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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:43 PM
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AP: Hastert Denies GOP Leaders Saw E-Mails "As a parent...I am disgusted"
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 02:46 PM by truthpusher
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/02/D8KGLMO80.html

Hastert Denies GOP Leaders Saw E-Mails
Oct 02 2:32 PM US/Eastern

By ANDREW TAYLOR
Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON

House Speaker Dennis Hastert said Monday that no Republican leaders saw lurid Internet exchanges from former Rep. Mark Foley to pages and that he would have demanded the Florida Republican's expulsion if he had known about them.

"As a parent and speaker of the House, I am disgusted," Hastert, R- Ill., told reporters after holding a meeting at the Capitol in the wake of the disclosure of the e-mails in 2003 to a page, which led to Foley's resignation last Friday. The page's home state was not immediately cited.

The speaker did not mention e-mail exchanges between Foley and another page, from Louisiana, in 2005. Other House Republicans said they told Hastert about those exchanges months ago. Hastert has not disputed those accounts.

"Congressman Foley duped a lot of people," Hastert said. "I've know him for all the years he has worked in this House and he deceived me, too."

(snip)

There currently are 72 House pages, 48 selected by Republicans and 24 by Democrats, according to a recent report by the Congressional Research Service. The Senate breakdown is 30 pages, 18 chosen by Republicans and 12 by Democrats.

link: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/02/D8KGLMO80.html
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warrens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:48 PM
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1. "As a parent, I am disgusted..."
"that horndog was trying to bogart the hottest young studs."
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:54 PM
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16. Wonder how the boys rectums fared?
Maybe Foley had that Abu Ghraib thing on his mind
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:55 PM
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2. Didn't "see" them but did he know about them?
I dont' believe Denny clarified that.

And they took no questions, I noticed.
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:21 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. Someone knew enough to warn the incoming pages to
steer clear of Foley five years ago. The emails, which on the surface really are relatively innocuous -- creepy, but not explicit -- are from 2005.

So what was the basis for the warnings as much as five years ago? Behavior? Hmmm, if it was behavior, it damn well should have been investigated. AT THAT POINT there should have been an investigation to find out exactly what Foley was doing, how far his "friendliness" had gone.

IF -- and that's the $64,000 IF -- Hastert or Shimkus or Reynolds or anyone else knew prior to last Friday that Foley was emailing and/or IMing under-age (meaning, under 18 years of age per federal statute, IIRC) pages with sexually explicit material, soliciting meetings for sexual activity, or WHATEVER, and IF it was knowledge of this activity that prompted the warnings, then Hastert and Boehner and Shimkus and Reynolds and all the rest are guilty guilty guilty guilty guilty of covering up AND enabling Foley's continued predation.

So, my question is, on what information did the page supervisors base their warnings to the pages to stay away from Foley? What information did they have, when did they have it, and why the fucking hell didn't they act more judiciously on it?

Well, I know the answer to the last part of that question.. . .. .. .


Tansy Gold
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:31 PM
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10. Pages warn each other in 2001
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Tansy_Gold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #10
14. According to Loraditch . . . . .
. . . .and he's the Page Alumni preident/spokesperson who made the "warning" comments ---

"Firstly, as to the ABC "Warned" story, while I may have inadvertently used the word, "warned," in communication, I can assure you it was not intended. The fact of the matter is in an informal situation a supervisor mentioned that Foley was a bit odd or flaky and did not connote by tone or otherwise that he should be avoided."

(that's cut-and-pasted from another LBN thread)

However, even if the actual "warning," by whatever name it's called, came from within the page ranks, Loraditch is still saying that some supervisor singled out Foley as "odd or flaky." Why Foley? On what basis? Did someone know, as early as 2001, that something unacceptable was going on with Foley? Something bizarre enough, out-of-line enough to make the "odd or flaky" comment?

It takes two points to draw a line, and it seems to me that if someone four or five years ago knew enough to make any kind of comment specifically about Foley, and then Alexander contacts Reynolds, who contacts Hastert -- that's two points and someone ought to have connected the dots.

There were sex-and-drugs scandals several years ago, and the page system was overhauld then. Given that history, why wouldn't someone's warning bells have gone off with the "odd or flaky" description of Foley?

I know, I know, I know. The page program is one small part of the whole congressional apparatus. And yes, no system is perfect. But it still seems to me, radical idealist that I am, that there were a lot of opportunities for dot-connecting that could have prevented this. And the pukes, as usual (think 9/11), were asleep at the switch.

