Mahmoud Ahmadinejad calls President Bush coward for refusing TV debate

[ECH1969]

The Iranian Embassy in Azerbaijan told the APA President Ahmadinejad commenting on his American counterpart’s refusing his call for a live television debate.

“We offered the persons claiming to support free and transparent release of news to discuss global issues with us and let the world listen to us and then comment on. However, they refused to do this,” Mr. Ahmadinejad said.

Calling President Bush coward Iranian President, “You fear that your real nature will be revealed in the live television debate and the nations will realize that you chose war and crimes for your interest. The US authorities should know that there is no place for violence any more.”

http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=13738

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

1. LOL

This is fun.

[movonne]

15. Tell us something new, we already knew that bush is a coward....

[stepnw1f]

2. He'd Be Right About Mr. AWOL

...

[QuettaKid]

5. I heard Mahmoud read The Stranger

in the original French, nary a Cliffsnotes in sight.

[Canuckistanian]

30. And he's not afraid of horses, either

And, strangely enough, does NOT pass wind in front of his aides.

[VegasWolf]

34. Yes, and Bush in Brian Jennings interview, "I also read me three (holding

up three fingers for the camera) Shakespears too!"

[Sterling]

52. Maybe you can start a campaign for him?

Seriously, if DUers think he is so much better why not try to get the US under his control as well.

Yes Bush is the biggest coward/dumbass to ever lead our country. I still don't see the logic in idealizing this nut job in Iran?

[gorbal]

60. Comment #5 does not resemble "Idealizing"

I would not confuse suggestion that a foreign leader is smarter than Bush with idealizing said leader. In truth, it is not saying much.

[knowbody0]

3. man oh man!

Mr. Danger runs away from words!

[pooja]

4. I hope he keeps saying it... prove he's just a pansy ass to his

following pukes.

[Bonhomme Richard]

6. He doesn't need a TV debate to reveal.....

his nature. We are all aware of what his true nature is.

[AndyA]

7. I would have to agree with Ahmadinejad - Bush is a coward.

I guess I just don't see the gravity of the situation in Iran. They want nuclear power. World oil supplies are dwindling. Perhaps Iran has plenty of oil NOW, but what about 10 years from now? What will they have after they suck billions of barrels out of the ground? What will Iran do for power when the oil is gone, or too expensive to use?

Intelligence tells us that Iran is years away from developing nuclear weapons. How can we deny another country access to nuclear power? We do not rule the world!!

[saskatoon]

26. AndyA you are a wise man

I have often wondered why some countries are allowed and some not in regards to having nuclear power. It is very puzzleing to me. It seems as though there is really no rhyme or reason to the whole thing.

[EnviroBat]

44. But doesn't this sympathetic viewpoint make us terruh'sts?

After all calling our duh'cider a coward certainly makes me feel like a dirty traitor, pinko commie, terrorist hippie, etc... The world has to see whats happening here. The Great People of this Great Nation don't want illegal wars and violence. We have had it with our government, and we are being held hostage to it. Guess I'm a terrorist now.

[bdamomma]

55. hey andy a, apparently bush thinks he runs the whole world

you are correct, I believe Iran wants to have nuclear power not bombs, and Ahmadinejad has said that on a number of occasions. we can rake Iran over the coals how about those countries who have it like Pakistan and North Korea, it all comes down to oil.

[coalition_unwilling]

61. More to the point, why does the US get to keep its nuclear

weapons and not dis-arm as called for in the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, while denying Iran the right to develop nuclear weapons citing that same treaty?

The hypocrisy around this issue is simply enormous and beneath the contempt of anyone who knows anything about the issue.

[gmtmaster]

70. All I can say in response to your post is....

Wow.....You really see a wing nut, who wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth, ad who denies the Holocaust ever even happened, as being OK with nuclear weapons??

Holy shit I am glad you dont have an ounce of power in the government...

[Virginia Dare]

77. We have a dangerous wing nut running this country...

in fact, we have several. The most powerful country in the world, with enough nuclear weapons to send the entire earth to kingdom come many times over. That scares me much more.

