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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 03:48 PM
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Galloway congratulates Hizbollah
MP George Galloway has congratulated Hizbollah on its "victory" in Israel.

At a news conference in a Beirut hotel, the controversial politician said: "I came here to extend my congratulations to the Lebanese people on a great and historic victory against this aggression.

"I want to congratulate the Lebanese resistance and their leading edge, Hizbollah, whose martyrs and her s have achieved this great victory.

"And in particular to their leader, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, whose name now rings in joy around the world."

http://www.itv.com/news/world_710cebe5f341064ecfdaddae6dff0014.html
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Radioactive Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 03:58 PM
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1. Listened to him on the radio tonight
His show on TalkSport here in the UK was fantastic, he is broadcasting from Beruit and will be in South Lebanon tomorrow.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 04:05 PM
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2. Blair supported, with Bush, the destruction of Lebanon, the massive
bombardment of the civilian infrastructure, the deliberate attacks against civilians, even as they were fleeing for safer ground, one of the worst environmental crimes in the last century with the greatest oil slick in the Mediterranean sea, carpet bombing neighborhoods with cluster bombs in direct contravention of international and US laws banning such use for its weapons...

I do not think anyone "won" a victory here. But it is clear that Israel lost much.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 05:13 PM
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6. I agree that no one really won a victory
it was pretty much a bungle-fest from day one.
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HongKonger Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 03:09 AM
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7. Israel
Israel lost the PR war.

That's what is most significant.
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Phrogman Donating Member (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 03:25 AM
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10. Israel losing the PR war was very significant.
e0m
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MikeyJones Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 04:40 PM
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94. I know
I don't understand how the Jews lost it. They had missiles slamming into THEIR country after the Hizbos started it all. Hizbollah has to be stopped at all costs though. Give them another 20 years to rebuild all their defensive bunkers and their arsenals and I tell you they'll do the same thing only worse then.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:02 AM
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68. Hezbollah did a good job in defending her nation from the attacks.
Hezbollah is Lebanon, and without Hezbollah, Lebanon would likely cease to exist.
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msmcghee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:53 PM
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89. Without Hizbollah - Lebanon . .
. . would still have her infrastructure intact and the 1200 people who died in this war would still be alive.

But of course, for you, that's nothing compared to the opportunity for you to say really stupid things about geo-politics on the "internets".
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GeorgiaDem69 Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:25 AM
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92. I was going to say
something similar but you said it better.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 02:10 PM
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90. I agree... They have done a great job rebuilding their country...
They have helped their citizens unlike what * has done for New Orleans.
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MikeyJones Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 04:49 PM
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96. Hezbollah only rebuilds the parts of Lebanon.....
where their wackos operate terrorist tactics.
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 04:10 PM
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3. if we had such a spokesman in the US he'd be crucified by Abe Foxworthy
and the Israel Lobby, IMHO

witness Jim Moran, Marlon Brando, Fulbright &c
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 04:28 PM
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5. It won't be the first time that an innocent man was crucified
Spartacus was one of thousands crucified by Romans for daring to speak the truth.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 04:44 PM
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19. Galloway crucifies himself with his support for anti-liberal
theocrats and dictators. Not to mention his pitiful attention-seeking antics on Big Brother.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 12:36 AM
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22. Just as Olmert does for his support of anti-liberal theocrat and dictator
George W. Bush.

Have you read Jimmy Carter's critique of Tony Blair as a subservient lapdog of Bush?
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 12:44 AM
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24. Good Grief!
As bad as Bush is, he is no dictator. Your hyperbole in regards to Israel are OTT.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 01:08 AM
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27. Take off your rose-colored glasses, Bush is a dictator
Israel is at a crossroad. Make peace by talking to Syria and the Palestinians, or remain in endless war by electing a fascist like Bibi and Liebermann.

Israel should have never gotten attached to the land taken in 1967!
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 01:17 AM
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28. Try the lens of reality.
Saying he is a dictator does not make it so. He can be removed from office through non-violent means. He cannot, though you and he seem to think he can, rule absolutely. He doesn't have complete control of the government, though it sometimes seems that way.

As for Israel, no they shouldn't have become attached to the land, but then again, they should have never been attacked!
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GuillermoX71 Donating Member (35 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-31-06 01:34 AM
Response to Reply #27
100. If Bush is Hitler
as you say, wouldn't it stand to reason that you'd be in a concentration camp right now?

