Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Labor Board Ruling May Bar Millions of Workers from Forming Unions

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 05:50 PM
Original message
Labor Board Ruling May Bar Millions of Workers from Forming Unions

http://blog.aflcio.org/2006/10/03/labor-board-ruling-may-bar-millions-of-workers-from-forming-unions/

Labor Board Ruling May Bar Millions of Workers from Forming Unions

by James Parks, Oct 3, 2006

The Republican-dominated National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) voted along party lines to slash long-time federal labor laws protecting workers’ freedom to form unions and opened the door for employers to classify millions of workers as supervisors. Under federal labor law, supervisors are prohibited from forming unions.

The NLRB ruled on three cases, collectively known as “Kentucky River,” but it’s the lead case Oakwood Healthcare Inc. that creates a new definition of supervisor. Dozens of cases involving the definition of supervisor now before the NLRB will be sent back, with employers having the option to craft arguments that will meet the new definition of supervisor and limit the number of workers who can join a union.

Although the Oakwood decision covers only nurses, the expanded definition of superviors means up to 8 million workers, including nurses, building trades workers, newspaper and television employees and others may be barred from joining unions. In Oakwood, the board agreed with the employer that charge nurses are supervisors. But the ruling also sets broad definitions for determining who is a supervisor that invites employers to classify nurses and many low-level employees with minor authority as supervisors. The decision was issued Sept. 29 but not released until today.


Vanessa Quinn, a nurse in Kenmore, N.Y., says the labor board’s decision is a disaster for nurses.

The board’s new definition essentially enables employers to make a supervisor out of any worker who has the authority to assign or direct another and uses independent judgment. Amazingly, the board also ruled that a worker can be classified as a supervisor if he or she spends as little as 10 percent to 15 percent of his or her time overseeing the work of others.

FULL story at link above.




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 05:51 PM
Response to Original message
1. K&R !
Horrible.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 05:55 PM
Response to Original message
2. this really is BAD news!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 05:55 PM
Response to Original message
3. REc
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 05:56 PM
Response to Original message
4. Half the nurses in this country have quit the profession
and the reason most often cited is the brutal working conditions.

This should take care of the other half.

Any hospital that tries to institute this will find itself with a lot of unfilled nursing positions.

Any unionized hospital that tries this will face a strike.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #4
10. That's what came to mind when I read the headline
Nursing is an enormously demanding profession, and I feel that they have been overworked and underpaid for years. So naturally, the Republicans want to place more of a burden on them, and pay them less. This is not the way to retain qualified, dedicated nurses. I am not a nurse, by the way, nor do I know any nurses personally.

My opinion has been formed from the patient's point of view. I have experienced first-hand the effect that nurses have on the quality of care patients receive. This is a huge mistake.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #4
25. this happened in a hospital seveal yers ago--many nurses labeled
"management"------ by administration. This is terrible----if allowed to stand.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #4
36. "Onerous working conditions", maybe? ... eom
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 05:57 PM
Response to Original message
5. Now That's It!!!
This is just so far over the line it's not even fathomable anymore!

WTF is this Administration trying to do, kill us?
Send us all out in the streets to collect bottles and cans???:wtf:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
6. and... supervisors dont get paid overtime..time and a half..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
partylessinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:01 PM
Response to Original message
7. Another American tragedy! Workers have fought long and hard for their
right to form unions to protect their rights for wages, benefits and safe working conditions. This is our country too, it doesn't belong to Repugs.

I know there has been a constant drumbeat against unions. Do not be misled. If it weren't for unions most workers would be earning minimum wages at best. Would you like to return to those dark ages?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:01 PM
Response to Original message
8. We live under a Fascist dictatorship, what did we expect?
Our tyrant Bush wants to turn this planet into a slave planet in which everyone becomes a servant of the ruling classes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:03 PM
Response to Original message
9. When the decided on the status of graduate assistants
They said that they were not workers because they were students, and if they aren't students then they're management anyway because they are managing a classroom.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:46 PM
Response to Original message
11. Unions are the only things looking after the rights of the workers
these days.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:52 PM
Response to Original message
12. Act Now to Defend Workers from KY River Decision simple E form

http://www.unionvoice.org/campaign/ky_river_assault?rk=YpSudid1SqjmE

To take action click the link above.



