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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 12:08 PM
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Taliban more dangerous now than al Qaeda: Musharraf

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=worldNews&storyID=2006-09-12T150335Z_01_L12808784_RTRUKOC_0_US-SECURITY-PAKISTAN-TALIBAN.xml&archived=False

Taliban more dangerous now than al Qaeda: Musharraf

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf warned the West on Tuesday that Taliban insurgents were a more dangerous terrorist force than al Qaeda because of the broad support they have in Afghanistan.

Five years after the 9/11 attacks on the United States masterminded by al Qaeda and the subsequent U.S. invasion of Afghanistan to topple the Taliban, Musharraf said Taliban fighters had regrouped in southern Afghanistan.

"The center of gravity of terrorism has shifted from al Qaeda to the Taliban," he told EU lawmakers who quizzed Musharraf on Pakistan's counter-terrorism efforts.

"This is a new element, a more dangerous element, because it (the Taliban) has its roots in the people. Al Qaeda didn't have roots in the people," he said.


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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:08 PM
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1. We'd better give him more money not to find OBL with....nt
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plasticsundance Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:10 PM
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2. Didn't Musharraf just grant amnesty to the Taliban in Pakistan?
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:26 PM
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3. That was the report last week from his military...but Rove soon got
his speeches back on the path. As Rove well knows, it's one thing to do something and a whole 'nother thing to admit to it.
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nealmhughes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 01:33 PM
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4. Well, duuuh...and your government has coddled them from day one.
Why didn't the Northern Alliance get to finish them off?

Looks like the only hope for Afghanistan right now is to get the king back and form a real Government of National Salvation for all Afghans: Tajiks, Baluchis, Kafirs, Pashtuns, etc.

Zair Shah is the only monarch I know of who was deposed in a coup for being too democratic! He is the only source of unity has Afghanistan has now. The tribal and ethnic divisions are destroying the country, aided by Wahhabi money.

The root of all this mess goes back to people trying to fart around in Afghanistan and using any money that is thrown them to bankroll the factions: Britain, then Pakistan/US, then the Saudis ... lets remember why al Qaeda was formed: to spread the Wahhabi vision throughout the entire world and to remove the "infidel" from "holy" Arabian and Judean soil...

We played with fire when we touted the Taliban against the Russians. Now we are burnt. The Northern Alliance's glory days are a dim memory and Karzai tries to be all to all: a little sharia here, a few public whippings there...a few more millions from Uncle Sam to keep Old Sammy at bay...disgusting.

Zair Shah and a "real government" are the last hope the Afghans have for a long, long time.
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:46 PM
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7. Karzai (former Unocal exec) is a puppet! He lacks legitimacy and
is little more than mayor of Kabul, in practical terms.
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:00 PM
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8. The Kings of Afghanistan...are no more....


Neal I agree with you in bringing back the King...it would be a miracle at this point...and many Afghan expats tried forever to get the US to do just that since '79 - but of course...we did not listen.

Today the King is very old......I don't believe he has the strength today to attempt it.

At the end of the day, it is now time we, the U.S., openly support the nationalist Afghans and Balochs of Paksitan in breaking free of Islamabad. After such seccession this will immediately quiet and END the Durand line...and give semblance to a unified state or two that can start working on lines the people there were tricked to believe they had recieved in 1947.
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plasticsundance Donating Member (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:05 PM
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9. Northern Alliance was and is busy taking bribes from the Taliban
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:16 PM
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5. When Musharraf falls, those nukes fall into very nasty hands
By what delusion do we pronounce that the Taliban are defeated and everything's fine?
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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:08 PM
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10. The idea Pakistan's nukes are susceptible to falling into ANYONEs hands...


other than high-ranking Punjabi Generals of Pakistan is completely without merit. Wake up...the Army of Pakistan keeps using the TALIBAN BOGEYMAN to mislead the West... The supporters of the Taliban at the end of the day are nothing more than whipped up ethnic Afghans with a grudge. If you want to calm them all down.....SUPPORT THE ANP of the Frontier and Achickzai of Quetta and do the right thing.

Research Frederick Grare at the Carnegie Endowment for the most objective and informed analysis of pakistan.

Pakistan article by Grare: http://www.carnegieendowment.org/publications/index.cfm?fa=view&id=17998&prog=zgp&proj=zsa

Pakistan is going to fall...and it is going to fall by the way of the US either supporting the democratic pro-West nationlists (Baloch, Afghan & Sindhi).....OR the same frustrated masses will say enough of the US hypocrisy and join with the Islamic radicals to pull the country down.

IT IS ENTIRELY>>>>IN THE HANDS OF THE UNITED STATES WHICH WILL OCCUR.

WHAT IS NOT GOING TO OCCUR....is the continuation of the state of Pakistan as we know it.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 02:43 PM
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6. No no no... bush declared "the Taleban are no more" 3 years ago!
"They no longer exist" bush trumpeted!
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