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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:13 PM
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Records Show Tenet Briefed Rice on Al Qaeda Threat (State Dept admits it!)
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 07:23 PM by Zenlitened
October 2, 2006 (8 pm ET)

Records Show Tenet Briefed Rice on Al Qaeda Threat

By PHILIP SHENON and MARK MAZZETTI

JIDDA, Saudi Arabia, Oct. 2 — A review of White House records has determined that George J. Tenet, then the director of central intelligence, did brief Condoleezza Rice and other top officials on July 10, 2001, about the looming threat from Al Qaeda, a State Department spokesman (Sean McCormack) said Monday.

...

Mr. McCormack also said records show that the Sept. 11 commission was informed about the meeting, a fact that former intelligence officials and members of the commission confirmed on Monday.

When details of the meeting emerged last week in a new book by Bob Woodward of The Washington Post, Bush administration officials questioned Mr. Woodward’s reporting.

Now, after several days, both current and former Bush administration officials have confirmed parts of Mr. Woodward’s account.

Officials now agree that on July 10, 2001, Mr. Tenet and his counterterrorism deputy, J. Cofer Black, were so alarmed about an impending Al Qaeda attack that they demanded an emergency meeting at the White House with Ms. Rice and her National Security Council staff.

According to two former intelligence officials, Mr. Tenet told those assembled at the White House about the growing body of intelligence the Central Intelligence Agency had collected pointing to an impending Al Qaeda attack. But both current and former officials took issue with Mr. Woodward’s account that Mr. Tenet and his aides left the meeting in frustration, feeling as if Ms. Rice had ignored them.

Much more at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/02/washington/03ricecnd.html?hp&ex=1159848000&en=5de194832d554019&ei=5094&partner=homepage
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:17 PM
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1. That picture, says

"Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse"
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:31 PM
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9. It's Arrogance,Clueless,Greedy, and Nuts !
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:17 PM
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2. she ignored them so hard that she removed the meeting from her memory.
i wonder what rice will say next? what's the next lie, condi?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:18 PM
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3. It Doesn't Count
Kindasleezy never said that it didn't happen - only that she doesn't remember it happening.

She's in the clear.

Ha ha, catch her if you can!!!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:19 PM
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4. Which current and former officials took issue with Woodward's account?
bush loyalists, I'll wager.

They lie.
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:19 PM
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5. CONdi's head being prepared for the chopping block
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:20 PM
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6. nah
after Powell coming out and saying he was fired

Condi's pretty safe

the Bushies won't fire one of their own
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:28 PM
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7. So what were they thinking about prior to 9/11/01.
If terror wasn't a big deal prior to 9/11....why not? I think we know why....Cheney was focused on his hostile takeover of Iraq National Petroleum.

Just where are those minutes of the top secret Energy Tak Force?

At the very least it was gross incompetence and deriliction of duty.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:28 PM
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8. The Yahoo headline says
Edited on Mon Oct-02-06 07:29 PM by TOJ
"Rice: I don't recall alert about attack". Fire her, or put her on trial for dereliction?
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 07:36 PM
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10. Not just her. ALL of them are implicated in one way or another.
Throw the whole gang of them down a hole.

Seriously, they should all be on trial for the most grotesque dereliction, the most tragic incompetence in American government history.



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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:06 PM
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11. Bush, it's his way or the highway, those he hires swear to loyalty
Rice, Gonzalez the whole mess, this will probably end up on the streets, too much corruption,lies, deceit...
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:11 PM
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12. yep ...she needs to be frog-marched off to the pen with her boss
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:54 PM
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14. I prefer to see her swing from a noose.
I don't generally support the death penalty, but her crimes are so totally egregious, anything less will leave me unsatisfied.
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:52 PM
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13. Maybe her mind was on her shoes again
This whole administration should be impeached.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 09:58 PM
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15. So Sleazy is allowed to lie for the umpteenth time?
Although she did say 'there never was such a meeting but she remembers what it wasn't about'
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:30 PM
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16. Nothing in the 9/11 Commission report about this meeting.
For those following along at home, page 259 covers the period.

Final paragraph is interesting:

"...By late July, Tenet said, 'it could not get any worse'. Not everyone was convinced. Some asked whether all these threats might just be deception. On June 30th, the SEIB contained an article titled Bin Laden threats are Real. Yet Hadley told Tenet...Paul Wolfowitz questioned the reporting. To give a sense of his anxiety at the time, one senior official in the Counterterrorist Center told us that he and a colleague were considering resigning in order to go public with their concerns."