[gmtmaster]

79. Wow....

You really need to think about that... We are civilized... Extremists are not...They only understand violence and cant be reasoned with... How about having a group of them living next door to you? Ill bet you would change your mind awfully fast.

[Kailassa]

87. And who was it who said the measure of a civilization

is the care it takes of its poor and its needy?

In the eyes of the world, America is no longer a civilized country.

America has become a greedy, threatening bully, determined to take
all the oil and opium for itself and bomb the world into submission.

[Richard Steele]

95. We do have them living next to us. They're called 'Repubs'.

We manage to get by, and keep living our lives.
That's what CIVILIZED people do.
Of course, it helps that we aren't gutless little
sniveling cowards like B*sh and his buddies in
the (R) party.

[Virginia Dare]

96. This is something for you to think about...

extremists are in charge in this country. They only understand violence and can't be reasoned with. How does that make you feel?

[bperci108]

97. You need to be sanitized from being Hannitized...

"We are civilized... "

Really?

Ask the guys in the AssPile photos from Abu Ghraib about that. Maybe the parents of the deformed kids (caused by our Agent Orange and DU weapons, respectively) in VietNam and Iraq, too.

And don't forget to stop in at Pine Ridge, SD and ask the Sioux how "civilized" we Americans are...visit the Wounded Knee memorial while you're there. ;)


"They only understand violence and cant be reasoned with... "

Hmmm.......They say the same about us.


Why do you assume that this nation, or any other, has the authority, moral or otherwise, to decide what another sovereign nation can do in it's own defense?

Without resorting to some sort of plea to American exceptionalism (which would be intellectually dishonest horseshit)or the just plain 'ol Bully Factor, you can't.

Given the US's history in the overthrow of Iran's government in the past, I don't blame them one bit for pursuing nukes. They are sitting on a big pool of oil that the Bush Criminal Enterprise covets and the petulant child on the throne is drooling at the prospect.

Hence the beating of the War Drum almost hourly on Faux Nooze.

(Edit: spelling error)

[Kailassa]

86. Israel is more dangerous to the world than Iran will ever be.

And pro-Israel "GIYAS" have completely discredited
all internet comments supporting Israel.

[sui generis]

8. batshit, meet stupid. Stupid, batshit.

It is funny though how different cultures value insults and authority.

"The US authorities"
"Coward"

why bush himself coulda said it. gonna smoke him out. dead or alive. heh heh.

but what slays me is "there is no place for violence any more" coming from a freak motherfucker who publicly executes children for being presumed gay.

I guess that doesn't count as violence.

[MADem]

13. Of of COURSE not....that's just 'cultural differences'

Goes with stoning folk to death, hangings, beating the shit out of religious (bahai) minorities and Arab-Iranians, to say nothing of beating the shit out of female demonstrators, http://hrw.org/doc/?t=mideast&c=iran

Real freedom-loving charmers, that bunch.

[Mike Daniels]

18. Yep, people here are unfortunately all too willing to cheer anyone

who takes a poke at Bush even when the poker heads a truly repressive government.

[The Stranger]

35. I see the racial and cultural "Other" -- Launch the Bombers!!

(in voice of George C. Scott's character in "Dr. Strangelove")

[MADem]

51. Well, let's hope it doesn't come to that NT

[SOS]

46. But not as bad as Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia: Court Orders Eye to Be Gouged Out
Saudi Arabia: Teachers Silenced on Blasphemy Charges
Saudi Arabia: 14-Year-Old Boy Faces Execution
Saudi Arabia: Political Reformers Sentenced
Saudi Arabia: Men ‘Behaving Like Women’ Face Flogging

http://hrw.org/doc?t=mideast&c=saudia

Bush's oil pals! No concern for "human rights" there.

[MADem]

50. Well, of COURSE they suck....TOO.

Their dreadful behavior does not mitigate Iran's in any way.

[SOS]

92. Saudi Arabia's totalitarian hell

does not mitigate Iran's human rights violations.

But comparing the two does illuminate the grotesque hypocrisy of US foreign policy.

A woman in Tehran can wear jeans and a T-shirt while driving her car around town.
A woman in Saudi Arabia would be publicly whipped for doing the same.

And yet Bush is "concerned" with human rights in Iran?

Who could possibly believe the US seriously cares about human rights in Iran? It's nothing more than political cover for a bombing campaign.

[MADem]

93. Well, of COURSE we're hypocrites.

Look how we sucked up to all those shitty -stans when we needed FOBs to get into Afghanistan.

We've ALWAYS been hypocrites. So are most countries, especially when one has something that another wants.

We just loves us some Libya lately...never mind that pesky Pan Am 103. And China? Hell, can't let a little human rights violations get in the way of that trade.

There's no surprise there. It was and is always thus. And it's the same all around the world.

Every country pulls this sort of shit--some just aren't as bellicose as others. We suffer today because we have a history of not being quite so awful as others in the past, and now we have a bellicose Puppet Monkey at the helm. And to make it all the more interesting, Iran has one too.

As for the woman in jeans and T-shirt in Teheran, though....she'd better have a scarf on, and that shirt had better be longsleeved and floppy, just like the jeans...AND, she'd better have a long coat or chador at the ready, just in case.

[bdamomma]

59. the bush regime pokes at Iran but this regime are still friends

with the Saudis aren't they, Saudi Arabia is quite an oppressive government.

[MADem]

76. And they are also best pals with Libya, and a host of other shitty

countries who turn their back on human rights. But what's the connection other than that? NONE.

One's ARAB, the other is PERSIAN. One is in greater ARABIA, the other is in southwest ASIA. One is ruled by 'royal' despots, the other by religious despots with a puppet frontman president.

They both have oil. But so do Venezuela and Russia.

What purpose is served by lumping the House of Saud into this debate? They don't even share a common border with Iran.

They don't speak the same language, their cultures are VERY different, and despite the fact that Iranians face Meccah five times a day, they don't even share the same RELIGION (each thinking the other is a perverted 'cult' and bastardization of true Islam).

It's like comparing Guatemalans and Canadians. Same hemisphere, sure...but not much else in common.

[ronnie624]

47. Human Rights Watch,

not being a website for historical research, will not provide the needed context. Namely, that the hundred years or so of brutal intervention in that region by western powers for the purpose of controlling the inhabitant's oil, has probably had more influence on the development of political radicalism in Iran than any other element.

Maybe Westerners need to look in the mirror before passing judgment on Iran.

[MADem]

48. Oh please, the Shah has been gone since seventy nine

They've had coming up on thirty years to get their shit together and get over that dreadful Western influence, which was far less than a hundred years worth, FWIW--BP wasn't pumping Iranian oil in 1879.

And ya know what? The people fucking HATE the government. That stupid Iranian "president" (read: PUPPET) that so many dunces who don't understand the country cheer on? Less than ten percent of the country voted for him. Most people stayed home in protest, after the fucking ayatullahs "decreed" that all the good (read: liberal and reform) candidates were not 'suited' to be on the ballot.

But hey, since the asshole is in line with everyone else in the goddamn world who doesn't like Bush, he MUST have something going for him--news flash: He doesn't. He's a shithead who is actually MORE disliked in his own country than Bush is in his.

So spare me your 'western influence' bullshit. They're nonaligned, they sell their fucking oil to the highest bidder. Us, China, Europe, Japan...you got the dough, they'll make the trade.

But now, instead of a bunch of fatcat westerners and elite Persians splitting the graft from the sale, it's divvied up amongst the Ayatullahs on the ruling Council, and used to permit their n'er do well sons to cavort in the playgrounds of Europe.

Nothing has changed, it's the same bullshit, different players.

[Sterling]

54. Not really.

In the case of SA. They rode around on camels from Oasis to Oasis until our oily's showed up and made them rich. Now they are a 5th century society with a shit ton of money. I don't see how letting any of these societies have nukes is going to make the world a better place.

The ME was fucked up long before we got there, I really don't think we (US)are responsible for making it that way.

[ronnie624]

56. Bigoted, hyperbolic nonsense,

hardly worthy of a response.

[MADem]

9. TWO fucking idiots, carping at each other

Is the lapdog of the panel of Ayatullahs on drugs, or what? The only thing I'd give that asshole is the back of my hand.

That's not to say the idiot he challenged to a debate isn't just as stupid.

[BreweryYardRat]

71. Back of the hand? That's all?

A bullet to the head for fundie-puppet-boy, and more for his Ayatollah puppetmasters, would be much more appropriate.

[Blue_In_AK]

10. The Iranian president is using the same argument

that Alaska's Democratic congressional candidate, Diane Benson, is using against Don Young. After she won the primary, she invited him to participate in three town hall style debates here in the state, and he has refused. It makes you wonder what he's hiding.

[geek tragedy]

11. A real president and leader could hand Ahmadinejad's crazy

ass back to him in a debate. Clinton would spank him hard.


Instead we get the equivalent of a playground name-calling contest.

[MADem]

16. Clinton would ignore him too, and maybe make a snarky comment

that gets publicized somewhere.

But American Presidents, even idiot ones, don't debate crazy figureheads who are front men for a council of Ayatullahs.

[geek tragedy]

20. Bush can't even win a battle of dueling press conferences

and press releases with this chump.

Of course, Bush shouldn't debate the mofo. But, Ahmadinejad senses weakness in Bush and is attacking him in the press.

[Sterling]

58. I guess they also sensed that weakness in Jimmy Carter.

Maybe our next president will fix that for us. All the rhetoric coming from Iran reminds me of the days JC was getting shit on for letting the fanatics control the discourse.

My point is when (if) there is another Dem in control we will have the same lunatic in Iran to deal with. So get over this Iran is a victim shit already. If HC is elected in 08 will many DUers still side with the Iranian nut-jobs?

[GeorgeGist]

27. 'We' are arrogant that way...

which rather gives credence to crazy figureheads everywhere.

[MADem]

33. Arrogant, to ignore a batshit crazy puppet of a religious council?

A guy who less than ten percent of the entire country turned out to vote for? A guy who had all of his good opponents stripped off the ballot so he would have to win, because he was hand picked by the Ayatullahs?

Please. That's not arrogance at all. That's being sensible. That's not wasting time on idiotic stooges!

And the Monkey can be like a stopped clock on this issue, right twice a day.

[The Stranger]

37. Yes, it is arrogant to refuse to communicate with someone you accuse of

extremely serious actions. Yes, this is arrogant. To refuse to debate someone and, instead, to repeatedly accuse them and label them and make attacks against them is arrogant, immature, wrong-headed and supports the belief that one is hiding something.

[MADem]

41. The guy does NOT represent the people of Iran

He's a puppet, a stooge. You think our lousy leader should "debate" this guy on TV? That is a STUPID idea. Profoundly STUPID. That is what the guy wants. We don't raise our shitty profile by pandering to a handpicked NUTCASE.

There's nothing wrong with the State Department communicating with the nation in an effort to forestall any shenanigans vis a vis their nuclear misadventures, but having the Monkey and the Asshole get up on international TV and debate is both STUPID and ABSURD.

[The Stranger]

66. You haven't made any argument in your post, only name-calling.

"Puppet," "stooge," "stupid," "STUPID," "NUTCASE,"Asshole," "ABSURD," etc. -- this isn't contributing to the dialogue.

If it comes to bombing them or debating them, then debate them, and I don't care what how the Chimp in chief looks.

This is most important: If the Neocons are refusing to debate because they need some pretense to go to war, and they will not take no for an answer, then they must be stopped.

Before the last catastrophic quagmire, Saddam Hussein was bending over backwards trying to keep the NeoNaziCons from invading, and no one was able to find out about this because the war-whores needed their blood, death, torture and murder fix. If a debate can head off this, then a debate it is.

We're adults. We can decide for ourselves what we think about this man.

[MADem]

74. Gee, read the whole thread and learn a little something

Iran has had almost thirty years without Western overlords.

Less than ten percent of Iranians voted for your hero. Most stayed home in protest because the progressive and liberal candidates were stripped off the ballot.

That land is ruled by opressive religious zealots who are especially brutal with regard to women's rights. Oh, and it's best not to be gay in that society either.

Do a little research on who really runs Iran. It ain't the loudmouthed midget frontman who was hand picked by the Ayatullahs, and who probably has an earpiece in his ear just like the Chimp. Instead of Rove holding his hand, it's some junior Ayatullah in a black turban telling him what to say.

A debate, even one with you on the sidelines as an enthusiastic cheerleader, would solve NOTHING, because the people of the world aren't VOTING on which nitwit they like best. And it's not in our history to put an idiot up against another idiot to make fools of us all. We have something called a STATE DEPARTMENT that should be negotiating this matter. We also have an ambassador at the UN who should be working the issue as well. It is unfortunate that both of those outlets are staffed by neocon bozos, but we can only hope they, like a million monkeys, can come up with a paragraph of Shakespeare.

But I must say, the fact that you actually would like to see this foolish debate take place is extremely instructive. You've let me know all I need to know about where you are coming from, what your worldview is, and how your thought process works....so think away, adult! Enjoy!

[InkAddict]

43. Which one is the

"bat sh*t crazy puppet of a religious (council)? I'm having a hard time choosing.

[MADem]

75. Heh, heh

The similarities between the two are astounding....except that our Monkey actually has higher poll numbers than their Monkey.

[oblivious]

80. Guardian: "A year on, Ahmadinejad's popularity is soaring"

"He's more popular now than a year ago. He's on the rise," said Nasser Hadian-Jazy, a professor of political science at Tehran University. "I guess he has a 70% approval rating. right now. He portrays himself as a simple man doing an honest job. He's comfortable communicating with ordinary people."

While there are no reliable national opinion polls in Iran, western diplomats acknowledged that support for Mr Ahmadinejad is growing, defying predictions after last June's election that he would not last more than three months.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,,1802280,00.html

[MADem]

82. "While there are no reliable national opinion polls in Iran"

to quote the article. But we're supposed to believe a guy who OWES HIS JOB at the state-run and controlled university, and his livelihood to the good offices of the Iranian Ayatullahs as to the mood of the country. I hardly think the guy is at seventy percent. If he's at forty I'd be surprised. Of course, he started out at about seven, so he has nowhere to go but up. And so long as they can drum up "critical mass" for his policies (what a sport, letting women go to football matches! Freedom is on the march!) the ayatullahs will make sure the vote count favors him.

No one seems to understand there is a resistance going on in Iran. The bulk of the population is under twenty five, and they are NOT happy. They want reform and liberalization, not the tyranny of the ruling Council.

This guy may tweak Bush, but he's not a nice person. He's pretty lousy, actually. And I'd wager that his popularity is transitory and centers around that single Bush-tweaking/nuke issue, much like Bush parlayed Nine Wun Wun and Terra Without End to raise his numbers.

You want some flavor of the country? Read this whole article--it's good: http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14609379/

"We have no such thing as majority rule in Islam," Koochakzadeh proclaims. "If the majority says, 'We don't want an Islamic regime,' they have no right."........."For 27 years, you and yours have been running this country. Why is there still so much corruption?"

The reply, which runs for several paragraphs, ends with: "Most of the trouble we have has been plotted by the United States and our enemies. And part of it is you voted for people you shouldn't have." He mentions a "stupid" presidential candidate who offered every Iranian $60 a month.

From the back, a man shoots back: "This person you're talking about was much closer to Imam Khomeini than many people in high positions."

Another man calls out: "There were others who promised to put oil money on the tablecloth!" The reference is to the candidate who won, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.



This OP-ED, by a Persian Jew, is also instructive: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/02/opinion/02hakakian.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

It is a very complex society, and things there are not always as they seem.

[oblivious]

83. Why is Ahmadinejad so popular?

1. He's not as socially conservative as people expected. For example he doesn't agree with bothering people about their clothes and hair style, saying it should be none of the government's business. He tried (unsuccessfully) to get the law changed to allow women to attend football matches.

2. He is not corrupt.

3. He has vowed to fight corruption.

4. He has attacked the privileges enjoyed by some of Iran's ruling clerical elite.

5. He has vowed to put the country's oil wealth on the people's tables.

6. He has arranged for government loans for marriages or rents, appealing to the rural poor.

7. He promised to institute monthly stipends for citizens.

8. He is focusing on reducing unemployment and improving housing.

9. He has promised to pursue a path of moderation.

10. He has promised the electorate a "government of 70 million".

11. He stands up to the West.

12. He appeals to nationalism.

13. He is defiant about protecting Iran's legal right to pursue the development of nuclear technology for peaceful purposes.

14. He managed to make Israel a major focus in discussions of the nuclear issue.

15. He is against WTO membership if it would hurt Iran's economy.

16. He is against privitisation because he says it would increase unemployment.

17. He has increased Iran's stature in the region, and as far away as Indonesia and Nigeria, both among Shiites and Sunnis.

[MADem]

85. Yeah, he's so delightful!!

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/15E6BF77-6F91-46EE-A4B5-A3CE0E9957EA.htm

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has openly called for Israel to be wiped off the map.


"The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world," the president told a conference in Tehran on Wednesday, entitled The World without Zionism.

"The skirmishes in the occupied land are part of a war of destiny. The outcome of hundreds of years of war will be defined in Palestinian land," he said.

"As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map," said Ahmadinejad, referring to Iran's revolutionary leader Ayat Allah Khomeini.

His comments were the first time in years that such a high-ranking Iranian official has called for Israel's eradication, even though such slogans are still regularly used at government
rallies. ...

And this lovely discussion of the Holocaust: http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,418660,00.html
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/editorials/articles/2006/08/30/ugly_images_in_iran/

And his opinion about atheism being the root of all evil: http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-236/0609014254165454.htm

DS has an interesting take on the whole nuke/diplomacy issue: http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,434781,00.html

You will never find me in his fan club, or that of his controllers, the Ayatullahs who run the show from behind the scenes.

[The Stranger]

36. Clinton wouldn't be the position the U.S. is now, but why not debate?

What is the fear of debating the Iranians? Debate is always better than bombing innocents?

Why not debate him?

[geek tragedy]

38. We shouldn't debate him or bomb Iran.

They should ignore the hateful asshat and let the Iranian people decide his fate.

[The Stranger]

63. I would agree with that, but this is simply setting the table for a war.

They are never going to leave it alone.

[geek tragedy]

67. That's where the American people have to step up

and remove these bungholes from power.

2006 is the first step.

[MADem]

42. Please stick to the subthread you initiated above, don't ask the same

foolish question twice.

[Sterling]

57. I would never want our country to allow it's leader to "debate" a piece of

shit like the guy running Iran. These are the kinds of people you wipe off your shoe after you stomp them, not "debate" their insane bullshit in front of the world. Dignifying these guys is something even dip shit Bush is too smart to do.

[bdamomma]

62. No bush rather just avoid all talk and bomb the hell out of

another innocent country, that sits on a wealth of oil. now who is crazier?????????

[whistle]

12. Iran has until midnight tonight to stop nuclear enrichment, after which

....Dubya starts dropping bombs on Iran nuclear facilities, correct?

[0007]

40. If you think the U.S. is a pariah now wait until the first bomb is dropped

[masonfl]

14. Debating this guy would be dumb for any president

I agree that Bush is dumb as a door knob and Clinton could probably talk circles around the Iranian president. But it would be foolhardy for any president to agree to debate this guy. I find him to be a pretty scary character. I'm also a little surprised that people on DU would trust him when he says that they're only developing their nuclear capabilities for power/peaceful purposes. That may be true but I certainly would not give them the benefit of the doubt. Would any of you really put it past these people to build the bomb and use it for nefarious purposes...or give it to someone else who would?

[FormerDem06]

17. He's gonna get that Iman out of that well if its the last thing he does...

geez.

[MADem]

19. The model, or the Jordanian princess?

Or did someone throw an IMAM down the well?

I'm sure most folks would want to rescue this lady:

http://cdn-channels.netscape.com.nyud.net:8090/gallery/i/i/iman/lg1.jpg

[FormerDem06]

28. Oops those keys are right beside each others....

She doesn't quite look like the Mahdi now does she?

[Irreverend IX]

21. Telephone debate?

Hell, I'd like to see a cage match between these two.

[PATRICK]

22. Bush has nothing to prove

in that department. Actually the response should have been less high blown. they should has showed pictures of Bush with the "hump" still blowing the debate, the dead air incidents and other amusing scenes.

"We actually thought it would lighten up the tension for a really funny show." Then he should shake his head sadly and bemoan the fact of getting any real talks accomplished with such a disabled leader did not hold out much hope for avoiding a neocon planned war.

[SpiralHawk]

23. D'oh - we knew that when AWOL skipped out on Vietnam and deserted TANG

Get with the program, Azer baby.

[Lisa]

24. Mahmoud, we are way ahead of you!

There were people saying this about Bush even before the 2000 election: “You fear that your real nature will be revealed in the live television debate". Even Bush's team realized this, and that's why they asked for so many concessions during the debate negotiations.

And as for "the nations will realize that you chose war and crimes for your interest" -- well, d'uh -- why do you think tens of millions of people in countries around the world, hit the streets in the days before the Iraq invasion?

[BreweryYardRat]

72. Uh, Lisa, please tell me you're not showing any respect for that jackass.

He doesn't deserve it.

[truthisfreedom]

25. yawn. these two deserve each other.

but if bush spends one penny of our tax dollars to invade Iran, i swear i'll never pay taxes again.

[PittPoliSci]

29. i'd actually like to watch cheney debate him.

cheney would get real jacked, tell him to go fuck himself. i think it would be funny.

[ckramer]

31. The whole world would stop watching if there was such a debate

I would take a day off staying home watch it.

But you know who's gonna lose the debate.

[VegasWolf]

32. Bush is just no good at that speakin' and thinkin' stuff. nt

[EnviroBat]

45. It's hard werk...

[Eurobabe]

39. They wouldn't let Georgie wear a wire

so he could be prompted like in the debates 2004. So DimSon stomped his feet and said 'No, not gonna do it, wouldn't be prudent!'

[MikeyJones]

49. Don't like the bastard but I gotta agree with him nt

[davekriss]

53. Bush has proven himself a coward in many ways

For example, in his refusal to meet with Cindy Sheehan in her first Crawford vigil. Bush is gutless, he cannot handle anyone who might question his grasp of any situation. Classic hallmark of somebody suffering from Narcissitic Personality Disorder.

[bdamomma]

64. bush avoids all sorts of dialogue with anyone, he would rather

just bomb and kill innocent people and spread his sick idea of democracy. :grr:

[gulliver]

65. Ahmadinejad would not be President of Iran but for Bush

Where's the gratitude?

[Psephos]

68. I would prefer to see them mud wrestle, personally. n/t

[lpbk2713]

69. Watch it there Mahmoud. You're gonna make Georgie cry.

And then Uncle Dick won't like that at all.

[yurbud]

73. If Bush can't set rules, he can't win any debate.

[Spinoza]

78. I can see it now.

"Mr. President,
Do you now, or have you ever, believed that the so-called 'Holocaust' really happened?"

[HuffleClaw]

81. how very right he is

bush can't conduct a debate without cheating.

[Skittles]

84. tell us something we don't know, Mahmoud

:o

[Truthiness Inspector]

88. What is up for debate?

I don't care who our president is, I would not want him/her debating a kook who thinks Israel should be wiped out and says the people of the world should bow and surrender to him and if we don't, they will make us do so.

Fuck that, big time.

[neuvocat]

89. Al Gore and John Kerry can tell you the same thing.

In fact so can the republicans who were running for the GOP '00 nomination at the time.

[pinniped]

90. No surprise here. * is a little chicken shit.

This little turd pussied out on the duel Sadaam challenged him to.

I bet Teddy Roosevelt would haved took him up.

[MrSlayer]

91. I thought Chimpy should have accepted Saddam's duel challenge.

That would have been interesting.

[Joey Liberal]

94. He's right, Bush is a coward. n/t