Or do you not live in the US, thus feeling safe to criticize the Fuhrer?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:52 AM
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32. I am not defending Olmert or the proto-fascists
holding the White House.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:27 AM
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29. "Anti-liberal" as in
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 09:27 AM by gorbal
There are two different definitions of "liberal" on the world stage now. One refers to pro-gay pro civil rights policies in the west and the other refers to the support of "liberal" trade policies that have proved harmful to so many countries.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:51 AM
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31. Anti-liberal = pro-repression and dictatorship
and theocracy.
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zreosumgame Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 03:38 PM
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38. ah, like Israel
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 03:51 PM
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41. Yes, the Little Satan, Israel. As long as Nasrallah, Ahmadinejad
and Galloway oppose Israel, their amen corner on the left will celebrate them.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 03:55 PM
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:01 PM
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45. Lebanon isn't a theocracy, and I've never claimed that.
Nor will I claim that Israel is without its problems. Israel does need to address systemic racism against its Arab citizens.

Nasrallah and Galloway are still illberal asshats.
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zreosumgame Donating Member (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:16 PM
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49. include dumbaya and Olmert in that list and I agree
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:20 PM
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50. We're in full agreement. Cheers. eom
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-26-06 04:11 PM
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4. Galloway is not alone in his condemnation of Blair
PM flies home to discontent
Press Association
Saturday August 26, 2006 2:13 AM

Some 37 Labour Party members in Foreign Secretary Margaret Beckett's constituency of Derby South lashed out as they quit for the Liberal Democrats.

The defectors, predominantly Muslims of Pakistani origin, included Mohammed Rawail Peeno, a Labour Party ward chairman, and Masood Akhta, an ex-city and county councillor.

Mr Peeno said: "We could not remain in the Labour Party after their mishandling of the Lebanon crisis. When Margaret Beckett refused to back a ceasefire and instead sided with George Bush, it was the breaking point for us.

"New Labour have abandoned the beliefs that led me and thousands of others to join Labour in the first place."

Liberal Democrat leader Sir Menzies Campbell called the defections "significant". He added: "The Government's position on the Middle East and Iraq shows just how out of touch it is with many in its party and the majority of the general public."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uklatest/story/0,,-6038749,00.html?gusrc=ticker-103704

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x230934
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 03:19 AM
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8. Getting bored, George?
Guess it was time to get on TV again, eh? How's that working out for you? Everything you'd expected?
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:37 PM
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61. Was he pretending to lap milk out of Nasrallah's hands? lol
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2006/01/14/pggalloway_1501_wideweb__470x343,0.jpg

Yet people here stand by him like he was Abraham Lincoln.

:loveya:

Peace.
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:05 AM
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71. That's because all they see of him is standing up to Congress....
...and telling them off. I applaud him for that, but he's still an attention seeking prat....who only seeks the limelight for the attention.
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N90ATC Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 04:42 PM
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95. Big Brother
How did he do on that show? I saw the finale of this season & it's much worse than the US version. WANKERS!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 03:21 AM
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 09:11 AM
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11. I usually like him, but that is going a little far.
Edited on Sun Aug-27-06 09:14 AM by gorbal
Showing Hezbollah a little more understanding is one thing.

I am just hoping both sides are so sick of being bombed that they never do it again.

(I also hope the US learns to stop bombing people BEFORE the like happens to us)
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 09:20 AM
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12. Galloway is a bit extreme.
But I don't begrudge him his freedom of speech. He helps to show the other side of the story.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 06:09 PM
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59. the man is sooooo right on. (see videos here)
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 11:03 AM
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13. I would congratulate the end of the war....without supporting Hezbollah nt
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 11:18 AM
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14. He made me do some research
Here is an interesting interview with the leader of Hezbollah

http://www.workers.org/2006/world/hezbollah-0831/

Interesting to get their side of the story. We don't see it much.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 11:26 AM
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15. Interesting, thanks. Sounds like they're just plain fed up.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 04:03 PM
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16. I wholeheartedly agree.
There were tremendous acts of heroism in defending Lebanese sovereignty against the aggression. While I do not agree with their political program overall, Hezbollah is expressing the will of the people of Lebanon.
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:43 PM
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87. "Hezbollah is expressing the will of the people of Lebanon."
A little more than half of Lebanese want Hezbollah disarmed. It's a lot more complicated than you imply.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 04:17 PM
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17. There are right wing morans...and there are left wing morans
Galloway is President of the latter.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 04:42 PM
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18. Galloway is an illiberal leftist.
He has expressed his admiration for the dictator of Syria, calls Tariz Aziz his dear, dear friend, and has said that he "glorifies" Nasrallah. He supported the Soviet Union during the Cold War, and mourned its passing.