If members of the commission are confirming that they were told of this meeting with Rice, why isn't it in the report? What else were they told that they left out of the report?
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kitty1 Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 10:39 PM
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17. Rice woudn't want to risk offending the Rich Saudi investors...
who were behind the attacks, by having investigators dig up some shameful terrorist financing facts about them.
Men like Yasin Al-Qadi for instance, who was a major owner/investor in Ptech, the software company used by the FAA, Secret Service, FBI and other WH agencies. He was also a huge source of funding for Al Quaida thru his so called charity networks.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-02-06 11:26 PM
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18. State Department Confirms Rice Met With Tenet on Terror Threat
By Judy Mathewson
Oct. 2 (Bloomberg) -- ... State Department spokesman Sean McCormack disputed the characterization of the meeting in the book ``State of Denial'' by journalist Bob Woodward, saying the information Rice got ``was not new'' and didn't amount to an urgent warning.

``Rather, it was a good summary from the threat-reporting from the previous several weeks,'' McCormack said in a statement from Saudi Arabia where Rice is traveling.

Rice, who was President George W. Bush's national security adviser at the time, asked that the information be forwarded to Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and then-Attorney General John Ashcroft, according to McCormack ...

At Rice's request, the State Department's legal adviser, John Bellinger, researched the 2001 meeting today at the National Security Council archive while Rice aide Philip Zelikow researched the National Archives, McCormack's statement said ...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aG2D.J.6m9rM&refer=home


So .. uh .. "wasn't new" cuz it was a few weeks old .. and it was so unimportant she had it forwarded to Ashy and Rummy ...

Sounds like Zelikov's purging the archives.



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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:10 PM
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25. Talking Points - repeated by Snowjob - the meeting was mischaracterized
See this exchange:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/10/20061002-11.html

Q Tony, going back to the myth that you're disputing, myth number three, back to that question -- how can you dispute it, when in August 2001 there's a document that was declassified by this administration, "bin Laden determined to strike in the U.S. and" --

MR. SNOW: Oh, you're talking about the PDB.

Q Yes, I am.

MR. SNOW: You're talking about the PDB that was discussed ad nauseam before the 9/11 Commission and had a general characterization as some of the things bin Laden may do. It is something that the administration obviously pays attention to.

Let me make a simple point, April, which is that administrations -- and I've said this about the prior administration -- if somebody presents you with a compelling piece of evidence that says American lives are going to be at risk, you don't sit around and say, oh, it's inconvenient, I'm going to ignore it.

Condi Rice, I think, was pretty vociferous on that point yesterday. And it's grossly irresponsible to assume that anybody in a position of power and a position of responsibility is going to look askance at such things. As you know, you can go back and look at the PDB, and it is something that talked in general terms about something that may happen.

Q Tony, I'm sorry, this is not general. It says, "Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York." Is that --

MR. SNOW: Understood.

Q -- just vague?

MR. SNOW: No. But it also does not say that people -- if you recall, April, before September 11, 2001, when somebody mentioned hijackings it meant taking a plane, taking it to another place and trying to hold up people for ransom. It did not mean flying an airliner into a building and killing 3,000 people.

I am not going to sit up here and tell you everything this administration or prior administrations may or may not have done. But the second-guessing game gets a little bit silly when, once again -- and what I'd have you do is go back and read through all the 9/11 Commission stuff, because a lot of people are trying to grandstand, rather than realize that people --

Q But, Tony, it's not silly when you're talking about people's lives, thousands of lives were lost --

MR. SNOW: Absolutely.

Q -- and it was a month before, there was a lot of chatter leading up to 9/11. And some people want to know why was it not placed as a high priority to move -- to make a movement so that even if it was vague, as far as hijackings, you could have at least been looking at the airports in some kind of way, or the Transportation Administration could have been doing something in relation to this possible hijacking.

MR. SNOW: I appreciate the second-guessing. The fact is that this administration realizes that the preparations this country had made before September 11th were inadequate. It happened. And it happened as a result of people who were trying their best to secure the country having not been apprised of all the facts -- in the Clinton years, and in the Bush years, and in years before. This is not a threat that simply materialized a month before September 11th.