But hey, no one has resigned over the failure to stop 19 terrorists, so why should we expect anyone to quit over failing to stop one sexual predator?

Tansy Gold
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:57 PM
Response to Reply #2
23. DING DING DING! MaineDem, you're our grand prize winner!
Didn't "see" them but did he know about them?

And even if the didn't know, he should have, so there, too!

:headbang:
rocknation
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:57 PM
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3. willingly deceived for political expediency--Hastert WAS warned
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 02:57 PM
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4. They saw the e-mails; they didn't see the IMs
ABC had the e-mails Friday morning, and the IMs by Friday afternoon, which is when Foley got out while the getting was good. Mr. Hastert and his cohort had the e-mails for years, but failed to do anything about the IMs, showing all the pluck and initiative of a pro wrestling referee when someone's using a foreign object. Now Mr. Hastert wants to flail across the ring and ring the bell and pronounce the match over.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:22 PM
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8. Is there proof that Hastert had the emails for years?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:39 PM
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12. According to this story
Hastert had some of the emails for several months, according to other unnamed Republican congressmen. It's unclear from this story whether those were the 2005 emails or the 2003 emails. However, Talking Points Memo has been on this story since Friday, and has been pretty meticulous about documenting the comments and the countercomments as they come out. From their compilation, it seems that the more innocuous emails (where Foley seems to be inquiring about one former page's status in the aftermath of Katrina) have been in the hands of the GOP leadership for quite some time, as has the knowledge that Mr. Foley might have some predilections that could be detrimental to the well-being of the young men in his charge.

To me, it sounds like the wife who overhears her husband talk about a birthmark on his secretary's upper thigh. It may be completely innocent, but a wise woman will wonder how her husband came to see his secretary's upper thigh in the first place?
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #12
18. Actually ABC claims they've been aware since 2001- WOW! See link
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 05:05 PM by demo dutch
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:16 PM
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5. So, what he's saying is
that he's not guilty of a coverup, he's guilty of criminal negligence by not following up with an investigation.

Imagine if Foley had molested a page? (and I'm not saying he didn't) If Hastert had done his job when he first found out, he would have prevented the POSSIBILITY of someone being hurt.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:19 PM
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6. when told of the content, he said "i don't want to see these emails. i
need plausible denial."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:26 PM
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9. The purpose of the press conf. was to protect the Leadership--he did not
take any questions from reporters!


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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:12 PM
Response to Reply #9
20. Just another "Foley Artist." With apologies to professional foley artists
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:37 PM
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11. speaking of digusting
why don't you go take a look in the mirror, you republicon you

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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #11
41. slime ball
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:44 PM
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13. Support pedophilia: vote Republican in 2006! (n/t)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:55 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. As another DUer said: GOP=Gang of Pedophiles
Let's get the message to the "moral" fence-sitters.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 03:54 PM
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15. Well that gives you an oversight problem, Denny dear.
Because the second you knew about Foley you should have had every page in your office, one by one. There is no excuse for not investigating how far this had gone AND FORCING FOLEY TO RESIGN. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

Question, do applicants for house page have to submit a photo?

Oh, and how much child pornography was Foley legally able to review because of his committee assignment?
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:07 PM
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19. "Congressman Foley duped a lot of people..."
edit, to add: "And it's my job to pick up where he left off."
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:14 PM
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21. Look at the Year Hastert said 2003
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 05:55 PM
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22. Throwing Foley under the bus, is this true they never saw email!?
I don't believe it one bit.
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 06:03 PM
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24. But they SHOULD have seen them.
The only reason they ( the leadership) didn't was because they didn't do any investigation beyond asking the alleged perp what he did.

When you are in a position of leadership you are expected to make critical decisions all the time. That is what being a leader means. They failed yet again, and this time, they endangered some kids under their care. They no longer deserve the trust of the people for the positions they hold.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
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25. Hastert says he didn't know of explicit contact


http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-10-02-foley_x.htm?csp=1

Updated 10/3/2006 12:59 AM ET (photo)
"Would have, could have, should have," Dennis Hastert said. "We did what we thought ... was prudent at the time." Rep. John Shimkus, R-Ill., right, helped investigate a congressman's e-mail to teenager.
By H. Darr Beiser, USA TODAY


Hastert says he didn't know of explicit contact


By Kathy Kiely, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON — House Speaker Dennis Hastert defended himself and other Republican leaders Monday against charges they did not move aggressively to investigate Rep. Mark Foley's contacts with teenage boys.