Pure scum. His stint on Big Brother was merely par for the course.
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breakaleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-27-06 05:54 PM
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20. I find him very amusing.
While he goes a bit too far at times, at least he is out there getting the "other", non-Israeli, point across. And that's a good thing. While most politicians seem to support Israel, it's with rhetoric and ideology, and pays very little attention to the individuals on the ground.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 12:10 AM
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21. Galloway marginalizes himself.
The jury is in: This guy is just plain stupid.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 12:44 AM
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23. hmph. kinda strange. makes me a little uneasy about ever liking the guy.
more than a little bit.

i mean, he could have kept his mouth shut.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 12:54 AM
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25. Galloway keep his mouth shut?
Not a chance in hell.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 12:58 AM
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26. I like Galloway because he speaks like a free man.
Like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Hugo Chavez. I don't always agree with them, but I laugh at the sheer impish enjoyment they get out of tweaking the noses of US, British and Israeli leaders (UBI). They realise that words and diplomacy are just abused by UBI and that UBI's power and influence is on the wane, so they moved outside the bubble and say whatever the fuck they think. They're sometimes inconsistent and engage in a certain amount of hyperbole, but I find their straight talk quite refreshing and love how it drives their detractors into an absolute frenzy.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:45 AM
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34. You find Holocaust-denial 'refreshing?'
Ahmadinejad is a theocratic Neo-Nazi. Fuck him and anyone who likes him.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 03:56 PM
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43. I'm not sure he denies the Holocaust.
Take the letter to Merkel:

"The question is if these countries, especially Britain, felt responsible for the Holocaust survivors, why they did not settle them in their own countries?" it said.

This doesn't sound like denial to me. He does question why Palestianians should have have suffered for the sins and guilt of Europe.

Whatever happened to his Holocaust investigation conference? I didn't read anything about it actually happening. Most likely because he knew the idea was ridiculous. I mean how difficult is it to prove the Holocaust happened. The documentation would sink the conference venue. He seems to just say these things to tweak the noses of his critics. But the warmongers love to see them in the headlines and get worked up into a red-faced frenzy, frothing at the mouth, calling him all sorts of bad names -- madman, crazy, insane, neo-nazi, theocratic -- and think: BOMBS, BOMBS BOMBS.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:02 PM
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47. He's denied the Holocaust on multiple occasions--
he called it a "myth" or "fabrication."

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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:59 PM
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66. Galloway has never ever said that the holocaust is a myth or a fabrication
in any venue, recorded, live or repeated in print.

I've seen him accused of backing people who claim the holocaust didn't happen, but that's quite an abstract connection and a bit far fetched as well, but pretty much as close as it gets.

While Iran is anti-jewish, considering the entire nation of israel wants them dead, I can't say that a war of words is always going to be polite, kind and fair.

Galloway is a good man who has the balls to say what the bad guys don't want to hear. I totally dig it.

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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:13 AM
Response to Reply #66
79. Anti-Zionism is not
anti-Jewish. Iran is against the Zionist state. Big difference.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 06:27 AM
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80. Like pretty much anyone of reasonable conscience, Iran opposes any state
that oppresses, attacks, invades, conquers and terrorises. Zionist isn't a state per se, but a movement. If that movement is being used to oppress, attack, invade, conquer and terrorise its neighbors, then I can how a nation/state would oppose it.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 09:08 AM
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81. I was talking about Ahmadinejad. eom
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:31 PM
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52. did so again within the last 48 hours....holocaust 'made up' to embarrass.
...the Germans and aggravate their anquish in WWII defeat.
you could look it up.
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 12:12 PM
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35.  "engage in a certain amount of hyperbole," huh?
Like those little offhanded nuggets about wiping Jews off the face of the earth. Only a certain amount of hyperbole there...

