John Mark Karr released

[rodeodance]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14553130/?GT1=8404

John Mark Karr released
DNA of suspect in JonBenet murder no match in case, prosecutors say

BREAKING NEWS
Updated: 23 minutes ago

BOULDER, Colo. - Prosecutors abruptly dropped their case against John Mark Karr in the slaying of JonBenet Ramsey and released him Monday, saying DNA tests failed to put him at the crime scene despite his repeated insistence he killed the 6-year-old beauty queen.

“The warrant on Mr. Karr has been dropped by the district attorney,” public defender Seth Temin said outside the jail, a few hours before he was released. “They are not proceeding with the case.”

Boulder County District Attorney Mary Lacy’s office did not return repeated calls from The Associated Press.......

“We’re deeply distressed by the fact that they took this man and dragged him here from Bangkok, Thailand, with no forensic evidence confirming the allegations against him and no independent factors leading to a presumption that he did anything wrong,” Temin said.

[Anakin Skywalker]

1. Hah! I Knew It.

This guy is some a whacko who wanted a FREE first-class flight home.

[President Jesus]

58. wow. ur smart.

[MrCoffee]

2. hahahahhahahahhhhaaaahahaa FUCK!

precious brain cells used up because of this stupid fucking non-story.

[Bonhomme Richard]

3. Do they feel stupid or what?

I said to my wife the other day that I didn't think he did it. She asked why I thought that and I said that there was something hinky with him and my instinct said he didn't do it.
I always trust my instincts.

[Vanje]

50. Well, That and the fact that he wasnt anywhere near Colorado

when the murder occured.........in Colorado.

Dudes got his solid 15 minutes of fame though.

[spanone]

4. What now? Larry King? Leno? Book Deal? Is he bummed out?

What a load of shit this media of ours will eat. Lock, stock & barrel.

[mother earth]

5. Why didn't they do the DNA test BEFORE they brought him here?

How utterly stupid. You think before they went to the trouble & expense they could've done this. So what if it takes 2 wks for results.

The media plays the fool again, priceless!

[spanone]

8. A cynic might say that it was a convenient diversion from the real world.

:shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug: :shrug:

[zreosumgame]

14. the DA wanted every ounce of publicity from this

she could get. The dumb broad thought this would make her name...and it does as a moran

[QuestionAll...]

20. 'dumb broad', 'evil, crazy bitches'...

looks like this little man has some issues...

[AngryOldDem]

82. Exactly!

This is a career-builder -- how?

It's been a real bang-up couple of months for law-enforcement in this country. Maybe she should go into private practice with the DA from Raleigh.

[Warren Stupidity]

22. DNA test,? How about the family's alibi?

Karr's family insisted he was with them at the time of the murder. They didn't need to do any DNA testing at all, they just had to check out the damn alibi. This whole affair stinks like a florida election.

[President Jesus]

59. yeah, beacause family members never lie to protect

yes, it was pretty obvious from day one that this twerp was lying, but that doesn't excuse the stupidity of your remark above.

I think it's safe to say that the responsible thing to do in a murder case is to at least run a DNA check on a fella who is insisting that he committed the crime. I'd put family statements to the media pretty far down on the list of 'evidence' for or against a suspect.

ps what makes you think checking an out-of-state alibi from 10 years ago is any easier that running an automated, virtually perfect test?

[Warren Stupidity]

61. Alibis are very easy to check.

And it is standard low tech police work.

[President Jesus]

64. Very easy?

From what region of your ass are you pulling this knowledge?

It may be 'low tech,' but that does not equal 'easy' or 'accurate,' especially when you consider that those people who are providing the 10-year-old alibi are all biased and live 1000 miles away from the investigation.

Now compare that with doing a sure-fire, unbiased, scientific test that you have to do anyway. If you still feel the emphasis should have been on investigating biased alibis from people who've already sold Karr's movie and book rights, all I can say is that I'm happy that you spend your time typing away on the internet instead of actually mattering.

[LostinVA]

72. Ex wives who loathe their exes don't lie to protect exes they consider

scum....