The National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) voted today to crush longstanding Federal labor laws protecting workers' right to join a union. The NLRB ruled on three cases, collectively known as "Kentucky River", but it is their decision on Oakwood Healthcare, Inc which could have a devastating impact on workers’ right to join a union. The board’s ruling essentially enables employers to make a supervisor out of any worker who has the authority to assign or direct another and uses independent judgment. They ruled that any worker can be classified as a supervisor if he or she spends as little as 10-15% of his or her time overseeing the work of others. Under current Federal labor laws, supervisors are prohibited from forming unions. The ruling could deny up to 8 million workers the right to choose union representation.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:52 PM
Response to Original message
13. K & R!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 06:57 PM
Response to Original message
14. Supervisors = no overtime
Strike nother blow for the so caled "family values" crowd.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:02 PM
Response to Original message
15. Hmm. This may have unintended consequences.
Employers will be tempted to classify workers as supervisors by giving them additional authority that they might not otherwise get. This could result in a bunch of unqualified "supervisors".

Or uneven application of the ruling will create resentment in other employees who see themselves as equal to the new "supervisors".

Also, workers who suddenly get classified as "supervisors" may expect higher pay, union or no union.

There also may be a bunch of workers who feel like they are overseeing others' work but are not getting the classification and the presumed extra pay to go with it, creating resentment.

Also, this very well may push the left-out workers toward a union more strongly than the typical union invitations.

This might be setting up some serious workplace strain.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ngant17 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #15
17. seems like some confusion at least
On one side, it would seem to make labor organizing more easier, as you only need 30% of hourly-paid workforce to start the voting process and to bring in a union. If you increase the number of supervisory personnel, then the percentages of union-material workers are also reduced which would mean a smaller number of votes needed to start the organizing vote.

However, this law may have a double-edged sword and you can't be sure yet whose votes would be counted in that process yet. There is no such thing as an hourly-paid manager or supervisor, they work typically on a salary which is separate from the worker's pay rates.

Sounds like a lot of this new law will have legal challenges before we can see what is going to really happen for the non-unionized workers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #15
24. What's the point of supervising someone if you can't hire or fire them?
Edited on Tue Oct-03-06 10:31 PM by LiberalFighter
Will they have them supervise each other? A supervises B and B supervises A
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:06 PM
Response to Original message
16. Ooh. My Chance for a Promotion?
Ooh ooh (All excited). I get to be a supervisor? This means I can boss people around! :evilgrin:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:56 PM
Response to Reply #16
35. Yes but
You will only earn half as much as the people you "supervise"
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 07:36 PM
Response to Original message
18. Oakwood was so poorly managed they had to close it down.
I can see why the Repugs sided with management.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:11 PM
Response to Original message
19. When will this god damn EVIL bullshit end?!
:grr: :grr: :grr:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
wholetruth00 Donating Member (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #19
22. When will Democrats put these issues before the public and push back?
And when will the American public become more concerned about their own civil liberties and Constitutional protections instead of the talking point agenda of the Republicans and sex scandals?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:49 PM
Response to Original message
20. And we're not storming the White House, why?
When will we have finally "had enough"?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 08:55 PM
Response to Original message
21. Nurses should quit en masse
pick one fine day like Halloween and hand in their resignation and quit. Give two weeks notice and demand that Congress put a law into effect that renders this null and void. This should apply for all industries and not just nursing.

There is no way they could get sufficient H1Bs into the hospitals to replace them. It sucks for the patients but I dont blame the nurses.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-03-06 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. wheres union leadership
nowadays. we need a second coming of eugene and emma.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 06:51 PM
Response to Reply #23
38. McEntee Assails Shameless NLRB Decision to Deprive Millions of Workers of

http://www.afscme.org/12154.cfm

From my International President.

For IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Wednesday, October 04, 2006
McEntee Assails Shameless NLRB Decision to Deprive Millions of Workers of Union Rights

Today's three decisions announced by the National Labor Relations Board irreparably change the landscape of the American workplace by giving private-sector employers a license to deprive millions of workers of their freedom to form a union.

In Oakwood Healthcare, Inc., the lead case, the Board set forth a new standard for determining supervisors. This new standard expands the universe for workers who will now be considered supervisors depriving them of any rights under the National Labor Relations Act. Although two decisions found that the workers were employees, not supervisors, the Board's new standard will make it easier to exclude workers, especially professional employees, from the Act's protections.

This shameless decision is a cheap, semantic trick by the NLRB, which we now know stands for the National League of Republican Businessmen. Clearly, the Bush administration and its cronies will stop at nothing to turn back the clock on America’s workers until they are the modern-day equivalent of serfs in a feudal society with no rights and no respect.

The American labor movement has built its reputation on improving the lives of countless workers and will not silently stand by and let the NLRB hand over workers’ rights to opportunistic employers without a fight. We can’t afford two more years of wrong choices.

