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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:10 PM
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(Baker) Iraq a 'helluva mess': former US secretary of state
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 06:12 PM by truthpusher
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/17/061017215022.7lka0iz5.html

Iraq a 'helluva mess': former US secretary of state

Oct 17 5:50 PM US/Eastern

Former US secretary of state James Baker was visibly shocked when he last visited Iraq, and said the country was in a "helluva mess", the BBC reported.

(snip)

Citing a unnamed close friend and ally of Baker's, himself a top politician, the BBC said that Baker added that "there simply weren't any easy solutions".

(snip)

Citing unnamed members of Baker's committee, The Los Angeles Times on Monday said that two options under consideration would represent reversals of US policy: withdrawing American troops in phases, and bringing neighboring Iran and Syria into a joint effort to stop the fighting.

The BBC also reported that a third possibility was under consideration -- to concentrate on getting stability in Iraq, and stop aiming to establish a democracy there.

(snip)

"It's not going to be 'stay the course,'" the paper quoted one participant as saying. "The bottom line is, (current policy) isn't working. There's got to be another way."






link: http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/17/061017215022.7lka0iz5.html
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:14 PM
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1. Thank you Mr. Baker. YOU helped create this mess with Fla. 2000
And don't you forget it.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:43 PM
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8. Mr. Baker, the BFEE consigliere.
Mr. James Baker III carries Bu$hco's water, and in the case of Watergate, the bags of money. Always has .. always will. But that water has long turned to blood, and Baker is covered with it. Just like Bu$hco. How dare Baker even speak after securing the installation of the petulant, vapid little frat-boy Bu$h into the presidency won fair-and-square by Al Gore?


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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:31 PM
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22. Shocked that neocon economics (aka looting) isn't good for a country.
What a maroon.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:14 PM
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2. Tell that to peter
fuking king.
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:14 PM
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3. But Dick says it's going well !
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2889821


'course, for the Halliburton, Bechtel, Blackwater etc board members and stock holders ... its going just according to plan. :mad:
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:55 PM
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20. Remarkably well! Yes he did say that.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:26 PM
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4. Please write the plan clearly and distinctly,
on the back of President George W. Bush's resignation letter.

Staple any explanatory notes to Vice President Dick (the asshat) Cheney's arrest warrant.

Thank you for your cooperation.


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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:39 PM
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5. helluva mess = civil war
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:40 PM
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6. They even use the same language ...
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 06:41 PM by BadGimp
"there simply weren't any easy solutions".

"stop aiming to establish a democracy there. "

""The bottom line is, (current policy) isn't working. There's got to be another way.""

and my personal fave...:

""It's not going to be 'stay the course,'""



When I think of all the lives that could have been spared if we had better leadership in the Whitehouse. It's a farking tragedgy of epic proportions..

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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:40 PM
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7. Yes, thanks for helping Bush steal the 2000 election
so we could have the war to nowhere, we really appreciate the millions of tax dollars
and the American lives lost and soldiers disabled forever for the war to nowhere, and
the countless innocent Iraqis who have suffered and died in the war to nowhere.

Thanks, again, J.B.

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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:46 PM
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9. Baker helped create this mess
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 06:46 PM by DoYouEverWonder
Now he thinks he's going to tell us how to fix it? What part of no thank-you does he not understand?

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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 06:49 PM
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10. Baker created this national nightmare.
Edited on Tue Oct-17-06 06:50 PM by fooj
Actions have consequences.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:05 PM
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11. It's like the little nursery rhyme: The Butcher, the Baker,
the Coffin Maker.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:06 PM
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12. I smell sulfur. This is a Trojan Horse.
Baker is at the heart of EVERYTHING evil, and never forget it.

He is drawing fire for the neocons by pretending to oppose the BFEE, so the old-line GHWB supporters will fall in line.

Whenever James Baker III is hauled out of mothballs, treachery is afoot. Don't be fooled.

It's all about power and who holds it.

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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:32 PM
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14. Yup.
Baker, Botts & Satan law firm is involved with every fucking dictatorship in the Middle East and every crooked bank and the financial scheming that helps his "special clients" and himself make blood money off this clusterfuck of historical proportions.

This is their fixer, and that's what he does. He's not doing this for love of country - it's all about the cabal.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:34 PM
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23. He may also be a true believer. There actually are people who believe
unregulated economies thrive. He may genuinely be shocked to see pet theories so blatantly and rapidly debunked.

Of course, that he is also evil is a given.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:20 PM
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13. On that third option....
Saddam is available!

--IMM
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:40 PM
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15. No one could have imagined it, right, Jim?
No one could have possibly forseen that Shrubbolini could screw things up so much.

Ever regret helping Lord Bunnypants now?
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 07:43 PM
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16. No flies on him.
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:11 PM
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17. They couldn't make this stuff up.
If hundreds of thousands of people weren't dead and our Constitution wasn't shredded, this would be funny.
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pa28 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:18 PM
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18. Well Baker. You bragged about "fixing" the 2000 election.
Why don't you fix this?
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 08:44 PM
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19. Visably shocked the last time he visited??
The Green Zone was that bad? What bs.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 09:10 PM
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21. Hmmm sounds like a Slash-n-Dash or a Snip-n-Bolt or a Sever-n-Escape
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-17-06 11:35 PM
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24. LOL! nt
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