Rumsfeld says terrorists manipulate media

[Newsjock]

http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/breaking_news/15383140.htm

FALLON NAVAL AIR STATION, Nev. - Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Monday he is deeply troubled by the success of terrorist groups in "manipulating the media" to influence Westerners.

"That's the thing that keeps me up at night," he said during a question-and-answer session with about 200 naval aviators and other Navy personnel at this flight training base for Navy and Marine pilots.

... "What bothers me the most is how clever the enemy is," he continued, launching an extensive broadside at Islamic extremist groups which he said are trying to undermine Western support for the war on terror.

"They are actively manipulating the media in this country" by, for example, falsely blaming U.S. troops for civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, he said.

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[babylonsister]

1. Oh, the irony, coming from his mouth no less. nt

[saigon68]

36. HE'S A FUCKING EVIL ASSCLOWN

TRY THIS ONE ON ASS CLOWN ITS MY FAVORITE:



A stray dog feeds on an Iraqi corpse. Marines are now hunting down stray animals grown fat on the flesh from corpses and which could harbor rabies Photo AFP/Cris Bouroncle.



FALLUJAH, Iraq - US troops fire off another volley of shots amid the trashed houses of Fallujah, hunting down new adversaries carrying a potentially deadly weapon that threatens to plague reconstruction efforts.

But this time the marines are not chasing down the insurgents who they defeated in a devastating assault on the city last month. Their quarry is stray animals grown fat on the flesh from corpses and who could harbor rabies.

The marines gather briefly over a pile of trash, one pointing across the dirt lot to a row of burned out homes where moments before a dog was seen loping for cover amid the ruined buildings.

"I think we wounded a couple and they took off that way," he said, as another marine pulled his quarry onto a ridge, its bloodied head rolling side to side in the dust.

[eccles12]

40. Yeah, they are manipulating the media with the truth. n.t

[htuttle]

2. Goldstein strikes again!

Reality has a known left wing bias!

[0007]

19. Those are sure cleaver people, huh Dummy!

[drfresh]

56. man, you got a rough signature -nt

[thepurpose]

3. Rumsfeld needs to be breaking rocks in a military prison camp for all the

bullshit he has fed to the media.

[0007]

22. ....or running from a White Phosphorous attack like the man below

[fooj]

4. Yep. And he's the #1 terrorist doing the manipulating.

[Swede Atlanta]

5. Yes they do, Rummy. . . .

just look in the mirror. This administration is the greatest threat to world peace and progress.

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. Just like the gnarly little ***** manipulated us,

Who is he to talk?

[NanceGreggs]

7. He's absolutely right on this one.

The media IS being manipulated by Terrorist Bush, Terrorist Cheney, Terrorist Rice, Terrorist Rumsfeld, etc. -- you know, those same TERRORISTS that HATE AMERICA for its FREEDOMS!

[im10ashus]

26. Basically all of his friends at PNAC.

He sometimes speaks the truth without even realizing.

[donco6]

8. But . . . aren't we responsible for civilian deaths?

I seem to recall something about Haditha . . . or Abu Graib was it? :sarcasm:

The only thing keeping Rumsfeld up at night is his conscience gnawing at his guts.

[Webster Green]

9. First time I've agreed with him. Thanks for the inside scoop, Rummy...

No news to us at DU that terrorist BushCo Inc. has been manipulating the media.

[Marrak]

13. Don't forget th Overt and Covert Operatives...

the political appointees ensconced through-out the U.S.G. that assisted in manipulating the public (yeah...the one's who don't shine to the possibility of accountability now or in the future.)

"Feith's Office of Special Plans (OSP) and the Pentagon Near East and South Asia (NESA) office:
"ey personnel who worked in both NESA and OSP were part of a broader network of neoconservative ideologues and activists who worked with other Bush political appointees scattered around the national-security bureaucracy to move the country to war, according to retired Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, who was assigned to NESA from May 2002 through February 2003. The heads of NESA and OSP were Deputy Undersecretary William Luti and Abram Shulsky, respectively. Other appointees who worked with them in both offices included Michael Rubin, a Middle East specialist previously with the neoconservative American Enterprise Institute (AEI); David Schenker, previously with the Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP); and Michael Makovsky; an expert on neocon icon Winston Churchill and the younger brother of David Makovsky, a senior WINEP fellow and former executive editor of pro-Likud Jerusalem Post. Along with Feith, all of the political appointees have in common a close identification with the views of the right-wing Likud Party in Israel."

