Ex-page threatened over role in Foley flap

[Lone_Star_Dem]

A former male House page from Louisiana has received threats since reports surfaced Friday that former Rep. Mark Foley sent him inappropriate e-mails, another congressman said Monday night.

“This teenager and his family have gone through hell,” GOP Rep. Rodney Alexander of Louisiana said. Alexander wouldn’t say what type of threats the teenager was receiving, or the source of the threats.

Alexander sponsored the then-16-year-old’s service as a House page but said the teenager worked for the House clerk. The boy, who is from Monroe, La., is now 17.

“It’s just not fair that they got caught up in this and became casualties,” Alexander said. “His mother is just broken up by it. Naturally, she’s concerned about her child.”

http://www.news-press.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artikkel?Dato=20061003&Kategori=NEWS01&Lopenr=61003003&Ref=AR

They've now stooped to threatening kids. I wonder how they plan on topping this one?

[NVMojo]

1. the GOP is diseased

[saigon68]

20. No the Placenta lived and became PRESIDENT

[habitual]

2. now THAT is a great display of GOP Family Values n/t

[libhill]

19. Republicans have no values other than $$$$$ -

That's all they care about, it's the sole reason for their existence...

[Lone_Star_Dem]

28. I disagree

I also think they enjoy the high of the power they wield over us. But other than that, yes, it's the money.

[libhill]

30. Power and money

come hand in hand, though. It takes one to get the other, and vice versa... everything else that spews forth from the mouths of Repukes is rhetoric to keep the sheeple in line and pacified.

[VegasWolf]

3. One continuously remains surprised at how low the Reptilians can sink. nt

[AngryOldDem]

4. Shows you where their loyalties REALLY lie

And it ain't with families and their values.

[Sequoia]

5. Sad for the family. Now Mom....get out your guns

and sue, sue, sue. Tell the world how you are being threatened, how your CHILD was being STALKED by a sex FIEND.

[Warpy]

6. Freepers ASSume that because a kid was the target

of a gay sexual predator, why, he just must be gay, himself!

Who the hell told these people the kid's name?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

7. I'm trying to find out how they got his name now

So far I've got nothing. :shrug:

[Journeyman]

13. Wouldn't be that hard. . .

They know he's from Lousiana, that he served last year. If they knew another Page who served at that time -- or anyone else on the Hill who had close contact with the Pages -- they could learn the names of any Pages from Louisiana. Wouldn't be too hard from that start to deduce which Page was involved (I'm working from the assumption there may be more than one Page from a State at any time).

This of course ignores the possibility the Republican leadership simply informed their "goons" who the aggrieved party is.

On edit: I just learned there are only 72 Pages at any time, so the possibility is strong there was only one Page from Louisiana last year. And on reflection, I imagine there are press releases made at the time a Page is appointed, so the young man's name would be part of the public record.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

29. Yes, the one page from LA is the most like way

That's what I finally came to and decided also.

[nolabels]

24. Or KKKarl probably just gave it out to one the right wing media plants

Don't forget the so called government pays reporters for stories favorable to it's positions. Changing positions a little to get the brown shirts after one of Foley's victims wouldn't be out of character :shrug:

[stepnw1f]

35. Freepers=Stupid and Sick in the Head

real twisted logic.

[NashVegas]

37. Often, They Are Gay

A gay teen, in a society that despises gays, is going to have emotional problems that a sexual predator is going to pick up on in a heart beat.

[Az_lefty]

8. the "Gang Of Pedophiles" are now threatening kids?

these winger's are nothing but f@cking fascists, they have to go in November.

[NorthernSpy]

9. unbelievable...

Someone is actually sending this kid threats?

Have the police been notified of this? The article doesn't say.

Me, I wasn't expecting this development. Was anyone?



No matter how cynical you are, you're not cynical enough...

[libhill]

17. Sounds like terrorism to me - send 'em to Gitmo

N/T

[libhill]

26. You simply cannot put ANYTHING

beyond these despicable bastards... there is nothing that Repukes aren't capable of...

[TankLV]

40. Oh, I was - LONG ago.

Like I've said here in the past - if bunkerboy fucked a little boy on stage, the repukes would make excuses for it and defend the REPUKE CRIMINAL.

Unfortunately, recent events have proved me utterly correct on this...

sigh...

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[Copperred]

12. o my..................

[lpbk2713]

14. Naturally, we're dealing with freeper types here.

Par for the course. But they're gonna catch hell if their mommy finds out they're using her computer to send threats over the internets. :eyes:

[NorthernSpy]

22. I'm not so sure it was the freeper-types...

Just as there are divisions and factions among Democrats and the left, there are also divisions and factions among Republicans and the right.

My impression of the freepers is that most of them are probably ideologically closer to the religious right than they are to the neocons. Religious rightists would be more likely perceive Foley's actions -- and the refusal of GOP Congressional leadership to deal promptly with those abuses -- with unmixed outrage. They would view such leaders as a morally-soft and corrupting influence in their movement, and they would view the whole debacle as evidence of the need to purge this corrupting influence from their party.

The neocons, however, are a different story. They are a very, very Machiavellian bunch. If you trace their history, they have joined (and often succeeded in usurping) political movements throughout the ideological spectrum -- whatever has suited their purpose at the time. For the neocons, seizing power and holding it is not merely a means to an end (eg, promoting moral values or defending tradition, or whatever traditional rightists might view as their most cherished goals); rather, getting power and holding it is the end itself.

