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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:22 PM
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61% Believe Republican Leaders Have Been Protecting Foley
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 12:23 PM by Mark E. Smith
Rasmussen Reports 10/05/06

Sixty-one percent (61%) of American adults believe
that Republican leaders have been "protecting
Foley for several years." A Rasmussen Reports national
opinion survey conducted Tuesday and Wednesday nights
shows that only 21% believe that the leadership "just
learn about Foley's problems last week."

The data supports speculation that this issue could
have a devastating impact on Republican prospects
this fall. Even among Republicans, 31% believe the GOP
leadership has been protecting Foley. Just under half
(46%)of the GOP faithful believe that Congressional
leaders just learned about the problem.

http://rasmussenreports.com/2006/October%20Dailies/MarkFoley.htm

Choke on it,'pugs.
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:27 PM
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1. I would venture to guess
that it's much higher than 61%. I'm hearing conversation everywhere this week regarding the repuke party and their "family values." Very promising here in my neck of the woods.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:49 PM
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4. I actually think this (61%) is about right
What's the lowest that Bush's approval has ever been...high 30's to low 40's?

As a few posters have said, there's a certain percentage of people that would stand by the Repubs even if their leadership f*cked an animal on live TV.

At this point, 61% is pretty good.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 01:58 PM
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5. This is the rightwing Rasmussen
The actual number is higher, closer to 70% I would think.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:25 PM
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7. Hold on a second.
There's probably some portion of that remaining 39% who believe that the Republican leadership only covered it because they were threatened by some sort of homsoexual conspiracy.
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 07:24 AM
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14. Touche!
Edited on Fri Oct-06-06 07:25 AM by PurpleChez
Ya know...my two "what WOULDN'T the repukes make an excuse for" scenarios are:

1. W is caught on videotape molesting Make-a-Wish kids in a bathroom at Disney World. (I suspected they'd blame the kids, just as Limpballs and the rest are trying to blame the pages in the Foley matter.)

2. W is caught (again on tape) sodmonizing the corpse of the late Pope John Paul II. (In that case I suppose they'd argue that Article II implicitly gives the Executive the right to commit necrophilia with a pontiff in times of undeclared war.)

These people ADORED Ronald Reagan, yet they did not come even close to making excuses for him, attempting to exonerate him and his supporters from any and all responsibility, the way they do for Chucklenuts and his band of criminal idiots. It IS a cult.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:51 AM
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22. Now, now...
don't go giving Rick Santorum ideas....Man on dog--doggy-style...might win him votes...har, har...
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:36 PM
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2. I can't believe that after all the horrendous news....
coming out of iraq (bloodbath), the devastating book by bob woodward (911), and a man on boy sex scandal is what's gonna bring down the g.o.p. machine? I guess I should thank the gods for small blessings. I just hope that if any of these pages needs professional help, that it's made available to them. I'm sure they would have preferred not to be smack-dab in the middle of this shitstorm, and we all have Mark Foley to thank for that.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:26 PM
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8. This is really just the icing on the cake.
It wouldn't be such a big deal if the Republicans weren't in such bad trouble already.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:19 PM
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10. The man on boy scandal is just the last straw to most people.
Edited on Thu Oct-05-06 03:19 PM by w4rma
Everything else is very important, too.
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 11:04 AM
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23. The man on boy scandal has the advantage of MSM reporting
Sex sells so well that even the corporate weasels in charge of the broadcast "news" can't keep it off the air.
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 12:37 PM
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3. Only 31% of GOP "Believe" Leadership protected Foley
Who are you going to believe, me, or your lying eyes?




Groucho Marx, American Comedian, Actor and Singer, 1890-1977




“Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others.”
Groucho Marx quote



“All people are born alike - except Republicans and Democrats.”
Groucho Marx quote



“There is no sweeter sound than the crumbling of your fellow man”


“Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it, and then misapplying the wrong remedies.”
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:30 AM
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21. I saw that too... Republians are fucking idiots
All of them. It's gotten to the point where there's our party and the dumb party. The dumb party's leaders are evil and sneaky, while their members are just plain stupid and willfully ignorant.

Rp
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civildisoBDence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 03:38 PM
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27. Got any more of those, Demeter?
Funny as hell. Groucho also said, "I wouldn't belong to a country club that would have me as a member" (a slap at anti-Semitic snobs like George Allen.)