:sarcasm:
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:15 PM
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48. It has been shown over and over again here that he never said that.
"Wiping Jews off the face of the earth."

He never said that. It's so ironic that you would accuse him of hyberbole and do exactly the same thing.

He said the name of Israel should be wiped off the map and replaced with Palestine. It's the Western press and American politicians who insist on changing that to "destroying Israel", but I don't think any of them have been so dishonest as to change that to 'wiping Jews of the face of the earth.' I don't know what your purpose is in changing his words like that.

The Jewish people are respected in Iran. It has the largest Jewish community of any Muslim country.


Tehran has 11 functioning synagogues, many of them with Hebrew schools. It has two kosher restaurants, and a Jewish hospital, an old-age home and a cemetery. There is a Jewish representative in the Iranian parliament. There is a Jewish library with 20,000 titles, its reading room decorated with a photograph of the Ayatollah Khomeini. Khomeini protection of Iran's Jewish community is confronted by contradictions....

...''Sometimes I think they are kinder to the Jews than they are to themselves. ... If we are gathered in a house, and the family is having a ceremony with wine or the music is playing too loud, if they find out we are Jews, they don't bother us so much,'' Eliyason said. ''Everywhere in the world there are people who don't like Jews. In England, they draw swastikas on Jewish graves. I don't think that Iran is more dangerous for Jews than other places.''

http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/iranianjews.html

But hey, some people are determined to go to war with Iran and propaganda is part of war. Got to whip up some hysteria. Get the people ready.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:25 PM
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51. Here's some more Iranian love for Jews
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/25/world/middleeast/25iran.html?_r=1&ref=middleeast&oref=slogin

Wikipedia was actually helpful here with a bunch of links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_Jews#Current_status_in_Iran

"here is a Jewish representative in the Iranian parliament."

Yeah, they are limited to one much like other minority religions.

Iran isn't the worst place for Jews but its hardly equal footing.

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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:45 PM
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53. The point is he has NEVER talked of wiping Jews off the face of the earth.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:21 PM
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60. No, he just denied that Hitler tried to do so.
Keep on defending your hero, though.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:49 PM
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54. Nasrallah, on the other hand, has said that the he prefers
having as many Jews as possible in Iran, since that spares Hezbollah the trouble of going after them overseas (like in Buenos Aires).
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #48
63. We can probably have a link war as long as you want, but OK
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 10:43 PM by LordLovesAWorkingMan
Your screen name seems apropos, for sure...

From http://web.israelinsider.com/Views/7829.htm

'...the hatred toward the world Jewish community is boiling over. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad called for jihad against Israel with his proclamation that Israel must be, "Wiped off the face of the earth." Ahmadinejad is strategically fanning the flames of hatred among Islamic terrorist groups to unite against the Jews and the Western world.'

If you want something from a news source with a demonstrably liberal editorial stance, how about...

From http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1601413,00.html

'Iran's new president created a sense of outrage in the west yesterday by describing Israel as a "disgraceful blot" that should be "wiped off the face of the earth". Mahmoud Ahmadinejad who is more hardline than his predecessor, told students in Tehran that a new wave of Palestinian attacks would be enough to finish off Israel.'


From http://www.opiniojuris.org/posts/1156644977.shtml

'It is perfectly clear from this that — irrespective of whether one translates the controversial phrase as “be wiped off the face of the earth” as did the Iranian news agency, or as “vanish from the page of time,” as did Juan Cole — Ahmadinejad is calling for the elimination of the state of Israel and its replacement with a state of Palestine in which Jews will have no right to participate. The euphemism of “Zionist regime” is an old and familiar one for the Jewish state of Israel. It does not refer to any particular government of that state. Similarly the reference to the Jewish population of Israel as “those who have come to this land from far away to plunder this land” is a familiar one, and is particularly appropriate to Ahmadinejad who speaks of the Jewish population of Israel as interlopers imposed on the Middle East by Europe in response to the Holocaust.'



I might need this barrel for something later, so I'll resist the urge to keep blasting it full of bullets.


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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:39 PM
Response to Reply #63
64. And where does he talk about "wiping Jews off the face of the earth"?
Re your post #35, better dig deeper into your vast supply of "bullets".
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. I can't help it if you won't read, or if you don't like what you read.
Sorry.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #65
67. Just show me where he talked about "wiping Jews off the face of the earth"
How hard is that? I read everything you posted, but there is no such quotation by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.
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LordLovesAWorkingMan Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:25 AM
Response to Reply #67
69. I'll bury it in sand
so you can read it from your vantage point there.