<http://www.antiwar.com/cole/?articleid=3467>

Creeps...and criminals.


:kick:

[Parisle]

21. ...Feith,........ yeah, Bingo.

-----Thank you for the recollection that it was Douglas Feith who managed the administration's primary disinformation and cherrypicking efforts. Feith had also been a long-time colleague of the infamous Ahmad Chalabi,.... The OSP was hastily disbanded, of course,... and Feith essentially disappeared. But he is among the most criminally-culpable members of the Bush administration....

[54anickel]

33. Looks like Feith is teaching at Georgetown, as of May anyway.

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1146

Douglas Feith, the notorious former Pentagon official who has repeatedly been investigated for allegedly distorting prewar intelligence on Iraq, was hired by Georgetown University in May 2006 to teach a course on the Bush administration's strategy in the war on terror. Feith served as the deputy undersecretary of defense for policy, the number three position at the Pentagon, from July 2001 to August 2005.

Although Feith said he wanted to spend more time with his family, his resignation sparked widespread speculation among pundits that he was pressured to leave because of a number of then-ongoing investigations related to the administration's efforts to bolster support for the Iraq War. Juan Cole, history professor at the University of Michigan and author of the blog Informed Comment (juancole.com), wrote in January 2005, when Feith announced his resignation:

“Feith has been questioned by the FBI in relation to the passing by one of his employees of confidential Pentagon documents to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), which in turn passed them to the Israeli Embassy. The Senate Intelligence Committee is also investigating Feith. There seems little doubt that he operated in the Pentagon in such a way as to produce false and misleading ‘intelligence,' that he created an entirely false impression of Iraqi weapons capabilities and ties to al-Qaida, and that he is among the chief facilitators of the U.S. war in Iraq. Feith is clearly resigning ahead of the possible breaking of major scandals concerning his tenure at the Department of Defense, which is among the more disgraceful cases of the misleading of the American people in American history.”

As of late June 2006, Feith has not been charged in connection to his work at the Pentagon, but he remains under investigation. The Department of Defense's inspector general continues to investigate whether the Office of Special Plans (OSP), a specialized outfit set up by Feith within the Pentagon to scrutinize intel on Iraq, deliberately skewed information about the regime of Saddam Hussein (New York Times, May 25, 2006).

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Feith's work at the Pentagon drew widespread criticism from both in and outside government. Gen. Tommy Franks, the commander of the Iraq invasion, once referred to him as the “stupidest guy on the face of the earth.” And when Feith was given his teaching post at Georgetown, several dozen faculty and administrators signed a letter of protest, some accusing him of condoning torture and being guilty of war crimes. Responding to the criticism, Robert Gallucci, dean of Georgetown's School of Foreign Service and former State Department official, said: “I think the war in Iraq is a terrible mistake. But that is not the criteria for whom I bring to campus.” He added that the debate over Feith on campus “is what I want. The debate has begun. The debate, the disagreement—all that is good news” (New York Times, May 25, 2006).

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[zreosumgame]

10. yes, you do Rummy

[katty]

11. well, I guess he is referring to himself & his warmongering gang

[frylock]

12. this reminds me of that scene from the film 'control room'..

Rummy was up before the camera going on and on about how horrible Saddam was. He went on to descripe how Saddam would imprison and torture people. I may have forgotten to mention that I'm watching Rumsferatu flapping his gums about Saddam's atrocities two or three days after the breaking Abu Ghraib story. The theatre was abuzz at the obvious display of irony.

[Rose Siding]

14. Could he be responding to the heat from Reuters?

SUCH a liar, he is. We KNOW civilians are being killed by the US. The DoD gives press releases about them!

Reuters seeks Pentagon probe on journalist's death

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Reuters news agency urged the U.S. military on Sunday to investigate the killing of one of its journalists by American troops in Baghdad a year ago.