This Foley scandal and the whole GOP meltdown almost makes up for six years of being screwed in the ass by Republicans...but only if we take the House in November.

Newsprism
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 02:24 PM
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6. About the same percentage that despise Bush--I like it.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:14 PM
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9. I think the percentage is higher than that!
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mhatrw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:29 PM
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11. Here's ANOTHER POLL with the same basic results.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/10/05/ap/politics/mainD8KIKPEO0.shtml

Congressional Republicans, already struggling against negative public perceptions of Congress, now face voters who say new scandals will significantly influence their vote in November.

With midterm elections less than five weeks away, the latest Associated Press-Ipsos poll found that about half of likely voters say recent disclosures of corruption and scandal in Congress will be very or extremely important when they cast their vote next month.

The poll was conducted this week as House Republican leaders came under increasing pressure to explain what they knew of sexually explicit messages from former Rep. Mark Foley of Florida to teenage pages.

More troubling for Republicans, the poll found that by a margin of nearly 2-to-1 likely voters says Democrats would be better at combatting political corruption than Republicans.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 03:58 PM
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12. In related news, 87% of GOP voters believe the sky is green and up is down
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-05-06 08:44 PM
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13. kick
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 08:14 AM
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15. .....KR
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:03 AM
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16. What was it that the great Republican leader Abraham Lincoln said
"Fellow-citizens, we cannot escape history. We of this Congress and this administration, will be remembered in spite of ourselves. No personal significance, or insignificance, can spare one or another of us. The fiery trial through which we pass, will light us down, in honor or dishonor, to the latest generation."
--From the December 1, 1862, Annual Message to Congress -- Concluding Remarks

http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/speeches/congress.htm
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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:10 AM
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17. 61% think republicans are f.......... LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:31 AM
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18. So how are they going to steal this election with a spread like that?
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:48 AM
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19. They can't.
This scandal is actually heating up more. No way it will fade from the public awareness before the election.

It's October, Karl. Surprise!!!

Game set and match, we win!
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 10:13 AM
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20. don't count your chickens before they hatch.
Things look good for the Dems right now because the GOP can't get a handle on this message, but keep in mind that joe swing-voter and fare weather liberals and conservatives (swing voters too IMO) are nauseated with Dems as well as Repubs. so there will be a fair amount of nose holding when casting votes this election cycle, and tho that may work for Dems in the 'lesser of two evils' voting, over time it will be hard for Dems to maintain that lead. Dems still need a message that the voters can, simply, identify with, and 'answers' to voters questions that doesn't seem like Repub-lite. And lets face it, so long as the DLC holds power with the Dems, that ain't gonna happen.

My worry is any victories for Dems this fall will become a fluke if the DLC botches it up (as they almost always do)
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gotigers Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:52 PM
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25. oh be more optomistic nt..lol
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gotigers Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 02:51 PM
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24. perception is
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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 03:26 PM
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26. Note to "values voters":
If you simply "can't" vote Dem, JUST STAY HOME!
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 09:01 AM
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33. A new theme on Value Voters
Value Voters are hypocrits and only support 'values' when it meshes with their biases.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-06-06 09:10 PM
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28. The Issue is Clear
We have no need to debate this with the right anymore.... The facts are known, GOP leadership covered up the Foley Affair to protect their political positions.

When discussing it, discuss it as an accepted fact. "Of course Hastert covered up for Foley, he had to in order to protect his party."

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beltanefauve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:46 AM
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29. Party over country!
Party over country! Sing it loud and clear! We've been saying it for years. But this time, we have a very simple, clear-cut context in which EVERYONE can grasp the idea this time. The Wingers have always had the catch phrases in their favor, such as "tax and spend" and "cut and run". Simple, easy to grasp, and not too many syllables, either. Now we have one of our own, only ours is TRUE, and given the situation with Hastert, its so damn obvious to even the most simple-minded.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 02:54 AM
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30. bwahaha. ahem. my gosh, this is troublesome for the leadership, is it not?
i say, i'm quite perturbed!


bwahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 03:51 AM
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31. The Pubs support Pedophilia by protecting Party over children...
`Shameful and Sinful at the same time...
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zenturtle Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-07-06 08:46 AM
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32. "No Child Left Alone": post-Foley Republican policy slogan
I think that a fitting post-Foley slogan to describe their
policy might just be "No Child Left Alone".
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