Hastert reiterated that House leaders had no knowledge of sexually explicit instant messages the Florida Republican allegedly sent to several congressional pages until ABC News reported about them Friday.

Foley resigned after ABC questioned him about them.

Speaking to reporters for the first time since the scandal broke, Hastert said House officials had no reason to press further when Foley explained a chatty e-mail to a 16-year-old boy in which the representative requested the former House page's photograph. That e-mail caused the boy's parents to complain, but it contained nothing sexually explicit.

"Would have, could have, should have," Hastert said. "We did what we thought ... was prudent at the time.".........
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #25
26. thats what we used to call LYING.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #26
34. now it is Compassionate Fibbing.. spinning shit into gold
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #25
27. "Didn't know" my ass.
Why is it that when anyone in this admin. is called on something.........the universal reply is "didn't know?" Give me a break.....
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
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28. They need investigations and a hearing
under oath, Denny, say it under oath. THis trying it in the media is BS.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #25
29. Lame, dishonest excuse for failure to take appropriate action
(Hastert's private thoughts)

Hastert "Foley, explain the picture request(Tell me only what I want to hear)"

Foley "Oh, just wanted his picture for work related purposes to highlight the Page program"

Hastert "I knew it had to be something like that"(and even if I know better. I've asked. Got an acceptable answer - and I don't need to know more)

Foley "Is that all?"

Hastert "Yep. That's it.(If you told anymore, I'd be guilty of knowing and doing nothing about it) Just don't ask for anymore pictures"

Foley "OK"



Naturally I have no way knowing what went down - but this is an example of how liars protect and cover-up so that later when asked, they can claim "I didn't know"
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
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30. Of course he didn't
That's because he ignored the warnings and didn't do an investigation. His crime is one of politically opportunistic indifference.
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #25
31. If he didn't know, he should have.
He's incompetent.

If he did know, he's a liar.

Either way, time for him to go.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #25
32. you lying sac of shit Hastrert..you knew this stuff for 5 years!
you lying sack of filthy trash ..Hastert

you sick fuck liar!

you had an obligation to demand to see the emails and IM's..or to turn it over yourself to the FBI for a full investigation...

these were children in your charge..

you had a 100% obligation for their safety and welfare Hastert

but that never occured to a republican did it..with all the filthy prevs in the republican party..that likeed to protect Bush papa who was a prev and how many have died who had info on you fuckers..

after all it was the republican pervs who did the MKULtra program..and have used children for years and years in their sick pedophilia rings... and running drugs for the rethugs...

yes we know all about you sick fucks..and why you covered this up...

and we know all about the blackmail you do each and every day to take over our democracy with your new world order...

well you are caught now..and we the people are taking our country back..now..

you will no longer use our children for your sick agenda's you sick mother fuckers!


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picture of the washington times newspaper June 29,1989

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2003/02/1570946.php

1989 story about Bush Sr. Whitehouse call Boy sex ring
by xx Thursday, Feb. 06, 2003 at 11:54 PM


This is a news story releated to the franklin coverup. One Call Boy that visited whitehouse was 15 years old.




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watch this video and send it out to everyone you know!!( slow loading)

http://www.thelawparty.org/UnlockedMedia/MediaPlayer/Fr...

http://www.thelawparty.org/UnlockedMedia/MediaPlayer/Fr...

http://www.thelawparty.org/UnlockedMedia/MediaPlayer/Fr...

http://www.thelawparty.org/UnlockedMedia/MediaPlayer/Fr...

"Conspiracy of Silence", a documentary listed for viewing in TV Guide Magazine was to be aired on the Discovery Channel, on May 3, 1994. This documentary exposed a network of religious leaders and Washington politicians who flew children to Washington D.C. for sex orgies.

2. These areas which the documentary focused on, were:


(a) the use and involvement of Boys Town children and personalities in the Franklin Scandal, particularly Peter Citron and Larry King’s relationships to Boys Town;

(b) the linkage of Franklin to some of this country’s top politicians in Washington, and in the US Congress, with particular attention on those who attended parties held by Larry King at his Washington mansion on Embassy Row;

(c) the impropriety of these politicians and businessmen and compromising of these people by Larry King, through drugs and using children for pedophilia.

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http://sanderhicks.com/franklin.html

The Bush/Reagan White House Male Prostitution Scandal:
Banned 1994 Video Surfaces on Web

John W. DeCamp is a respected Nebraska attorney, a Nam vet, a former Republican delegate, and a man of integrity who exposed corruption in his own GOP, with the Franklin S&L Scandal. He is author of the Franklin Cover-Up, which inspired the video that was made for (and then killed by) the Discovery Channel.

This story, originally broken by the Washington Times, was violently squelched in Omaha and Washington by heavy pressure direct from the FBI and other sources. They were covering for the heavies in the Bush White House with lethal methods very similar to those I've observed in my other investigations. A major investigator died in a mysterious small aircraft crash, and other investigators then folded their hand. Witnesses gathered up their courage only to lose it again.



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http://www.tarpley.net/bush21.htm

George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography --- by Webster G. Tarpley & Anton Chaitkin
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Chapter -XXI- Omaha

On the morning of June 29, 1989, pandemonium erupted in the corridors of power in the nation's capital. ``Homosexual Prostitution Probe Ensnares Official of Bush, Reagan,'' screamed the front-page headline of the Washington Times with the kicker ``Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.''

The Times reported, ``A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close ties to Washington's political elite.''

The exposeé centered on the role of one Craig Spence, a Republican powerbroker known for his lavish ``power cocktail'' parties. Spence was well connected. He celebrated Independence Day 1988 by conducting a midnight tour of the White House in the company of two teenage male prostitutes among others in his party.

Rumors circulated that a list existed of some 200 Washington prominents who had used the call boy service. The Number Two in charge of personnel affairs at the White House, who was responsible for filling all the top civil service posts in the federal bureaucracy, and Secretary of Labor Elizabeth Dole's chief of staff, were two individuals publicly identified as patrons of the call boy ring.



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http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2003/08/17/16356311.php

George Bush, Pedophiles & The CIA
by gdy
Sunday Aug 17th, 2003 10:41 PM
There have been other reports suggestive of a connection between child abuse and top officials. On June 29, 1989, the Washington Times, shook the Bush White House to its very roots with the front page headline "Call Boys Took Midnight Tour of White House.'' The paper reported, ``A homosexual prostitution ring is under investigation by federal and District authorities and includes among its clients key officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, military officers, congressional aides and U.S. and foreign businessmen with close ties to Washington's political elite.''
George Bush, The CIA, Mind Control & Child Abuse

snip:

May 5, 2003

From the Streets of Little Beirut

Glen Yeadon


On January 28, 2003, amid the furor of the impending war with Iraq the British press briefly reported on Operation Ore, the most thorough and comprehensive police investigation of crimes against children before being squashed by the Blair government. Besides implicating Rock guitarist Peter Townsend of the Who, the report claimed that senior members of Tony Blair's government were being investigated for pedophilia and the "enjoyment" of child-sex pornography. With the investigation reaching to senior members of his Government, Blair declared a news blackout on the story.

Moreover, the British report was not the first such case reported. In fact, it followed on the heels of a report from Portugal. On November 27, 2002, the press reported a scandal of pedophile ring run from a state orphanage. The Guardian reported that the scandal threatened to engulf diplomats, media personalities and senior politicians. Photographs of senior government officials with young boys from Lisbon's Casa Pia orphanage were among the evidence. More shocking however, were the revelations that systematic sexual abuse of children at the home had allegedly been going on for more than 20 years and had been known to police and other authorities for most of that time.

On January 14, 2002, Insight Magazine reported the charges leveled by Ben Johnson against his employer Dyncorp, a major defense contractor. Johnson charged that officials and employees of Dyncorp were engaging in perverse, illegal and inhumane behavior and were purchasing illegal weapons, women, forged passports and participating in other immoral acts. Johnson had witnessed his supervisors and fellow employees buying 12- to 15-year-olds as sex slaves.

snip:

More disgusting is the role the United States government plays in facilitating this global sex trade. Instead of banning the previously mentioned Dyncorp from further defense contracts, the regime of George W Bush rewards it in granting major contracts for the Iraqi war. Even more shameful is the wink and nod the state department grants the Saudis. The Arabian Peninsula has long been known to be purchasers of slaves. Mostly the slaves came from India or Africa however, with the advent of the oil wealth the Saudis have became more selective and are known as high-end buyers. The Saudi Arabian Government continues to refuse to sign the United Nation’s treaty on slavery and extradition treaties. There have been several incidents in the past where the media has reported a slave of a Saudi prince brought into the United States escaped. The State Department then intervenes and returns the escaped slave to the Saudi prince and the incident forgotten. The State Department exempts the Saudi princes from normal custom procedures. A child slave bought by a Saudi prince can be delivered to his plane and allowed to depart without the required passport for the child. One fortunate victim that became entangled in the Saudi sex ring was the former Miss USA Shannon Marketic. She had been lured to Saudi Arabia by what she believed was legitimate modeling work. Being a high profile case she was returned to the United States and filed suit. The former Miss USA lost her lawsuit as the State department granted immunity to her abductors.