As a matter of fact, the videotape that came out the other day had bin Laden and his guys -- Mohammed Atta and others -- posing for the cameras in the year 2000, before the election of George W. Bush. And the 9/11 Commission, itself, says that the attacks were years in planning.

Please, feel free to second guess. Everybody feels horrible about September 11th, but the other thing that's important is to understand in the wake of September 11th we learned to take the terror threat with utmost seriousness and we need to continue to do so today.

Q But, Tony -- and this is my last question -- I understand you keep talking about the Clinton administration, but let's talk about August 6, 2001, this administration, this PDB. Let's talk about why it was not placed at a high level. Why not?

MR. SNOW: It's a presidential decision brief, for heaven's sake, it goes before the President. What higher level do you have? Members of Congress --

Q Well, why wasn't it acted upon?

MR. SNOW: Precisely what piece of actionable intelligence is there?

Q Department of Transportation, you could have gone the gambit, CIA, FBI, you've could have done a little bit more.

MR. SNOW: Okay. Again, thank you for the second-guessing.

Q I just want to follow up. My question -- mine's not second-guessing of September 11th, it's about the 9/11 Commission. Now you have commissioners outraged, they say that they didn't know about this meeting. You're saying that the meeting did take place --

MR. SNOW: The meeting did take place.

Q -- but it's out of context in the book?

MR. SNOW: Yes. And I will --

Q And is there a reason why, I guess, the 9/11 Commission didn't know about the meeting? That's the bottom-line question.

MR. SNOW: The answer is, I don't know. And people are taking a look at all the documents to find out what was reported and what was not to the 9/11 Commission. As a matter of fact, there's a trip to the Archives right now to try to sort through all that.

Q If there were other meetings, will you let us know about those, if they didn't get to the 9/11 Commission as well?

MR. SNOW: "Other meetings" regarding what? The fact is that this is a meeting, as I've just told you, was mischaracterized, at least in the opinion of people who attended it. Therefore, they are not likely to be able to come up with other mischaracterized meetings. This is an administration that went to extraordinary lengths and went through two different commission hearings -- actually three different commissions that have been involved in the matter of global terror, and will continue to do so.

And we would also encourage people to look forward, as well as back, because right now there seems to be a lot of attention to going back and looking at old meetings that began after January 20, 2001, and to realize, as the President has been stressing, is that there is an ongoing terrorist threat, and we need to take it seriously. It is not something that has gone away, and the President remains committed to it.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:07 AM
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19. Barbara Boxer can break Condi down like a double barrel shot
gun, and then put her in a corner and make a pet out of her.
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:17 AM
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20. Kick!
:kick:
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:21 AM
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21. "No one could have imagined that records would show that I lied." n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:05 PM
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22. State Dept. confirms Rice-Tenet meeting

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061003/ap_on_re_mi_ea/rice_woodward_book;_ylt=AgJDoelY8U9WFyIK4UIX0ihvaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA0cDJlYmhvBHNlYwM-

State Dept. confirms Rice-Tenet meeting

By ANNE GEARAN, Associated Press Writer 59 minutes ago

JIDDAH, Saudi Arabia - Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice did receive a CIA briefing about terror threats just about two months before the Sept. 11 attacks, but the information was not new, her chief spokesman said.


In doing so, Sean McCormack confirmed a meeting — on July 10, 2001 — that his boss had said repeatedly she could not specifically recall. She had said earlier that there were virtually daily meetings at the time.

A new book by reporter Bob Woodward of Watergate fame describes the White House meeting as an emergency wakeup call that Rice had brushed off. Rice was President Bush's national security adviser at the time and was promoted to the top diplomatic job last year.

Although spokesmen for the State Department and the National Security Council indicated Sunday that such a meeting had taken place, Rice was still saying Monday that she was not sure about it. She said she would have remembered the sort of forceful warning the book claims was conveyed there.

"We can confirm that a meeting took place on or around July 10, 2001," McCormack said late Monday.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:05 PM
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23. She didn't say they didn't meet. she said she doesn't recall the warning
Just like the PDB...Bin Laden Determined to Strike in the US was historical not a warning.

You gotta love her attempt to wiggle on this. It won't fly. She looks like a snake.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:23 PM
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26. actually my daughter's snake
is much better looking than kindasleazy.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 12:05 PM
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24. Bush Administration KNEW and Did Nothing...
case closed. Guilty!
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It was not a pretzel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 04:58 PM
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27. LIHOP
at least.
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