[Tyrone Slothrop]

80. Unless they want to protect their children from knowing that Daddy

Was a pedophile and a murderer.

[LostinVA]

85. They already know their Dad was arrested on child porn charges

His kids aren't little.

And, no, they still wouldn't p[rotect him. I know people whose exes did way less than this, who would send them up the river in a heartbeat.

[Tyrone Slothrop]

88. Big difference between porn misdemeanors and commission of

one of the most infamous crimes of the last decade.

And, for the record, I know several exes who would have tried to protect him.

I also know several exes who would lied their asses off to see him fry.

Anecdotal tales mean nothing here.

(Regardless, I don't think he did it. As soon as the details started to become clear, it seemed fairly obvious that this guy wasn't involved.)

[catmandu57]

69. It would have been very easy to do wouldn't it?

A simple swab of the mouth, seal it in a plastic envelope and fly that here, leave this guy sitting in a Thai prison while the results were checked.
I understand he was there on Thai charges, now, he's a free man, it could have all been done on the qt even. I guess bushco* wanted this distraction very badly.

[lumberjack_jeff]

70. Maybe he confessed because he had no $ for a plane ticket home. n/t

[quiet.american]

6. I'm so glad I don't pay for cable news.

I don't have to be subjected to the faux-hysteria that follows every 24/7 story that turns out to be worthless.

[Nitrogenica]

7. OMG so now more media hype about this, however, will anyone

make the argument that these stories are hyped to distract from the issues that really matter?

I predict NO-ONE on cable news will make this point, except maybe Olbermann. The cable news network is failing the people, again and again.

[ShortnFiery]

60. It's termed "Bread and Circuses" that keep us chattering classes ...

preoccupied (with mindless and inconsequential bullsh*t). :grr: :puke: :grr:

[rodeodance]

9. the article did nto say anything about the CA legal issues.

[bluestateguy]

10. Well that was that

I will say this, however. If he was deliberately misleading and lying to the police for his "15 minutes of fame", then he should be charged with obstruction of justice. I'm not saying that he did that, but it's something to look into.

[jayctravis]

43. I wonder if he was in trouble over there...

and in order to avoid jail in a foreign country decided to get himself extradited.

[LostinVA]

73. Nope, not in any trouble in Thailand -- and he wasn't extradicted

[RayOfHope]

67. Not only charged with that,

but made to repay the costs associated with his transport back to the US.

[LostinVA]

75. Why? It wasn't his intention to be deported

It was the US officials who were too quick on the draw -- as usual. THEY should be made to repay the costs.

[RayOfHope]

83. He wouldn't have gone anywhere had he not 'confessed'.

I guess they should split the bill.

[jpak]

11. Nancy Grace's head just exploded

What an asshole she is...

[MrCoffee]

12. God, please let it be so...

[go west young man]

48. Ya got that right!

[tuvor]

13. Not arrested for obstructing justice or something? What gives?

He can't suddenly be a free man, no problems.

[Retrograde]

23. I thought it was illegal to lie to the FBI

That's what they got Martha Stewart on. Does the same apply to other law enforcement types?

At a minimum, he should be billed for total costs to the various governments involved - that includes the transportation costs for his escorts as well as himself.

[LostinVA]

26. Yeah, he can

[Purveyor]

15. CBS News reports he is being held for extradictioin to CA. n/t

[Subdivisions]

16. CNN first said he was released, now they say

"Stunning Developments" coming and that he hasn't been released.

What a bunch of stupid fucks. Jeez.

[cspanlovr]

17. I like Jack Cafferty, but I just heard him say that "they" (the media)

were really suckered into this. I turned to my husband and said "HA!" "THEY weren't suckered into anything, WE WERE! Does someone hold a gun to the head of the networks and force them to give us this crap 24/7? Well, maybe.

[Ravy]

56. I wonder if they will charge him for the prawns and champagne (n/t)

[Renew Deal]

18. Isn't there a warrant for him in California?

I thought there was.

[MaineDem]

19. Will he have to pay for the business class ticket from Thailand?

Did anyone really believe this guy???