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http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_child_sex_coverup/article_archive.htm

snip:

SEX AND THE CAPITAL

KARLYN BARKER, WASHINGTON POST, JULY 24, 1990: The alleged leader of what authorities have called the largest male prostitution operation in the Washington area surrendered to federal agents yesterday and pleaded not guilty to racketeering charges that have been filed against him and three alleged accomplices. Henry W. Vinson, 29, of Williamson, W.Va., a coal miner's son accused of setting up the homosexual escort service, was arraigned in U.S. District Court here yesterday afternoon after turning himself in to Secret Service agents . . . At a news conference after the arraignment, Stephens said the investigation into the alleged prostitution ring "is concluded" and that the indictment, which was unsealed yesterday, focused on those who allegedly set up the ring rather than on clients who reportedly patronized it. Asked about earlier reports that some of those clients included high-level officials in the Reagan and Bush administrations, Stephens said the investigation had not revealed "additional conduct which suggests criminal conduct on behalf of other people." . . . The Vinson case provoked additional notice after The Washington Times published reports last summer suggesting that the alleged prostitution ring had been patronized by government officials. The Times named as clients several low-level government employees and Craig J. Spence, a Washington lobbyist and party-giver who, the paper said, took friends and prostitutes on late-night tours of the White House. Spence was found dead in a Boston hotel room last fall, and authorities ruled his death a suicide . . . To date, however, investigators have disclosed no evidence linking any high-level government official to the escort service.


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SCANDAL IN NEBRASKA

As the call boy ring affair dominated the cocktail gossip circuit in
Washington, another scandal, halfway across the country in the state
of Nebraska, peaked. Again this scandal knocked on the President's
door.

http://www.beyondweird.com/ufos/Bruce_Walton_The_Underground_Nazi_Invasion_15.html




this is just a primer Hastert...

we the people now have you by the short hairs...

now get the hell out of our government...go home and fade into the woodwork ..or we will take you down ourselves!

fly
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BeachBuckeye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #25
33.  No " knowledge"? This is the operative word
The article says "Hastert reiterated that House leaders had no knowledge of sexually explicit instant messages"

That is NOT what he said. Hastert said "up until Friday none of the Republican leadership had SEEN any of the e-mails." His staff had told him about them but he didn't actually see them.

"SEEN" is the operative word here I believe. He said they had not SEEN them. Maybe so, but that doesn't mean they had no knowledge of them. He would be able to be questioned under oath and say he had not SEEN the instant messages and be telling the truth. But, if asked if he had any KNOWLEDGE of them and he answered no, then he is screwed. They are parsing the hell out of this.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #33
37. why didn't he see them if he didn't?
He is the Speaker of the House responsible for the running of the House of Representatives. It is his job to know what is happening! If he doesn't know what is happening then he should step down.

He should had demanded to see the evidence to determine if anything should had been done. He is suppose to make that decision not some lackey in his office.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
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35. So they've gone from they didn't know about the dirty emails & IM's
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 08:15 AM by DoYouEverWonder
to we didn't think he actually touched a minor.

Does that mean, they were all at least 18 years old?
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:46 AM
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36. Wow. No one in the republican party knows anything about anything
and doesn't remember or recall anything about anything. Now that's some leadership! It sounds like everyone in the republican party needs a cat scan.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:23 AM
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38. Apparently, he's not that disgusted...
He's know about this for quite sometime.

As a human being I'm completely appalled and want to puke.

They are pigs. No not pigs, that's too kind. They are the crap that pigs wallow in.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:17 AM
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39. Good point
I'm sure they tried to cover it up in an important election year.

I'm sure Freepers are outraged - not!
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 11:24 AM
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40. Willful ignorance-not looking at emails-see nothing do nothing leader
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 09:47 PM
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42. I Just heard that the Page was 18 years old when these IM's took place
Now granted Foley still should have resigned because he was doing this IM during working hours but if the Page was 18 I don't believe it was a crime
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 09:48 PM
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43. and as a wrestling coach, I'm excited
I wouldn't trust this stooge to the door under an armed guard.
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