman do if he loses again? will he accept the decision or will he barricade himself in his Senate offices and proclaim himself Senator for Life?

For too long, LIEberman has forgotten the difference between kneeling down and bending over. Come January, Senator Ned Lamont is going to start to undo the toxic legacy of this power-mad fool.

[zara]

89. Give no $$ to dems who support Lieberman

[Straight Shooter]

90. The albatross around the Democratic Party's neck.

Ain't it ironic. A stolen election in 2000, and Lieberman capitulated with a whimper. Then in 2006, he loses, fair and square, but announces he's going to put up a fight for the Senate seat.


Let it go, Lieberman. You lost for real this time.

[LostinVA]

117. I blame Lieberman for a chunk of the momentum of the 2000 loss

The military votes were suspect and most were illegal. He publicly whined about that, and publicly said to accept that votes. That was a major concession, imo. The outcome still may have been the same, but I firmly believe that concession gave much encouragement to the rabid dogs.

Why the HELL Al ever chose that dude is beyond me...

[shireen]

93. good grief! oh my! (as Rummy would say)

:wtf: is wrong with Lieberman?! He acts like he's entitled to the office. I'm glad Lamont won, but right now, Lieberman's selfish self-serving petty egotistical response is making me extremely pissed-off. I bet Al Gore is regretting ever picking this sorry excuse of a Democrat as his running mate! :grr: :grr: :grr:

[Doctor Panacea]

131. That creep Lieberman

Al Gore regretted that decision (choosing Lieberman as running mate) a long, long time ago.

[Eurobabe]

94. Power is addictive & Joe is deaf

can't hear that the Democratic voters of CT have spoken.

[raysr]

95. Repuke callers on CSPAN

GIDDY with thought of Lie-ber-man running as independent. He Joe, these are the same guys who had such "nice" things to say about you when you were running for VP!

[mumon]

96. I got dissed for this before, but I'll say it again:

<b>Joe Lieberman can go REPUKE</b>.

And now he is, effectively.

Let's call him "Sore Loserman."

Good wedgie, eh?

[noahmijo]

141. Who dissed you for calling a primary author of "The Media Marketing

Accountability Act" a Repuke? Hell to me BOTH Hillary and Holy Joe are not just Repukes they are outright in favor of borderline Facism with this shit. ANY politician who favors fucking with the 1st amendment in ANY way can be called no less for the spade they are.

[Guy Noir]

101. Joe Doesn't Get It...

You can't support the most fascist elements of the opposition, and get re-elected as a Democrat.

[BushSpeak]

107. What about the 14 000 new Democratic inscriptions on Monday?

I read in one of the newspapers, that there were 14 000 new Democratic inscriptions on Monday alone.

What do the Connecticut people think? Were these independents switching to vote for Lamont or Republicans for Lieberman?

I think that the independents/Lamont crowd would have changed affiliations earlier and that this last minute rush was a Republican manoeuvre to get Joe on the ballot in November.

Look at the vote total in the other primary races:

Senate 282,103
Governor 265,770
Lieutenant Governor 210,696

I think it would be fairly easy to check with county registrars to find the number of party changes from Republican to Democrat for the occasion.

This could be of critical importance for the November race, if it can be proven that Lieberman avoided a double digit defeat only because of Republican crossovers.

Any Connecticut DUers up to the challenge? Start with one county to see if the theory holds water.

The only statisics online are from 2005, so you would probably have to call the county registrars office.

I'm in France, so I can only cheer from the sidelines.

[krispos42]

108. Tell Reid to pull Joe off of all Senate committees

That Markos guy from DailyKos was on The Majority Report tonight (as he is every Tuesday), and he said he's going to pressure Senator Reid to pull Lieberman off all of his Senate committees if Joe declares himself an independent candidate. I mean, if Joe's no longer officially a Democrat, then it makes sense to me he can't be representing the Democrats on any of the committees.

Sounds like a plan to me. I voted for Joe twice in 2000 when I was a Connecticut resident, and I don't regret it. But he's grown stale and keeps his mouth shut on many of the most important topics.

[BrightKnight]

109. "...'Team-Lieberman' is about" Lieberman - n/t

[depakid]

111. Loserman and loser "network"

Peas in a pod.

[johnlal]

115. In the words of his idol...

Maybe Lieberman will understand if we put it in the words of his loverboy Bush:

You're either with us or against us.

If Lieberman fails to back the Democratic Candidate in this Senate Election, he should never be allowed to use the word "Democrat" again.

[Massachusetts]

119. Lieberman

SHOWS HIS TRUE COLORS (ITS ALL ABOUT ME). NOW, WOULD YOU WANT TO BE NEXT TO HIM IN A DESPERATE SITUATION?

[missTheBigDog]

120. I am so happy right now...

The guy was nothing but a cancer to the Democratic party. His concession speech should've been more classy. What does he intend to gain by running as an independent?

[Acadia Blue]

121. We need to do all we can to help Lamont win. Joe is a greed pig

who is nothing but a traitor to the democratic party and a closet republican.

[Vinca]

122. Lieberman is a selfish and egotistical little man.

He's not thinking of the Democratic party or the voters of his state, he's thinking of Joe and his cushy lift in D.C. He sickens me.

[sangfroid]

123. Faux Joe...

What a huge, cry-baby dick!

[rhett o rick]

125. Joe got it sooo wrong. In his campaign he said the far left was at

fault for his undoing, but that is a lie. The far left doesn't have the pull to unseat an incumbent Senator. The moderate democrats have spoken out.

Some Lieberman supports tried to claim that the opposition were "one issue". How true, but the issue is democracy. It's not just that Joe supported the war, he supported this Presidents drive to totalitarianism.

"Hey Joe, what'd ya know? The moderates have spoked, so now........blow!"

[Robb]

129. B-b-b-but

...the all said Lamont would lose!! :rofl:

[rhett o rick]

130. Wonder what the final spending breakdown was. nm

[rhett o rick]

127. Will he take votes from democrats or repubs in the general?? nm

[NotGivingUp]

134. No more Joe on msm for his "democratic viewpoint"! Makes me happy!

[RedG1]

135. Joe...the Whiney DINO

...says it all

[johnlal]

143. What do you think his Republican "supporters" will do?

All of those blow-hards who stood up for Lieberman during the primary: Will you put your money where your mouth is? Will any of those mouthy Republicans actually vote for Lieberman?

Will Coulter, Hannity and O'Reilly continue to endorse Lieberman? Of course not. They're going to drop him like a hot rock and start talking about the Republican candidate.

[Strawman]

144. Good. What will they say when Joe loses the general election?

I suspect they (the MSM punditocracy) will cling to their conventional "wisdom" by saying that Connecticut is an extreme example, too liberal to draw lessons from nationally. Watch how quickly the CT electorate changes from predominately "independent" to "very liberal" if Lamont wins.

I'm not upset Lieberman is running in the general election. In fact we need him to run. It's better if Lieberman runs in the general and Lamont beats him. As much as they'll try to change the facts to fit their narrative about how one can't be too "liberal" and succeed politically, they will be further exposed as the hacks that they are and maybe the people will get a sense of their power to effectuate change and challenge elites and the conventional "wisdom" that tells them they have to be cannon fodder or not demand that our nation's wealth be shared more equally.

[IronLionZion]

145. Who is he going to caucus with?

Seriously, if he wins the GE then he might caucus with the repubs out of spite. We may have just shot ourselves in the foot but it's way too early to tell.

[Lareina1970]

149. Good Luck With That...

*rolls eyes*

He's going to need it, especially if he keeps going the way he has been. CT voters aren't stupid and I'm sure they'll see his self - serving opportunism for what it is.

[file83]

151. If Lieberman cared about the Democratic Party, he'd accept the defeat and

do something else now.

Instead, this greedy, slimey, corrupt politician is going to run as an Independent now in order to draw votes away from Ned Lamont, helping the Republican candidate during the main election.

So, Lieberman continues to show his true colors: shades of red.

[ckramer]

154. The reason he lost is the independent didn't like him!

Duh!