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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:09 AM
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White House rejects North Korea talks
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WASHINGTON - The Bush administration rejected anew Tuesday direct talks with North Korea and said it would not be intimidated by a reported threat from Pyongyang that it could fire a nuclear-tipped missile unless the U.S. acts to resolve the standoff.

"This is the way North Korea typically negotiates by threat and intimidation," said U.S. Ambassador John Bolton. "It's worked for them before. It won't work for them now."

In response to North Korea's purported nuclear test, the United States is pressing at the United Nations for stringent sanctions on Pyongyang, including a trade ban on military and luxury items, the power to inspect all cargo entering or leaving the country, and freezing assets connected with its weapons programs.

Meanwhile, Democratic New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a former U.S. ambassador who has visited North Korea, said the Bush administration should abandon its long-standing refusal to engage in direct talks with North Korea. He said President Bush was right to seek sanctions against North Korea in the U.N., but should next move to direct talks with the reclusive nation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061010/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_nkorea

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sugapablo Donating Member (483 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:10 AM
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1. Again, the WH disregards the first rule of conflict...
Know thy enemy.

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I_Will Donating Member (211 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:18 AM
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5. Again, the WH disregards the first rule of irony...

This is the way North Korea typically negotiates by threat and intimidation," said U.S. Ambassador John Bolton. "It's worked for them before. It won't work for them now."
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:36 AM
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12. Exactly... a friend of mine has lived & traveled over in that area for a
couple of decades says that the way BushCo are handling this is not at all the way it needs to e done.

BushCo and the neo-CONs don't even seem to TRY to understand different cultures so they're going to screw this up big time just like everything else.
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psychopomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:45 AM
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14. A good point
and to that end, I might add, you can see Pyongyang up close and personal on Google Maps, just switch to the satellite image. One gets the impression on inspection that aside from their military not much is being funded in their society.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:17 PM
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25. Give your enemy a graceful way out, and they might actually take it.
Bush Administration is so clueless. Jaw, jaw is the only answer. The Bush Admin. is incredibly naive or full of itself if it thinks it can resolve this permanently.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:10 AM
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2. What collossal frigging morans. Bolton is truly a waste of good
air and space.

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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:11 AM
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3. That's right, Junior, never admit you're wrong no matter what
Edited on Tue Oct-10-06 08:12 AM by Lasher
Just stay the course straight into that iceberg that's dead ahead. That'll show 'em.

Edit for typo
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:11 AM
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4. Headline same
Edited on Tue Oct-10-06 08:13 AM by OhioChick
context changed somewhat.


WASHINGTON - The Bush administration rejected anew Tuesday direct talks with North Korea and said it would not be intimidated by a reported threat from Pyongyang that it could fire a nuclear-tipped missile unless the U.S. acts to resolve the standoff.

"This is the way North Korea typically negotiates by threat and intimidation," said U.S. Ambassador John Bolton. "It's worked for them before. It won't work for them now."

The White House said, meanwhile, there is a "remote possibility" that the world never will be able to fully determine whether North Korea succeeded in conducting a nuclear test Monday. While acknowledging that the action was provocative, White House press secretary Tony Snow suggested that it's possible that the test was something less than it appeared.

"You could have something that it very old and off-the-shelf here, as well, in which case they've dusted off something that is old and dormant," he said. He said the intelligence community is continuing to assess the explosion.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061010/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_nkorea
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:27 AM
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10. So yesterday it was a nuclear test and today it's a purported test -
so are they calling this a NK bluff that called their bluff in a round about way so as not to loose the fear factor? Or are they talkin' outta their ass again? It's so hard to keep track of these liars. I remember when they made a big deal of the missle tests this summer only to later find out they all pretty much failed. There was an article out at that time by some "expert" that claimed it was quite possible China and Russia knew ahead of time and sort of let NK get by with it hoping it would distract the US from Iran. Funny how these nuclear tests come at the same time we're building up our military presence in the ME. :shrug:
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:20 AM
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6. Quelle surprise.
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:21 AM
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7. This broke my irony meter:
"This is the way North Korea typically negotiates by threat and intimidation," said U.S. Ambassador John Bolton.


- Make7
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:23 PM
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26. I bent my frame laughing at that statement also!
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:22 AM
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8. Let's give it up, to the resounds...
of cognitive dissonance

"This is the way North Korea typically negotiates by threat and intimidation," said U.S. Ambassador John Bolton.

"It's worked for them before. It won't work for them now."

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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:33 AM
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11. Loosely translated: "we won't repeat Clinton's mistakes"
Diplomacy obviously wasn't working nearly as well as the Bush "cowboy doctrine".
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:25 AM
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9. Same old same old.
That Dolton comment made my head explode. What a moran.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:39 AM
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13. Hey, they work just like * does
This is the way North Korea typically negotiates by threat and intimidation
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 09:23 AM
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15. Dolts! This is urged by both James Baker and Bill Richardson. K&R
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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 09:48 AM
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16. Sure, why talk?
Your foreign policy approach has been working just fine!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 10:10 AM
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17. Under Bush we have Nuclear proliferation-----and now they will not
talk.


What next!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 10:10 AM
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18. rec.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:47 PM
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19. Kim wants MORE money.......
I can't believe that :dunce: Bush gave him $95 Million to build his Nukes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/1908571.stm

:shrug: What can ya do but laugh.:rofl:
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coalition_unwilling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:49 PM
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20. The U.S. typically negotiates by threat and intimidation. Why else do
you think North Korea decided to go nuclear?
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LetsGoMurphys Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:54 PM
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21. "Let us never negotiate out of fear,
but let us never fear to negotiate." -JFK. Why does Bush think its makes him look like a tough guy to not talk to these people. I say a true leader would look much stronger by taking such initiative, especially when there is a possible threat to American security, since they think have the national security trump card.
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 02:58 PM
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22. My irony meter just pegged.
A lot of UN ambassadors have to be ROTFL right now.

"This is the way North Korea typically negotiates by threat and intimidation," said U.S. Ambassador John Bolton. "It's worked for them before. It won't work for them now."

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twaddler01 Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 03:10 PM
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23. Sure, so lets cut off communication...
Makes perfect sense :eyes:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:07 PM
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24. Apparently everyone in the bush administration has a death wish.
I'm really perplexed as to how there can be any other reason for this colossal stupidity and arrogance, unless of course they have irrefutable intelligence that NK can't really do diddley-squat, and this is all for swaggering show.

Yeah, that's it. NK can't do squat, so that's why bush is blowing hot air out both ends. All the same, his "bite me" attitude doesn't cut it.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:40 PM
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27. Hmmm, a silent diplomacy
Very clever, very shrewd.

It's just what the North Koreans didn't suspect.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:43 PM
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28. Duhhh... which way did he go?.... duhhh (nt)
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 08:54 PM
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29. Send Karen Hughes in as a decoy.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 09:07 PM
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30. Don't know what that means
but it sure made me laugh!

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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-10-06 09:44 PM
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31. We reject talks because we're committed to Diplomacy..
I'm begining to speak in 'Bushspeak'.

Where the f#ck is Condi Rice????
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