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 03:20 PM
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36. I'm with you, Oblivious!
They stir the pot briskly and in doing so give us all insight into how much muck is stuck at the bottom. I too find it entertaining to watch all the chains getting jerked about. :rofl:
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 03:32 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. So, you're endorsing racist and bigoted speech?
Interesting.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 03:47 PM
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 03:49 PM
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40. You're the ones celebrating how Ahamadinejad
jerks people's chains by denying the Holocaust, and by Galloway praising a racist, homophobic theocrat like Nasrallah.

I'm just wondering how that is more appropriate here than at Free Republic.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:15 PM
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55. Thanks for illustrating my point.
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 05:42 PM by Karenina
And exactly WHERE have you seen me "celebrate" Ahmanidjit? I just think he's funny. My opinion of him is informed by my contact with like-minded IRANIAN ex-pats, watching carefully what he spews and when, PLUS having access to ACCURATE translations. What we're dealing with these days is so far down the rabbit hole that sometimes laughter really IS the best medicine.

AND GUESS WHAT? There are also racist, homophobic theocrats in the U.S. and Israel who make it their bidness to drown out the voices of reason and sanity.

Perhaps I am not the one who has a mistaken URL. ;-)
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #55
56. You're talking about how he's entertaining and how
he gives us insight into those people whose chains he is jerking.

Oblivious also gave us this:

"They're sometimes inconsistent and engage in a certain amount of hyperbole, but I find their straight talk quite refreshing and love how it drives their detractors into an absolute frenzy."

Holocaust denial doesn't qualify as straight talk, last time I checked. I certainly would never praise David Irving or Ernst Zundel for 'straight talk'--but Oblivious just did the equivalent.



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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:12 AM
Response to Reply #56
72. Yadda-yadda-blah-blah...
:boring:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #26
44. "straight talk"
"inconsistent and engage in a certain amount of hyperbole"

I am at a loss of how the above translates to straight talk.

The concept of the enemy of my enemy is my friend is apparently taken a bit too seriously by some on DU.

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MikeyJones Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #26
58. While I also like what Mr. AhMADinejad frequently talks about because he's
honest -- I disagree completely with the content of what he says. I like him because he has balls and he's cocky. He oozes charisma. He shoots his mouth off without regard to anybody's opinion but at the same time the idiot needs to curb his mouth. It is getting annoying. To much preaching and whining can quickly turn him into the equivolent of a mosquito buzzing around somebody's head -- soon it just becomes another annoyance that nobody wants to hear about.
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Spinoza Donating Member (766 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:31 PM
Response to Reply #58
86. "...I like him because he has balls
and he's cocky. He oozes charisma. He shoots his mouth off without regard to anybody's opinion...."

An excellent description of.....Adolph Hitler.
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MikeyJones Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #86
93. Good point
I like the man because he's "his own man" so to speak. He doesn't cowtail to the West. Instead the West cowtails to him and bends over backwards so the crazy man of Iran doesn't blow up and do something that will lead to WW3. Be careful with your comparisons to Hitler though, Savage and other right-wing radio pundits are using the same anology to help drum up war support for a potential operation against the Iranians. And that's the last thing I'm sure any of use want to see:

the final implementation of neoconservative ideology.
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gorbal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 09:30 AM
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30. check out galloways youtube vids
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=%22George+galloway%22&search=Search

You can find so much good stuff on youtube these days. Intelligent people speaking, news you might not get anywhere else, music videos by both unknowns and well-knowns, and about every episode of the "Daily Show" ever made.:)
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 11:10 AM
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33. What an idiot
Edited on Mon Aug-28-06 11:11 AM by Onlooker
It's fine to criticize Israel for its reckless invasion of Lebanon, but to congratulate a sexist, homophobic reactionary like Nasrallah puts Galloway on the far right. He embarrases a lot of us who supported him in the past.
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Master of Disaster Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 04:01 PM
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46. I would have expected nothing less from Mr. Galloway.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 10:04 PM
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62. Galloway is right on as usual.....
Western governments are intensifying their pressure on Damascus and Tehran for which they are proposing a change of regime. Some sources are of the view that the attack on Lebanon will be directed on Syria. Is a regional war possible?