An independent inquiry commissioned by Reuters concluded that the soldiers' shooting of television soundman Waleed Khaled on August 28 last year appeared "unlawful".

But the Pentagon has failed to respond to requests to review the local commander's ruling, which said the firing of shots at the car was "appropriate".

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=topNews&storyID=2006-08-27T100113Z_01_L27807060_RTRUKOC_0_US-IRAQ-REUTERS.xml&archived=False

[coalition_unwilling]

15. Physician, Heal Thyself (n/t)

[Thor_MN]

16. how many time an hour are the neocons talking points spewed on

Faux and AM hate radio?

[OKthatsIT]

17. OH SHUT UP...go take a laxative or something.

geeesh.

[NeoConsSuck]

18. "That's the thing that keeps me up at night,"

And what you do to help fall asleep, you cockroach? Count tombstones?

[rodeodance]

20. does this idiot hear his irony?

......"They are actively manipulating the media in this country" by, for example, falsely blaming U.S. troops for civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, he said.

[Skip Intro]

23. How long before they declare the media in this country terra oganizations?

"State-run press, the only channel you'll need (or get) - coming soon to a tv near you."

"Manipulating the media in this country" huh, mr. "we know where the wmds are" - ?

on edit: There is so much wrong in that snip I don't think I can even read the article.

The "only thing that keeps (him) up at night" is the media in this country? The tens and tens of thousands of innocents dead because of him and the bush gang are merely a passing thought, I guess.

What an evil scumbag.

[Anakin Skywalker]

24. And the White House Press Corp Doesn't?

[krispos42]

25. Bush, Cheney, Rove, et. al. DO manipulate the media

ergo terrorists manipulate the media.

Mike Malloy will be quite happy to hear Rummy admit his guilt.

[bobthedrummer]

27. Full spectrum dominance huh? The fog of war ahem... bs...

Rumsfeld's rantings are merely more perception management within the context of strategic influence from an illegal unitary executive's "administration" whose most loyal inner circle is dominated by universal fascists (Straussians).

We've discussed the US origins of criminal domestic psychological operations, disinfo, propaganda in plain language here at DU many times.

Here is a discussion from January of this year.

"Reality vs. perception management"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x71919#top

[YankeyMCC]

28. So someone has apparently removed his irony gland...

or maybe it's just a birth defect.

[rocktivity]

29. Uh, weren't you caught red-handed manipulating the ARAB press, Dick?

Not to mention PAYING American journalists to peddle your policies? If you're right, maybe they're doing it because you've taught them that it works!

:headbang:
rocknation

[lumpy]

30. From Fairbanks News Miner

http://newsminer.com/2006/08/28/1742/

Proud to see anti-Rumsfeld/war protesters in Fairbanks,Alaska doing their duty.

[villager]

31. he should sure know!

n/t

[vssmith]

32. Everyone who has the power to manipulate the media

does so. The rest of us just wish we had that power.

[PurityOfEssence]

34. Donny's just jealous

Manipulating the media's my schtick!

[aaronbees]

35. Finally, he's honest about himself! .... eom

[Cha]

37. Yeah they do and bushshites are the

terrorists.

[tuvor]

38. Catapulting propaganda

[WhoWantsToBeOccupied]

39. You have done enough... Have you left no sense of irony?

You have done enough. Have you no sense of irony sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of irony?

[d_b]

41. Yea he does.

[lumpy]

42. Rumsfeld has always been a

madcap gadfly who has spent his lifetime playing politics purely for the fun of it. His cavalier attitude has been a staple of his personality. He is simply not wrapped tight as is George W. An important cog is missing.

[NuttyFluffers]

43. *waah* "we're helpless against the terrorists' vast resources!" -Rummy

my ass. -Nutty
:eyes:

[krispos42]

54. The terrorists spend $400,000,000,000 a year as well?

Damn, I guess we ARE screwed! :sarcasm:

[leesa]

44. That's rich.

[Vidar]

45. They sure do: FOX, CNN, Limbaugh, Coulter.

[Contrary1]

46. "That's the thing that keeps me up at night."

Yeah, certainly the death of 3,000 American citizens wouldn't do it.

Surely, you don't lie awake thinking of the thousands of brave US troops who will suffer physically the rest of their lives due to the injuries endured on your behalf.