At the moment, the neocons have cast their lot in with the Republican Party. Anything that might even temporarily diminish the GOP's power and position is intolerable.

If these threats are for real, and if I had to guess what faction might be behind them, then I'd be inclined to finger the neocons.


Of course, I could be wrong about this. It's just my perception.

[UpInArms]

38. history of freeper attack -

Message to Bush: Call off your surrogate "enforcers" before someone gets hurt

Tuesday, June 5, 2001 -- WASHINGTON (APJP) -- While the Bush family jokingly rolls its eyes about Jenna's and Barbara's underage drinking and refuses to comment publicly, Bush supporters are bringing a bitter jihad of retaliation against Chuy's, the Austin restaurant at which the young lushes violated the law -- an the bar manager who did the right thing and phoned police.

The attacks against Mia Lawrence, the bar manager, are being orchestrated on the Internet. Her address, date of birth, drivers license and registration information, physical description, and even birth information about her infant child have been posted on freerepublic.com, along with calls for punitive actions. Freerepublic.com website's sysop pulled some of the information as it was called to his attention -- to his credit -- but the info has circulated and been posted to other Internet forums to spread the "Get Lawrence" frenzy.

Bush supporters have obliquely and directly called for Lawrence to be punished -- publicly humiliated, fired from her job, impoverished, and exposed to risky and dangerous situations.

A freerepublic.com member who uses the screen name "tracer" recommended using her private info for identity theft:

"Giving out her driver's license no. and her DOB opens her up to mucho identity theft. It also makes background checks by 'inquiring minds' a breeze . But at least that's better than the way a Democrat apparatchik in Chicago would have handled this if the roles/parties were reversed. The result rhymes with 'room.'"

"Eva" wrote:

"I think that you should visit the restaurant with a camera and a cell phone. Take pictures of the staff serving the underage college students and send them to the newspapers. Also take pictures of Mia What's her name and post it on the internet , along with her license number. Make this chick so paranoid that if she thinks if she so much as goes through a red light, someone will call 911. Let her know that her picture is being posted."

Others suggest pouring bar drinks on her and making a permanent web site with her personal info. On the web site lucianne.com is posted a link to a 2001 personal bankruptcy claim filed by Lawrence, with all its unhappy detail about her finances, including many thousands of dollars in medical expenses.

...more...

[libhill]

15. Maybe I should threaten Repuke a-holes

who talk crap about the Clintons... yeah, that's the ticket. What's good for the goose is good for the gander..

[KingFlorez]

16. You can bet the threats come from Freepers

They blame the page for what Foley did. To them, Foley was set up.

[libhill]

25. Yeah, uh huh

some one held a gun to his head, and forced him to send those emails. And then some horrible Liberal backed the Republican Congress against a wall with a shotgun, and forced them to keep it all covered up. Yeah, that's what happened....

[stillcool]

18. s.o.p.

and for those who watch cable 'news' get ready for a slew of allegations about the inappropriate behaviors of those liberal democrats. He said she said next up.

[YDogg]

23. Chris Matthews was already doing that last night ...

... talking about the Dem rep with $$$ in his freezer. As if that had anything to do with foley.

[YDogg]

21. "It’s just not fair that they got caught up in this and became casualties”

I'd say it's not fair that Alexander did nothing substantive to stop the threat to this boy. Mostly, it's not fair that Alexander's colleague (and financial backer??) Foley preyed on the boy to begin with.

[Bluzmann57]

27. Well I have to say

this is a disturbing report. If this is true, what the hell ever happened to law and order? The police, local, state, federal, all of them, whatever had better get on this and protect that young man and his family. And arrest and prosecute to the fullest extent of the law those responsible.

[libhill]

31. You know the score -

if a right wing Republican nut case makes a terroristic threat, it's ok. The laws only apply to "Librals and A-rabs". The same rules apply to "values" - if a Democratic President gets a B.J. in the White House, it's a national trauma that reverberates for years. If a Rethuglican Congressman commits repeated acts that border on pedophilia, it's just a "naughty email". Just try not to get caught, and all will be well.

[NorthernSpy]

32. UPDATE: FBI examining possible threat to La. teenager

According to The Times Picayune, the FBI is investigating threats made by certain bloggers against the former page who had notified a member of Congress re inappropriate emails that he had received from Foley:

WASHINGTON -- The FBI is investigating a possible threat against the north Louisiana teenager who was on the receiving end of suggestive e-mails from disgraced former Rep. Mark Foley, a Louisiana congressman said Tuesday.

Rep. Rodney Alexander, R-Quitman, said Tuesday that the young man's life wasn't threatened, "but close to it."

"There are people out there who feel like he is the one who (accused) Foley," Alexander said. "There are some bloggers out there who sent him some ugly stuff."

Hmmmm....

[chill_wind]

34. Republican quote: Wasn't threatened but "close"to it."

What the Hell does that mean. Would that just be "Overly hostile" email ( the euphemistic opposite of "overly friendly email" )-- is that the spin and phrase he's casting for? They never stop nauseating me with their phony parsing.

[TankLV]

41. Probably like "a little bit pregnant"...

[Hobarticus]

36. Paging Homeland Security...

After all, what else are they good for?

[chill_wind]

39. Well, with our massive and perversive govt snooping apparatus

designed to keep us all so safe, this really cannot take long or be that tough. Right?

I'll predict the rest of this story will die. The media will not pursue it to its conclusion, or if they do it will be some blip on page 60 18 months from now.

[Raine]

33. Sick

those people are just plain sick. :crazy: