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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:45 AM
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Frustrated Bush defends US interrogation tactics

http://www.turkishpress.com/news.asp?id=141586

Frustrated Bush defends US interrogation tactics

WASHINGTON - US President George W. Bush defended controversial US interrogation tactics and secret CIA prisons in an interview broadcast Monday and expressed frustration at being "second-guessed" overseas.

Rejecting charges that US questioners used torture to extract information from terrorism suspects, and dismissing international concerns about covert CIA facilities, Bush told NBC television: "Whatever we have done is legal."

"My job is to protect this country," he said in an interview recorded Friday. "And I'm going to within the law. And it gets second-guessed all the time by people who don't live in the United States."

"Let me remind you: September the 11th for them was a bad day; for us it was a change of attitude," he said as the United States marked five years since those attacks. "This isn't make-believe."

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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:47 AM
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1. This isn't make believe,
like those WMD, like the connection between Saddam and 9/11, like the rolling plutonium factories or whatever they were, like the yellowcake deals, like all the other 'evidence' that led to war and thousands upon thousands of needless deaths.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:48 AM
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2. He's a Very Sick Man... and He is Endangering Our Country
not only with the rhetoric and lies he has been spewing for 6 long years, but his demented perspective on life and freedom is destroying our country from within, weakening us all against terrorism.

He is playing into the fear of terrorism like a scared, paranoid child... or is he the terrorist himself. Hard to tell these days with so much evidence out there.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:10 PM
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20. He obtains Sexual Arousal from Tales ot Torture
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:49 AM
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3. "...for them was a bad day"?
For THEM? World's MOST incoherent speaker
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:53 AM
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7. For non-Americans, apparently. (like Canadians, Europeans)
And they just can't understand.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:15 AM
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14. I truly believe he slips & tells what he's really thinking sometimes.
I think in his mind the "them" is the people in America who are not with him so therefore they're against him—or maybe even all U.S. citizens (as in "the little people"). The "us" is the people in charge, the ones with the power.

He did it that time when he said "they never stop thinking of ways to harm the American people, and neither do we." He blurts out the truth sometimes when he has to speak extemporaneously. His mind isn't structured well enough for him to be a cunning liar.
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:59 PM
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22. You know, "them," as in "us vs. them"
... with the "us" being himself, Torquemada Cheney, and Joe Lieberpuke; and the "them" being everyone else on the planet.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:49 AM
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4. Damn, I wish someone would publicly call Bush on his lies. n/t
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:49 AM
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5. But to him the law is "if the president does it, it is legal" re: war
Of course he says it's within the law, because there's no legal limit as far as he's concerned.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:53 AM
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6. By people who don't live in the United States?
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 10:53 AM by MaineDem
U.S. to Mr Bush: You're being second guessed by those living here as well, you ignorant fuckwit!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 10:58 AM
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8. perhaps someone read him the artcle saying other countries are angry?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:02 AM
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10. No, His perspective is ALWAYS a WE and THEM..
haven't you noticed?
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:10 AM
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13. If you're not with us you're against us
This man makes my blood boil. And I get so frustrated by the lack of response to his lies and hubris.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:08 AM
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12. Or made a DVD for him
:eyes:
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:05 PM
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18. Gee, I live in California
Of course, he probably doesn't consider blue states part of the Union. He is able to expel us by a secret, hidden clause in the Constitution that only Cheney and Gonzales can find.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:00 AM
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9. Frustrated? How About Scared S***less?
This is one of those frogs in the pot situations--it's beginning to dawn on the witless amphibians that their goose is cooked. (Too many metphors spoiling the broth, but it is fun!)
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:05 AM
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11. If what he's done is legal, then why is he trying to change the law?
If Bush is truly convinced that his corrupt administration has acted within the law, why is he trying to get his meat puppet Arlen Specter to change the law?

And hasn't the Supreme Court already ruled that he's acting outside the law? That is to say, illegally?
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:21 PM
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24. i ask that too, and wonder when will MSM ask that. what would be his
Edited on Mon Sep-11-06 01:21 PM by leQ
response? i'd sure like to know what could he would say to such a proposition.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:31 PM
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25. Katie probably asked him
But it ended up on the cutting room floor. Yeah, I'm sure that's what happened.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:30 AM
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15. Tell it to the tribunal, Frat Boy.



The Palace of Peace
The Hague
Home of the International Criminal Court

Photo from the Dossier Nederland (The Netherlands)
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:30 AM
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16. technically legal is not the same as civilized

Silly me, I thought he speechified that this fight was about civilization, not technical legality. Oh, and doesn't he claim to be all about "morality"?
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 11:33 AM
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17. Correction: He said "pertect", not "protect".
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:06 PM
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19. Will someone use those interrogation tactics on Bush & Cheney so we can
finally get the truth on everything from why 9/11 happened to the Invasion and Occupatin of Iraq?

:applause:

Atleast use them on them to see what they think about them, before they get outright banned by sane and honorable members of Congress and the Senate.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 12:12 PM
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21. I wish he were "make-believe", then all we would have too do is wish
him away, into a corn field or somewhere. Wasn't his "job" to "protect this country" before 9/11, or maybe no one told him that? I am so SICK AND TIRED of his condescending attitude! :argh:
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chat_noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:11 PM
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23. Der Leader
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:44 PM
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26. "If we did it, then it must have been legal."
That's what happens when the same branch of government makes, enforces and oversees the "law."
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-11-06 01:52 PM
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27. and it is second guesses and ruled unconstitutional by US Fed Judges
but that doesn't stop the lil Chimperor.

No discussion of interrogations tactics is complete without some mention of the al-Libi case:

<The NYTimes reports, as diaried here, that the false statements of an Al Qaida-Iraq link made by captured Al Qaida leader Ibn Al-Shaykh Al-Libi, relied upon by the Bush Administration to argue in favor of the Iraq war, came as a result of torture threats:

< officials said the captive, Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi, provided his most specific and elaborate accounts about ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda only after he was secretly handed over to Egypt by the United States in January 2002, in a process known as rendition.

<The new disclosure provides the first public evidence that bad intelligence on Iraq may have resulted partly from the administration's heavy reliance on third countries to carry out interrogations of Qaeda members and others detained as part of American counterterrorism efforts. The Bush administration used Mr. Libi's accounts as the basis for its prewar claims, now discredited, that ties between Iraq and Al Qaeda included training in explosives and chemical weapons.

<If the illegality of torture and the immorality of torture and extraordinary rendition are not sufficient for the rejection of these inhuman and barbaric practices, perhaps the American People might consider the fact that the use of torture and extraordinary rendition was a direct cause of the United States making the biggest strategic blunder since Vietnam.

DailyKos
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