Expect workers to participate in the November elections like never before by mobilizing to take back America in 2006. We're going to elect U.S. Senators who will insist that nominees to the NLRB be fair and impartial and ultimately get this decision reversed.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #38
40. thats reassuring....
ive heard nothing but crickets from my local. I.B.E.W. 347. im definitely itching for a fight. also too many right wingers in my local, kinda frightning.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 06:19 AM
Response to Original message
26. k&r
this is incredibly important news.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 11:03 AM
Response to Original message
27. Kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 11:04 AM
Response to Original message
28. Board Redefines Rules for Union Exemption - New York Times
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 10:21 AM by Karenca
The republican agenda has always included union breaking.

People won't notice this today, because they all aquiver with the SEX scandal, but this begins the process of denying Americans the right to unionize. The union movement, begun in the early 20th century was very hard won and included a lot of violence. Remember, there were the famous signs in factories, "If you don't come in Sunday, don't come in Monday."
I was a union member. The scum jobs that I had would have been so much worse if not for the unions.

The despicable, racist homophobes who call themselves Republicans-- people who don't want to vote Democratic because they fear minorities and homosexuals are so INCREDIBLY STUPID. THEY VOTE AGAINST THEIR OWN INTERESTS EVERY TIME. Unionization has vastly improved the lives of working people and they're on their way toward losing the right to unionize. It's sad that they're so stupid and keep voting for their own ruin. 1984 happens a little more every day.

Full article LINK : http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/04/washington/04labor.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin

< Board Redefines Rules for Union Exemption

By STEVEN GREENHOUSE
Published: October 4, 2006
In a decision condemned by unions but praised by business, the National Labor Relations Board issued a ruling yesterday that will exempt registered nurses — and many other workers — from union membership if they have certain kinds of supervisory duties.

Some labor experts predicted that the ruling could affect more than eight million workers who might also be deemed supervisors, including teachers who oversee aides. The board’s 3-to-2 decision involved nurses overseeing shifts at a Michigan hospital.

But in two related cases, the board ruled that workers with limited supervisory duties were not supervisors.
Labor unions have long feared such a decision, so much so that, in an unusual move, they held demonstrations at the labor board’s offices in July to urge it not to issue an expansive ruling that would exempt many workers from union coverage. >
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #28
29. I see no reason whatsoever that any supervisor shouldn't be able to join
Edited on Wed Oct-04-06 10:17 AM by w4rma
or form a union. *any* supervisor. I currently think only the specific unions themselves should be able to decide to exclude members of management.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:32 PM
Response to Reply #29
34. Yeah, how's this going to work with airline pilots?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #34
37. I was trying to think of the exception to this and I think you found it
Now I am trying to figure the reason that supervisors cannot be in the union (by law). Is it so that the company does not take control of the union?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pooja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #28
30. If anyone in Union is smart... they will come to Florida and get
the hospitality industry to strike for unions. Here is an industry that makes billions off of the world travllers and still pays most of its worker min. wage, min. benefits, horrible hours, no holidays, no sick pay... absolutely nothing for that service with a smile. Is it any wonder why the biggest complaint with a hotel or restraunt is staffing issues.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
davsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #28
31. NLRB has been selling out workers for a while now.
They are GOP whores and appointees. This kind of ruling comes as no shock, but it does make me feel ill. Remember, we live in sa country now where union membership is viewed as a "security risk" (Just ask the AFSCME members who lost their local at the Homeland Security Dept...) I have no doubt that we'll start to see Union membership deionized even further--possibly to the point it was during the "Palmer Raids." They have the laws on the books now, it is just a matter of time, IMO


Learn a bit more about the Palmer Raids here: http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/USAredscare.htm




Laura



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #28
32. This is terrible--esp for nureses!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
fladonkey Donating Member (100 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #32
33. Another.....
nail in the coffin of organized labor.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hope springs eternal Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-04-06 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #33
39. even worse when you consider
that many jobs can be done overseas and that immigrants can take what's left of here.


Makes me want to move to europe.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
peacebuzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 09:31 AM
Response to Original message
41. 1= megacorporations ; 0= labor.
this march for corporate control needs to be stopped.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #41
42. eliminate corporate personhood and it WILL stop n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dogfacedboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 10:18 AM
Response to Original message
43. I'm a "one man department". I guess that makes me my supervisor.
I get orders directly from sales, I do my own programming, scheduling, material ordering, and I produce the product. This isn't good, as some of us at work recently talked about organizing. We want salary increases, and some help on our health insurance costs.

These ass hats are so out of touch with working America.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 19th 2024, 07:11 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC