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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 03:39 PM
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Lamont Surprised by Harshness of Attacks from Lieberman, Cheney
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democratic Senate nominee Ned Lamont, the anti-war candidate who toppled Sen. Joe Lieberman in the Connecticut primary, says he was surprised by Lieberman and Vice President Dick Cheney's claims that his victory could embolden terrorists. "My God, here we have a terrorist threat against hearth and home and the very first thing that comes out of their mind is how can we turn this to partisan advantage. I find that offensive," Lamont said in an interview Sunday with The Associated Press.

More good stuff here:
http://wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=5274932
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 03:42 PM
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1. Lamont is the new rock star of the D Party.
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 03:45 PM by stopbush
THAT'S why the Rs are so terrified of him. He came from nowhere to upsetting an extremely prominent Senator
through a powerful anti-R, anti-bush, anti-war message.

Ned's a white guy, not a a black guy (Obama) that the Rs can smear with their slightly veiled racism.

He's a businessman, suppossedly the "base" of bush's elite party.

He's a millionaire...like almost half of the Senators.

He's in touch with 60% of the public...Rs are in touch with 20% of the public.

Ned's on a fast track to remake the Party and the way Dems answer Rs and their machine. Get on the bamdwagon!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 03:43 PM
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2. it's just the beginning, Lamont. rove's plan is to attack, attack, attack,
and we have to respond by attacking first. we must always remember that bush's war on Iraq is the weakest point in the war on terror. it has made us extremely vulnerable, by weakening and distracting our armed forces, by depleting our munitions, by generating a massive training ground for terrorists, by emboldening terrorist recruiting, and by emboldening the oil companies to profiteer in a time of war.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:34 AM
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40. Rove and Cheney are attack dogs with puss festering rabies dripping
from their mouths

Rove is the soul of this sub-human puppet.


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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:08 AM
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45. cujo......
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Gogi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 03:43 PM
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3. What does everyone expect...
the repugs were nasty in victory and now that they are losing they're extra nasty with defeat staring them in the face.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 03:47 PM
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4. I like Lamont.
He's a formidable opponent and he has these assholes reeling. Good on him!
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:56 PM
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14. Here here! n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:02 PM
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:34 AM
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41. Au Revoir Enjoy your stay on this thread
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 03:55 PM
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5. Did you see him on FNS?
He was fine on all the terrorist/national security stuff but what the hell was he talking about when Chris asked him about wind farms and alternative energy? Asked if we should put wind farms in Nantucket Bay, Lamont said something like: "I don't think the government should be choosing one alternative energy over another. I think the FREE MARKET should decide." Are you sh*tting me Ned!!!! That's a Repuke talking point and you are bolstering their argument that Democrats won't let us do anything about energy. They just want to pick on the president. I certainly hope he has some better stuff than that on alternative energy.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 03:58 PM
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6. On the other hand, it takes away their ammunition that Dems are weak
on FREE MARKETS.
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TheFarseer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 05:45 PM
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19. Sure, if you're just playing politics
I was hoping someone would actually take a principled stand on an issue for the good of the American people.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 07:00 PM
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20. How many stands is he supposed to take?
He should focus now on getting elected and beating Loserman a second time.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:59 PM
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16. It angers me that he was even on Faux "News" . Damn it, this only
helps the rpigs by making Faux appear "legitimate". Let them alone in their stinking echo chamber to howl like hyenas and squeal like pigs,and people will see them for what they are, pure republican progaganda.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:46 PM
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31. ON the Other Hand--Lamont Looks Legitimate to the Foxy Crowd
because he did so well dodging the fan-spread refuse.

This gives the sheep a reason to stray from the GOP
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 07:48 PM
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22. I think he said
that the government should play a role in promoting alternative energy sources.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:04 PM
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7. He shouldn't have been
and that's what worries me. Has he not been paying attention to what the Repukes do to anyone who rattles their cage? They will turn anything they can into a partisan advantage. He should have been prepared for this.

I hope he will stop being surpised by the attacks and go on the offense.

Mz Pip
:dem:
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:13 PM
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8. I don't think he was really surprised - that's the headline writer
The media spins it all pro-R all the time.

Lamont's responding appropriately. Instead of just letting this go by, he's expressing appalled disgust. Good for him. We need to start calling the Repukes on their disgraceful statements and actions.
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OregonBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 05:12 PM
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18. Did you also notice that the writer actually says "the democratic party
has ABANDONED Lieberman". Not, according to sources or Lieberman says, just his opinion.

Uh, get a clue, HE LOST THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY and declared himself an INDEPENDENT. Of course the Democratic party abandoned him.
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:13 PM
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9. Ned Lamont has class, Cheney has None, just a big mouth
Lieberman is probably parroting what Cheney says; I don't think he was like that before he got involved with George Bush and Dick Cheney. Perhaps Joe needs to think about what that rat pack does to someone when they're through with them; hence, the way they discarded Catherine Harris when she was no longer needed, and she's the very one who made it possible for them to be in the White House in the first place.

I'd hate to go down with the sinking-W.-ship. :nopity: :nopity: :nopity:
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 07:30 PM
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21. Lieberman was like that before the Bush junta
For example, he criticized Clinton loud and long for his personal transgression. During the 2000 election recount efforts he went out on his own to suggest that absentee military ballots should be tabulated. His unilateral statement opened up the possibility of post-election fraud from abroad in an effort to appear gracious to the opposition and to soldiers everywhere. Republicans were delighted and Democrats had to wonder who Joe was trying to please, the home or the away team.

He has a history of making public statements that are contrary with the interests of the Democratic party, but he does seem to have gotten worse since Junior was appointed by the Supreme Court. He's done this to get attention. That's the biggest reason why I don't like him.
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 04:39 PM
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34. This is true, but it all seems so visible now
I was really hacked off at Joe Liebarman for how he criticized Bill Clinton, and the other things you mention about the election recount...It was disappointing to find out that he and Dick Cheney were personal friends.

It just seems as though Joe Lieberman has forgotten who elected him in the first place. He is indeed a
sore loser. :+ :+ :nopity:
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 02:44 AM
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42. Like cheney he's a draft evader
he was feathering his own nest when the blue collar sons of amerika were dying for corporate interests

Just like now in Iraq-Nam
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:51 PM
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38. If Lamont had any class, he wouldn't associate himself with Kos
NT
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pinerow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:00 AM
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44. And why should he not associate with Kos...???
nt
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:18 PM
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10. He's not surprised...he's just acting surprised
It's a good rhetorical strategy: Never in my wildest dreams could I have imagined that they'd link me - ME!! - with terrorism! It's completely unbelievable. I expected a decent campaign, not these wild and reckless partisan bombs. This isn't the way decent people behave, so of course I was surprised when Joe Lieberman and Dick Cheney immediately turned a terror threat into a campaign commercial. So are they all, all honorable men...
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habitual Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 07:54 PM
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23. he will be linking lieberman with cheney/bush as often as possible
that is his best tool right now and he is playing their game rather well right now!
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:08 PM
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26. good point
Lamont, and his campaign manager, Tom Swan, are too smart to not realize stuff like this was going to happen.

It was amazing how coordinated & focused the Republicans were in their attacks. Every one of them lamented the loss of Lieberman, every one of them said it was a victory for the "looney left" (or Wackadoo, or well, you get the idea) of the Democratic party, every one of them said that Al Qaeda was happy with Lamont's win. It was almost like they all got the same fax... :sarcasm:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 11:57 AM
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47. Or the "far left" as a certain "mr" here is fond of posting...
Haven't seen the bozo in some days - is he finally tombstoned?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:22 PM
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11. Democrats are helping GOPers attack Lamont
Over in General Discussion there is a thread about how the old PNAC renamed itself the Foundation for Defense of Democracy. In the list of members for this new FDD there are many names of Democratic congressmen.

FDD has written and helped fund some of these articles on this new attack on Lamont.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1902044
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:43 PM
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12. Lieberman & Cheney talk like we're not all in it together nt
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:50 PM
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13. Surprised? By this group of thugs?
Ned can't possibly be so naive as to think they wouldn't go super negative on him as soon and as often as possible.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 04:58 PM
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15. who cares what cheney thinks?
cheney is himself an evil-doer, i don't care what he thinks

i'm sorry that lieberman is behaving so badly, it is a real shame, the voters have spoken, he needs to respect the democratic process and be supportive of the people's choice

i won't say i'm shocked but i'll just say i'm discouraged

joe, it ain't always got to be about you

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RDANGELO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 05:08 PM
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17. This is all for their base.
They have to give their base something to hang on to. I don't believe any Democrats or independents buy any of this crap anymore. The only chance they have is a big turnout from the base. Some of these ditto-heads believe everything they say.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:01 PM
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:10 PM
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27. Source?
Edited on Sun Aug-13-06 08:13 PM by mac56
Where did you get your data?

I know you're new here. So I'm withholding judgment till I see where this is from.

Add on edit: the lack of credible sourcing hasn't prevented you from pasting it into at least a couple of threads. Need some more here.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:14 PM
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OKNancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:38 PM
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29. Kick
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 08:38 PM
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30. Lamont Decries Lieberman Terror Remarks

Full story: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20060814/D8JFSPL00.html

Lamont Decries Lieberman Terror Remarks
Email this Story

Aug 13, 9:07 PM (ET)

By ANDREW MIGA

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic Senate nominee Ned Lamont, the anti-war candidate who toppled Sen. Joe Lieberman in the Connecticut primary, says he was surprised by Lieberman and Vice President Dick Cheney's claims that his victory could embolden terrorists.

"My God, here we have a terrorist threat against hearth and home and the very first thing that comes out of their mind is how can we turn this to partisan advantage. I find that offensive," Lamont said in an interview Sunday with The Associated Press.


Connecticut Democratic Senate nominee Ned Lamont answers a question during an interview with the Associated Press Sunday, Aug. 13, 2006, in Washington. Lamont says he was surprised by the harshness of attacks from Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., and Republicans who contend his victory will embolden terrorists. (AP Photo/Jon Elswick)


After British officials disclosed they had thwarted a terrorist airline bombing plot on Thursday, Lieberman warned that Lamont's call for a phased withdrawal of troops from Iraq would be "taken as a tremendous victory" by terrorists.

Cheney suggested Wednesday that Lamont's victory might encourage "the al-Qaida types" who want to "break the will of the American people in terms of our ability to stay in the fight and complete the task."

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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:11 AM
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46. Lamont exposes the "REAL FEAR MONGERERs"
The McCarthy threats are old hand and the public knows it!!!!
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 09:19 PM
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32. Hey-dude-NED --------get USED to badness. Joementum kissed CHEENEE
We want you to WIN!!!!!!!!!1
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-13-06 10:37 PM
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33. Stop pro-Lieberman Kinky Friedman's out-of-Texas $ from Democrats
Some ill-informed Democrats (lots of them out of state, but unfortunately some of them here at DU) are sending money to Kinky Friedman's campaign because they think it's funny that we have a Jesse Ventura/Arnold Schwarzenegger-type moron fucking up the governor's race here in Texas.

Please help put a stop to that crap, but it's not funny for us down here in Texas.

Kinky is a big supporter of this new Zell Lieberman. On Joe Scarborough's show this week, Kinky praised Lieberman for leaving the Democratic Party, and Kinky suggested liberals were anti-American:

SCARBOROUGH: Hey, Kinky, could the argument be that both parties are extreme, vote for the new independent?

FRIEDMAN: That could certainly be. I think the mood of the country is really, really independent. I mean, I think the winds of change are really blowing right now. And all the—the way I see Lieberman, he's very—he's pro-America, unashamedly, and he's pro-Israel. And these liberals are not.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14285602

This bullshit echoes Kinky's support for Bush:

Question: So does this idea of the honorable cowboy have anything to do with why you threw your support behind President Bush in this last election? You did, didn’t you?
Kinky: Yes. I did in this last election, but I didn’t vote for him the first time.
Question: Who did you vote for in 2000?
Kinky: I voted for Gore then. I was conflicted. . .but I was not for Bush that time. Since then, though, we’ve become friends. And that’s what’s changed things.
Question: So it’s your friendship with him that’s changed your mind about having him as president more than his specific political positions?
Kinky: Well, actually, I agree with most of his political positions overseas, his foreign policy. On domestic issues, I’m more in line with the Democrats. I basically think he played a poor hand well after September 11. What he’s been doing in the Near East and in the Middle East, he’s handling that well, I think.

http://www.ruminator.com/content/040501.html (please also bear in mind that Kinky's claim to have voted for Gore in 2000 is a straight-up lie because Kinky's voting records confirm Kinky didn't vote in any elections for at least a decade before his vote for Bush in 2004. http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4517585).

Please help us shut this clown down in Texas: next time you hear some Democrat expressing interest in Kinky, please slap them.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:19 PM
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35. This deserves its own thread!
Edited on Mon Aug-14-06 05:20 PM by redqueen
:yourock:

It's own WEEKLY thread! :7



on edit: nevermind! I found it! :dunce:
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AusTexDem Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 08:57 AM
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43. Why do many Liberals in Tx support Friedman?
I have had Dems here in TX jump down my throat for suggesting Friedman is a spoiler.

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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 05:31 PM
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36. meanwhile, dick--
where is Osama bin Laden and why haven't you all captured him yet with the most elite fighting force on the planet with all of the latest technological gadgets that can invade OUR privacy over here, you can't cherry pick on people who don't even have electricity and running water?

Lamont's victory is no signal to embolden terrorists--our policy in the Middle East is what's creating enemies by the thousands... a policy, I do belive, dick and his boy put in motion.

Dems just need to counter the pigs with "it's five years after the fact; do you know where OBL is?"
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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 06:49 PM
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37. He can dish it out, but he can't take it.
There's nothing I've heard Lieberman say about Lieberman that's anyway near as bad as what Lamont's supporters have been saying about Lieberman.

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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-14-06 11:01 PM
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39. the Energizer DLCer..
keeps spinning, and spinning, and spinning, and spinning....
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 10:38 PM
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49. "There's nothing I've heard Lieberman say about LIEBERMAN
That's anywhere near as bad as what Lamont's supporter have been saying about Lieberman"?

Is that actually what you MEANT to post, dolstein?

Then again, Lieberman probably WON'T go negative on himself. At least until the last two weeks of the campaign.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-15-06 12:35 PM
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48. Have watched this man
being interviewed and am impressed, but if he thought the republicans were going to give him a free pass, then he will end up just like Kerry. Yes, just like Kerry who did not fight back even when the reprobate swift boaters went after him.
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