The centers of imperialist power want to make collaborators of our region as a whole. They expect us to kneel before them. Syria, Iran and we are opposing this. The provocation concerning the former Leba nese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri and the efforts to secure the withdrawal of the Syrian army from Lebanon and going even further, their wish to attack callously on to Tehran and Damascus are all due to this reason. Syria, with Iran and Hezbollah will certainly resist this. The imperialists of the west are seeking to make a second Kosovo out of Lebanon and our region. They are seeking to create a clash between sects. But we have spoiled this trick. In our streets, the whole of Lebanon, with its Christians, Sunnis and Shias, are flying the flags of Hezbollah. Again, the unipolar world has already been left back in history. There is us, there is Iran, there is Syria, there is Vene zuela, Cuba and North Korea. There are the resisting peoples of Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan! As long as there is imperialism and occupations, these people will continue resisting. They can forget about peace. If they want peace, they should now respect the freedom of peoples and should eliminate the collaborating gangs. God willing, the victory will be ours. They are not going to be able to turn our country and region into a Kosovo. Now our people are aware of everything and will not play into imperialist tricks. We will absolutely not permit them to attack Iran or Syria. We are going to fight for our freedom to the last drop of our blood. Let no one doubt this. They are claiming that Iran has nuclear wea pons at its disposal. On the contrary, most of the nuclear weapons are in the hands of the collaborating gang of Israel and the U.S. Furthermore, nuclear wea pons are nothing but excuses put forward in order to create collaborating regimes in the region.

Read the rest here
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Master of Disaster Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 07:45 PM
Response to Reply #62
91. Galloway has gone off the deep end--as usual.
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MikeyJones Donating Member (212 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-28-06 06:05 PM
Response to Original message
57. Why??
I don't agree with the slaughter of Lebanese civilians by any stretch of the imaginations but at the same time there is nothing to congratulate with the crazy Hezbos.
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 03:34 AM
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70. What. A. Tosser. n/t
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:33 AM
Response to Reply #70
74. Most accurate statement on this post
Our American cousins, with the exception of BooScout who's here and judge more accurately ,do not appear to recognise what a wanker he really is.
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Dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:30 AM
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73. Scumbag.
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hogwyld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:35 AM
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75. Fortunately, he can say what he wants
Someone has to stand against the Israeli lobby, the nazi * administration, and the military industrial complex.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:36 AM
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76. .
:eyes:
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #76
85. Don't always agree with you
but, yes , trust me - Georgie Boy is a real life sensation grabbing scumbag. Rest of the time he don't even seem to exist. I think his constituency see very little of him. I'd be surprised if gets re-elected next time round.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 04:47 AM
Response to Reply #75
77. He's a preening idiot
that he hits the mark on occasion, is irrelevant to me.
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Stella_Artois Donating Member (838 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 05:10 AM
Response to Original message
78. George Galloway expresses his support through interperative dance


With serious politcal heavyweights like George on your side, what can go wrong ?
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:19 PM
Response to Reply #78
82. Well done
on finding that BB chestnut. Just about says it all. :rofl:
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LivingInTheBubble Donating Member (360 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #82
83. I think the RW site he got it from says it all
Edited on Tue Aug-29-06 12:33 PM by LivingInTheBubble
George Galloway polarises opinion, and you will see many people try to shout him down, but he is the only one with spine to stand up for many issues. Most labour MPs keep quiet about Blairs right wing behaviour, they only care about keeping their seat.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 12:59 PM
Response to Reply #83
84. You don't exactly need an RW site
to pictures or videos of Pete Burns. He started off same time as Boy George back in the eighties. The picture is on Wikipedia :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Burns

I can only assume you regard Wikipedia as RW - must confess that thought had never occured to me. Not being paranoid are you ?
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-29-06 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #83
88. Yes, a man with a spine who has a bent for self marginalization
He wasn't forced to make an ass of himself by being on reality TV, that is his doing.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #83
98. Here's the film directly from Youtube:
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 09:47 PM
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97. Galloway's a kook...
...Hezbollah are scum, and Israel used the worst possible tactics in the conflict.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-30-06 11:13 PM
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99. well said
One can condemn Israel's actions here without speaking in support of a terrorist organization like Hezbollah. Galloway is an embarassment.
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