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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:49 PM
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Poland denies 'secret' CIA jails
POLISH President Lech Kaczynski has overnight again denied the existence of secret CIA prisons in Poland, following US President George Bush's admission that such prisons did exist outside the United States.

Mr Kaczynski said that since he came to power in December 2005 "there has been no secret prison. I am 100 per cent sure of it."

Mr Kaczynski added that: "I am assured that there never were any in the past either." Krzysztof Lapinski, spokesman for the minister in charge of Poland's intelligence services, said on Thursday that President Bush's declarations on the US spy agency's use of foreign detention centres "in no way change what we have said before."

"There have not been and there are not any CIA prisons in Poland," he said.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20374591-1702,00.html
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:51 PM
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1. And the other twin says ditto
"I am 100 per cent sure of it."
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:52 PM
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2. And the CIA denies it's exists as well?
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praeclarus Donating Member (203 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:56 PM
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5. if he says "read my lips, no CIA jails"
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 04:58 PM by praeclarus
Then I'll believe him. Oh wait....

edit: Dang. Was supposed to be at the end
of the thread. I keep doing that.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:58 PM
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6. Me Too
That would be all the convincing I would need..... (Well, maybe not).
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:54 PM
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3. Reliable reports from Amnesty & others put them in Jordan,
and other places in the ME as well as on board Navy ships. The European ones are only mentioned as speculation.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 05:02 PM
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7. My guess would be a more closed society so sounds about right
Heck Ireland would not some planes landing they did not like. England got a little up tight about it also. I think Italy has a case going to court on some of this stuff. Poland has a long history of such stuff with Germany and Russia so one wonders if they would let them in even for a 'friend'
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 06:28 PM
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10. Yeah, no. In Western Europe at least
the Shrub fans were surely doing no more than facilitating.

Look at places not very far from places like Rabat to locate the actual 'prisons'.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-08-06 04:55 AM
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16. I just do not know much about Morocco but
It would seem to be a place it could happen. I believe it is a police state.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 04:56 PM
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4. Not to Denigrate the Land of My Ancestors, But Pull the Other One!
My family left for economic freedom, but if we were in Poland today, we would leave for religious freedom. The Catholic Church has the home of Unitarianism sewn up in a shroud of ignorance and belligerence, kinda like the US, only much further along.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 05:05 PM
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8. What about
Romania despite their denials ? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/5056614.stm
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 05:42 PM
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9. of course it's not a secret
he knows all about them. It was only a secret to us.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 07:15 PM
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11. Poland not forgotton, returns favor :sarcasm: n/t
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 07:41 PM
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12. Poland knows they can be tried at the International Court for War Crimes
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 09:22 PM
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13. A Proud Member of the
Coalition of the Willing that Shrub boasted about?
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 09:36 PM
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14. hell, i forgot about Poland
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-07-06 09:36 PM
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15. hell, i forgot about Poland
Edited on Thu Sep-07-06 10:16 PM by DiktatrW
edit: hell i forgot i posted this already
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