Breaking: Bush Announcement: High-Value Prisoners In Secret CIA Prisons

[ECH1969]

BUSH ANNOUNCEMENT: HIGH-VALUE PRISONERS IN SECRET CIA PRISONS WILL BE GRANTED SAME PROTECTIONS AS OTHER PRISONERS

http://abcnews.go.com/?CMP=EMC-1396

[spinbaby]

1. Ah, this must mean...

...someone was about to nail them in the courts.

[eccles12]

24. Fearing Congressional losses by Republicans...impeachment.

Time to fess up and move on in Rove's mind. Good move, I say, although I hate it. These evil beings are pretty smart.

[liberal N proud]

2. SECRET CIA PRISONS?

Holy crap! Did the bu$h just admit there are Secret prisons?

[lumpy]

3. Kick and read

v

[Felinity]

5. I think you forgot to Kick, mine was the first n/t

[coalition_unwilling]

30. Complete and utter violation of Geneva Conventions. Makes

BFEE entirely liable to criminal prosecution in International Criminal Court the minute they are out of office and step one foot on land where ICC has jurisdiction, like Western Europe.

[tbyg52]

37. Yep.

Think anything will happen to him on that account? (Yeah right.)

Oh by the way, he doesn't condone torture. :sarcasm:

[wicket]

39. Yessirreebob!

:popcorn:

[Kber]

4. Does this mean the other prisoners are fucked?

Just asking.

[Felinity]

6. D'oh!

Is the Pope Catholic?

[dave29]

7. compassionate incarceration

they will call it

[54anickel]

8. High-Value Detainees Will Be Given Prisoner-of-War Status

http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=2400470

Sept. 6, 2006 — ABC News has learned that President Bush will announce that high-value detainees now being held at secret CIA prisons will be transfered to the Department of Defense and granted protections under the 1949 Geneva Conventions.

A source familiar with the president's announcement says it will apply to all prisoners now being held by the CIA, including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept.11 attacks and senior al Qaeda leader Ramzi Binalshibh. The source says there are "about a dozen" prisoners now being held by the CIA.

Until now, the U.S. government has not officially acknowledged the existence of the CIA prisons.

The Bush administration has come under harsh criticism for its handling of detainees captured in the U.S.-led military campaign to root out al Qaeda terror cells abroad.

more...

Is this the beginning of a work around to his problem of the military tribunals?

[maddezmom]

10. Is this the beginning of a work around to his problem of the military trib

looks like it to me

[54anickel]

27. Oh yeah, here it is in this article.....

http://voanews.com/english/2006-09-06-voa47.cfm

In his speech, Mr. Bush called on Congress to approve legislation he is submitting today to hold military tribunals for Guantanamo detainees. In June, the U.S. Supreme Court rejected Mr. Bush's plan for such tribunals, saying Congress must pass a law to create them.

The president said about 455 detainees remain at Guantanamo.

Mr. Bush called on Congress to clarify the rules on fighting the war on terror, particularly those covering what acts are considered war crimes. He asked lawmakers to make sure terrorists cannot use the Geneva Conventions to sue U.S. service personnel for simply doing their jobs.


They've got to work quickly before hitting the campaign trail. All they've got is fear-mongering and their idea of National Security. ABC called it the other morning. I hope the Dems are awake and paying attention.
http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=2391863

[havocmom]

13. Somebody got a whiff that they were in a lotta trouble?

Not everyone in the international legal community is buying the crap Alberto is peddling?

Could some of the good-guy spooks handed over some interesting info to some international pals?

Paging Larry Johnson... The civil war is getting interesting here in the US.

[ps1074]

9. another number 2?

eom

[muriel_volestrangler]

11. Which means Red Cross visits. Anything else at all?

It's not as if the prisoners at the non-secret Guantanamo are getting proper trials or anything.

[w4rma]

12. Good. This is how it always was until this crowd. 150 year old law. (nt)

[Massachusetts]

14. "SECRET CIA PRISONS "

"I have often thought that if a rational Fascist dictatorship were to exist, then it would choose the American system."
Noam Chomsky

[The Stranger]

15. When the Cabal is finally arrested, they want to have some rights for them

selves. The wheels of justice turn slowly . . . .

[rustydog]

16. The Bush gang announcing they intend to follow the decision

of federal judges that GW (Gutless wonder) Bush has been violatin the constitution is just another sign this Administration's grip on absolute power is slipping.

[Joanne98]

17. "IT'S A SET UP" Vote NO!

[Benhurst]

18. Recommended #8

[louis-t]

19. Secret prisons? We don't have secret prisons.

Really, we don't, no such thing, never happened, I am outraged at the accusation! :sarcasm:
How can the American public ignore this? Where's the outrage? Same apathy happened when Cheney said he had no connection to Halliburton anymore. When it became public that he did have a connection, he said he would donate any profits. Right. But the fact is, no one is holding them accountable for obvious, provable, documented, videotaped lies.

[Pastiche423]

20. Wait a minute...

"...including Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, the alleged mastermind of the Sept.11 attacks..."

I thought that was Osama's title.

[Straight Shooter]

21. Next announcement: "We did not torture them, so stop saying that."

Did one of those HVP's die in a secret prison that until his announcement did not exist?

Can someone find a quote where bush or any other member of his administration categorically denied the existence of these prisons?

[rocktivity]

22. But THE VERY FACT that they are in secret CIA prisons

means they're NOT getting the same protections as other prisoners. Has Bush outed the CIA once again???

:crazy:
rocknation

[daleo]

23. Secret CIA prisons?

That sounds a lot like the "secret KGB prisons" we used to hear about, back in the day. Or the "secret Gestapo prisons" we used to hear about, even further back in the day. In those days, the very existence of such things was condemned by the west (especially the U.S. government).

[coalition_unwilling]

31. Or the infamous "desaparacidos" of Argentine past, when

Argentina was ruled by military junta. (Not sure of Spanish spelling, but it translates to "disappeareds" in English). Come to think of it, all those Latin American torture regimes learned their trade from the U.S. Army's School of the Americas. A lot of techniques seen at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere have their antecedents in Latin American wars of the '80s.

[Karmageddon]

25. High Value? Is Osama in the crowd? Bush started talking about him again

Wouldn't surprise me if they didn't pull OBL out of their asses and parade him around at a convenient time just before the election to show that they ARE winning the war on terrah. Why else would dumbass all of a sudden start talking about him again after not mentioning him for 3 years?

[Communism_not_USA]

26. Years of effort and millions of dollars

yet all they have are 14 people in secret prison, less than 500 in Gitmo, and 12 released from Gitmo were recaptured engaged in terrorist acts. Does this sound effective??

Are all the government money and efforts netting only this many terrorists???

Not one execution or sentence??

It is time to say that the Democrats will go get these guys more aggressively and effectively than the Bush Administration. Take their one and only issue away by ridiculing the puny returns on all the tax dollars spent on this. No bin Laden in 5 years? Being more aggressive on terror and saying Bush is not getting the job done is the way to approach the elections.

[truthisfreedom]

28. kkkarl must have reached some critical date looking at the elections, and

knew this was an impeachable offense...

[Judi Lynn]

29. It's quite a stunner learning water boarding can be traced to the Italian

Inquisition. We've come a long way, baby.



Anyone who can deny Republicans are regressive is certifiable.

[Supersedeas]

32. American President concedes the existence of American gulags

[Bragi]

33. So intn'l law applies to the US?

Who could have seen that coming.

- B

[Jack Rabbit]

34. Ah, yes, another violation of human rights. Another impeachable offense

I know, we're talking Khalid Sheik Mohammad's rights, so why should we care?

1. No one should accept assurances from Mr. Bush, many times proved to be a liar, that human rights are guaranteed to detainees in secret prisons. that includes that detainees will receive a fair trial in secret. A fair secret trial is an oxymoron.
2. If Khalid is as bad as we are led to believe, then why should the government fear trying him in fairly and in the open? If he's all they say he is (and I have no reason to doubt it), then they've got plenty on him. The reason for a public trial is so that we, the public, will know that he is as bad as they say and not a just man being squirreled away and silenced (as, no doubt, some will claim).
3. If we give Khalid a trial, it is assurance that everyone charged with heinous crimes will receive a fair trial. On that point, Mr. Bush ought to make sure Khalid gets a fair and public trial out of enlightened self interest.

[xsheep]

35. the real news is the last line

"As soon as Congress approves his request, the men suspected of orchestrating the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Towers in 2001 will be prosecuted."

Now why would Bushco want to move KSH and others who are truly connected to 9/11, to the head of the line for prosecution, hmmm? And is the first one going to take place in, say, October?

[sofa king]

36. Welcome to DU, xsheep!

There's something that concerns me about this. If they've just made a case against themselves as international criminals... where are they going to drag off that two trillion dollars they've "disappeared" from the Department of Defense? I fear the answer may be, "they're not going anywhere."

[young_at_heart]

38. Karl Rove at work .....to try this slam dunk before the election

It's amazing how they keep spinning and spinning. Also, very depressing!

[humbled_opinion]

40. Humans call em Secret Prisons to bugs they are roach motels n/t

[Eugene]

41. AP: Red Cross plans to visit alleged top terror leaders at Guantanamo

Red Cross plans to visit alleged top terror leaders at Guantanamo

Updated 9/7/2006 10:09 AM ET

GENEVA (AP) — The international Red Cross said Thursday that it planned
visits "very soon" with some of the world's most notorious terror detainees
at the Guantanamo Bay prison, where President Bush said they had been
transferred from secret CIA facilities.

European lawmakers renewed their demands to know the locations of the secret
detention centers that Bush acknowledged for the first time Wednesday. U.N.
Secretary-General Kofi Annan said there must be no "trade between the
effective fight against terrorism and protection of civil liberties."

Bush defended the program by saying it forced a small number of detainees held
in secret CIA prisons overseas to reveal plots to attack the United States and
its allies.

He said the International Committee of the Red Cross would be advised that the
men — Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Ramzi Binalshibh, alleged architects of the
Sept. 11 attacks, and 12 other alleged terrorist leaders — were in detention
at the prison in Cuba and the group will have the opportunity to meet with them.

-snip-

Full article: http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-09-07-icrc-cuba_x.htm