I'm also pretty sure the thousands of "walking wounded" soldiers won't put a dent in your evening snooze.

And I know you don't toss and turn restlessly mourning the deaths of thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens.

But the "manipulating the media" by the "terrorist groups", an abstract idea, much like your "war on terror"...

"That's the thing that keeps me up at night."

Let's all mail the poor man some Nytol.

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

47. Rumsfeld complains of success by extremists in manipulating media

FALLON NAVAL AIR STATION, Nev. (AP) -- Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Monday he is deeply troubled by the success of terrorist groups in "manipulating the media" to influence Westerners.

- snip -

"What bothers me the most is how clever the enemy is," he continued, launching an extensive broadside at Islamic extremist groups which he said are trying to undermine Western support for the war on terror.

"They are actively manipulating the media in this country" by, for example, falsely blaming U.S. troops for civilian deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan, he said.

"They can lie with impunity," he said, while U.S. troops are held to a high standard of conduct.

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I feel sorry for Rummie at times. Each morning when he looks in the mirror he sees Donald Rumsfeld staring at him. It's like starting the morning with Freddie Kruger in your face.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

48. Dear lord is this guy masterful at projection or what?

I feel sorry for Rummie at times. Each morning when he looks in the mirror he sees Donald Rumsfeld staring at him. It's like starting the morning with Freddie Kruger in your face.

and LOFL!

[Viva_La_Revolution]

49. Projection, big time. I noticed it about a year after we invaded Iraq

everything he was saying the 'enemy' was doing was exactly what HE/The Administration was doing.

Highly freaky. :scared:

[jobycom]

50. I say the same thing in my sig line.

[saltpoint]

51. Freddie Kruger is the soul of integrity next to Don Rumsfeld.

[neuvocat]

52. My Irony meter just busted after reading that.

[treestar]

63. Poor Rummy! He doesn't get to lie with impunity!

It's so unfair!

Notice how he conflates himself with the US troops.

[newspeak]

53. oh the irony--are we projecting Rummy?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[pinniped]

55. Rummy the Dummy is correct. These assclowns have....

duped 1/2 of the populace utilizing the 'liberal' media.

These fucks are hilarious. They always blame others for the shit they're doing.

The irony counter is about to roll over.

[H2O]

57. Rumsfeld says Terrorists manipulating media

http://www.comcast.net/news/politics/index.jsp?cat=POLITICS&fn=/2006/08/29/464981.html

This bit struck me.

"The enemy is so much better at communicating," he added. "I wish we were better at countering that because the constant drumbeat of things they say _ all of which are not true _ is harmful. It's cumulative. And it does weaken people's will and lessen their determination, and raise questions in their minds as to whether the cost is worth it," he said alluding to Americans and other Westerners.

So essentially, the reasons I have questions about the war in Iraq is because the terrorists have been manipulating the media(not that this administration wouldn't know about media manipulation, of course). It wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction; the no bid contracts with Halliburton, the fact that our troops don't have body armor etc.

[treestar]

58. Yeah right, Rummy

You're the one trying to manipulate the media.

[Hubert Flottz]

59. He should know...

Who's "manipulating the media"...

Sometimes I think he's the, mother of all conspiracy nuts!

[malaise]

60. Tell Dummy

that actions always speak louder than words.

[ixion]

61. just so I'm clear, Rummy, let me get this straight....

a group of folks hiding in caves and/or living in the desert in the middle east is telling the NYT, WaPo, FAUX New, CNN, M$NBC, etc what to stories to run, or handing them stories to run.

Yeah, sure, Rummy. Have another drink. :crazy:

[depakid]

62. Classic projection

Republicans never cease to amaze me.

Then again- most Americans are such suckers that they fall for it every time.

[Massachusetts]

64. "Rumsfeld says terrorists manipulate media"

"Propaganda is to a democracy what the bludgeon is to a totalitarian state."
Noam Chomsky

[tom_paine]

65. As always, Busheviks project their own evil onto others

How's the Office of Strategic Initiaves going there, Rummy? Is it functioning just as well under it's new name in it's new, secret building?

The loathing I have for these Bushevik scum, for ALL tyrants, is boundless.