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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:45 AM
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Unlikely Terrorists On No-Fly List(Bolivia President, Dead 9/11 Hijackers)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/05/60minutes/main2066624.shtml

Unlikely Terrorists On No-Fly List
List Includes President Of Bolivia, Dead 9/11 Hijackers

(CBS) 60 Minutes has obtained the secret list used to screen airline passengers for terrorists and discovered it includes names of people not likely to cause terror, including the president of Bolivia, people who are dead and names so common, they are shared by thousands of innocent fliers.

Steve Kroft's investigation, in which an ex-FBI agent who worked on its al-Qaeda task force says the list of 44,000 names is ineffective, will be broadcast this Sunday, Oct. 8, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

The former FBI agent, Jack Cloonan, knew the list that was hastily assembled after 9/11, would be bungled. "When we heard the name list or no-fly list … the eyes rolled back in my head, because we knew what was going to happen," he says. "They basically did a massive data dump and said, 'Okay, anybody that's got a nexus to terrorism, let's make sure they get on the list,'" he tells Kroft.

The "data dump" of names from the files of several government agencies, including the CIA, fed into the computer compiling the list contained many unlikely terrorists. These include Saddam Hussein, who is under arrest, Nabih Berri, Lebanon's parliamentary speaker, and Evo Morales, the president of Bolivia. It also includes the names of 14 of the 19 dead 9/11 hijackers.

But the names of some of the most dangerous living terrorists or suspects are kept off the list.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 11:58 AM
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1. Well, Goddamit, think about it!
Would you want to find a dead 9-11 hijacker in the next seat when YOU fly?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:30 PM
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9. But what if they need to fly to Chicago ...
so they can vote? ;-)
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 05:01 PM
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13. Especially if they were zombies
..braaaaaiiinnnnnsssssss.......
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Anakin Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 07:02 PM
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15. Ah Hah Hah Hah! Good One!
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:00 PM
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2. Um, why is it a shock Morales is on the list?
Seriously, that's no shock to me. Does anyone really think this list is meant only to cover those expected to actually commit acts of terrorism?
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:03 PM
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3. He must be one of them terrorizing social democrat types. </sarcasm>(nt)
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 12:04 PM by w4rma
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:06 PM
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4. What, you think they aren't afraid of his kind? Socialism's contagious.
It might spread.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:45 PM
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6. I'm guessing he has other ways of getting around than
commercial flights.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:29 PM
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5. Senator Ted Kennedy (D. MA) Found Himself On That List at One Point
They took him off after he complained about it.

Democratic U.S. Senators still have a few privileges left.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:32 PM
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7. "US Intelligence" - gotta be the number one oxymoron these days
.
.
.

beats the previous record of "military intelligence" as the #1 oxymoron

So who believes the USA anymore?

or likes ?

or trusts ?

Sumthing to think about before Nov 7
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:33 PM
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8. Why do I keep thinking of Joe McCarthy?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:31 PM
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10. Nope:
not on the list. ;-)
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 05:19 PM
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14. Love your sig line!
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 04:21 PM
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11. In the fall of 2001 we lawyers in Delaware got a circular
about not writing title policies for terrorists. It included "usama bin laden" and "osama bin laden" in a long list of persons or entities we should not do an opinion of title to real property for.

Like we need to be warned about the possibility of Osama bin Laden buying property, in his own name, in Delaware.

:rofl:
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 05:00 PM
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12. Ha... it would be "funny" (sort of) if the 5 9/11 hijackers NOT on it...
...are the 5 that have since been found to be living...
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