[krispos42]

25. Probably not. It was a tactic by investigators to get him to talk

Nice food, plenty of alcohol, comfy seats, no handcuffs, some friendly talk...

Must not have worked, but worth a shot. Now he can have fun being a pincushion in San Quentin.

[LostinVA]

27. Why would he be going to San Quentin?

I've heard he won't eb extradited to CA, and I've heard yes. But, regardless, they are all misdemeanor charges. You don't go to SQ on misdemeanors.

And, why is rape considered an apt punishment for ANYONE? That's sickening to me.

[krispos42]

32. I thought he was answering for child molestation charges there.

Or was that in his past? I thought they were outstanding in California, but he was brought to Colorado because the Jon Benet case (murder) was more important.

I'm assuming the molestation charges are felonies and he would go to San Quentin. Which is far from a vacation resort, and I understand that child molesters are the lowest of the low in prison.

I don't for a minute think institutionalized rape is something to be encouraged or ignored, but that does not mean it won't happen. And if Karr is molesting kids, I have a real hard time drumming up more than token anger for his predictiment.

[greccogirl]

33. There were NEVER any child

molestation charges against Karr, in California or elsewhere. In California he was wanted on misdemeanor charges of possessing child porn. That is all. I understand or read that the Sonoma county charges had been dropped. But with the media, who knows?

[krispos42]

40. Okay the, he's a free man now. Guess I got my facts mixed up. Apologies.

The curse of trying to not be interested in an overplayed MSM distraction story!

[greccogirl]

41. Boy that's for

sure! You never know with the media.

[LostinVA]

76. Zero molestation charges

Five misdemeanor child porn charges. He skipped bail, and was found guilty in absentia. CA lawyers say he will get time served (MAYBE a little time), probation, and sex offender registration. Also, they said no one is EVER extradited from another state for non-felony charges -- this is all showboating.

He is ill and skeevy and a creepo, but there is no evidence he ever molested a child.

[Nutmegger]

37. Thanks for saying that.

I've seen quite a few comments here on this board regarding prison rape. I agree 100%.

[LostinVA]

77. Thanks -- it drives me crazy

[pretzel4gore]

21. we deserve so much better from the pigmedia...

the pigmedia, like it or not, is our window on the world, and if the window is smeared with bush's crap, then we can't see beyond to what's going on in the big wide world; and that's not conducive to making wise choices regsrds current events! the pigmedia tries as hard as they can, but....maybe it's the cloven hoofs slows em down , or something.

[AtomicKitten]

24. he will now be tried

in Sonoma County on child porn charges.

[greccogirl]

34. Which I understand are

misdemeanor charges - and I've read today Sonoma county dropped the charges.

[Jed Dilligan]

28. Maybe he can get an apartment with Richard Reid

once they're both free!

[meisje]

29. Many DUers had already found him guilty

[saigon68]

30. They were STOOPID ASSCLOWNS

[VegasWolf]

36. Nah, just the crossing over FReepers looking for a little intelligent

conservation.

[VegasWolf]

31. Perfect! he made the MSM look exactly like the FOOLS and WHOR$ES

that the news media is. I am laughing my ass off. Hey, Wolf Blitzer, calling the Situation Room, hello, hello, anyone home??? Fox News, you dumb fucks, anyone there? Hello, you've been made a complete fool of.

[greccogirl]

35. Fox news?

Heck he made a fool of EVERY major news outlet. He got a first class trip home, fame, and will probably now get a huge book deal and lots and lots of money.

[VegasWolf]

39. I think Wolf Blitzer is on CNN, but welcome to DU!! nt

[greccogirl]

42. Thanks!

[Blue_Tires]

38. who didn't see THAT coming??

i mean, come ON! Suppose he really DID do the killing...Just take one glace at him and tell me if he looks like the type of person that would keep his mouth shut about it for a decade?

[greccogirl]

44. TO ALL!

Apparently, the authorities comments earlier today that Karr was not going to be prosecuted for the Sonoma county charges is incorrect. I now see that supposedly California IS going to prosecute for the child porn charges. More misinfo on the earlier. I'm glad he isn't walking free at least - and the there is also speculation that he might be charged with lying to authorities.

[RCinBrooklyn]

45. Egg on the face of the media. F*cking whores, all of them. n/t

[Az_lefty]

46. Dragged him from Bangkok????

he duped the officials into giving him a taxpayer paid free ride from Thailand.
The POS should at least be made to pay it back.

[go west young man]

47. Straight faced psycho probably just wanted a free ride back

from Thailand. He's now an instant celebrity who can get a book deal and afford to fly back to Thailand to molest kids whenever he wants.

[young_at_heart]

49. Shame on the "news" shows for all the hours spent on this story

There are so many important things going on, but we were forced to hear this sleasy story.

[leesa]

51. Well, that was a nice little distraction from the crimes of this

administration. No wonder Homeland Security went to personally escort him from Thailand...Homeland Security's about securing Neocon butt.

[minnesota_liberal]

52. The entertainment-oriented media was duped!

But, of course, they'll pretend they just report the news.

[susanna]

53. I told DH on his extradition to the US...

..."he's just someone trying to get out of the Thai prison system; he'll get treated better over here." Unfortunately, it looks like I might have been on to something. :-(

[LostinVA]

78. Nope -- he wasn't extradited and he wasn't imprisoned in Thailand

He was deported after the US officials told the Thai officials Karr was wanted for murder.

[susanna]

91. Thanks for the correction. n/t

[VegasWolf]

54. Heard they were going to sign Tom Cruise to play his part. nt

[davsand]

86. I kinda thought he looked a bit like PeeWee Herman...

Well, maybe kinda like a cross between PeeWee (if he'd been tripping his ass off...) and Anthony Perkins when he was in Psycho...




Laura

[customerserviceguy]

55. I really thought

the Boulder DA would manufacture an "inconclusive" from the DNA, so they could have a trial where John Ramsey was on the stand without an attorney to save his ass, guess I was wrong. I guess the DA was just an idiot asshole.

[Vidar]

57. It sold a few newspapers. What more could you ask?

[E-Z-B]

62. Distract! Distract! Distract!

The media went right along with distracting the viewers from the REAL news - like a failing war in Iraq, softening economy, spiraling healthcare costs, etc.

[electron_blue]

74. I thought I read that Homeland Security arranged for one of Karr's first

press conferences. Wonder if that is true.

[TheWatcher]

63. Having served his purpose, of course he was released.

Distraction Acomplished.

It will be fun to see what they come up with next.

Isn't Hell On Earth fun?

[superconnected]

89. super poly iga myst... is the next distraction...

[jakefrep]

65. Is a press moratorium on all things JonBenet is too much to ask for...

....now that this idiot's been released? I don't ever want to hear about that little brat again.

[goodhue]

66. So was this Karr's first trip ever to Boulder?

eom

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

68. That doesn't help him any.

Everybody knows his name and what he looks like, and he'll be branded a murderer for the rest of his life. The fact that he didn't actually commit the crime he was accused of is immaterial. Even though he won't go to jail, he's already been "effectively" found guilty.

[underpants]

71. Isn't there a warrant for him on kiddie porn charges???

:shrug:

[AngryOldDem]

79. Yes

The next step is an extradition process back to California.

My question is, why did they make an arrest before the DNA tests were done? This whole thing stank from Day One.

[LostinVA]

81. Misdemeanor charges -- tried in absentia

He should get time served -- MAYBE a little time in a jail, not a prison.... as per CA lawyers on TV.

They also said no one is EVER extradited from another state for misdemeanor charges.

[specimenfred1984]

84. ATTN JINGOISTIC MORONS

This story is very, very, very important for you to pay extreme attention to!

[Eurobabe]

87. Nice diversion for a couple weeks, way to go media!

:puke:

[Robb]

90. Well, it's all over but the porn movie deal.

Mark my words.

[bleedingheart]

92. I suspected this all along...

I still think he was in trouble in Thailand and he blurted out this whopper of a lie in order to get out of there...