AP: Judge Orders Cheney Visitor Logs Opened

[DeepModem Mom]

Judge Orders Cheney Visitor Logs Opened
Oct 19
By MATT APUZZO
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON

A federal judge has ordered the Bush administration to release information about who visited Vice President Dick Cheney's office and personal residence, an order that could spark a late election season debate over lobbyists' White House access.

The Washington Post asked for two years of White House visitor logs in June but the Secret Service refused to process the request. Government attorneys called it "a fishing expedition into the most sensitive details of the vice presidency."

U.S. District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina ruled Wednesday that, by the end of next week, the Secret Service must produce the records or at least identity them and justify why they are being withheld.

The newspaper sought logs for anyone visiting Cheney, his legal counsel, chief spokesman and other top aides and advisers.

The Secret Service had no comment on the ruling Thursday. In court documents, government attorneys said releasing the documents would infringe on Cheney's ability to seek advice....

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/10/19/D8KRQR401.html

[hippiechick]

1. Sweet! Hope someone keeps Dick away from the white out !!

:evilfrown:

[rodeodance]

11. VERY delicious!---

[Zorra]

26. Or Oliver North away from the shredder. n/t

[maddezmom]

2. Hope it works this time

K&R

[wtmusic]

3. I wanna know when and where Jeff Gannon logged in nt

[electropop]

17. Huhhuhuhuh! He said "log!"

;-)

[babylonsister]

4. So they aren't omnipotent! Who knew?! nt

[JohnnyRingo]

5. And they're saying GFY

This is only a Fed judge's demand, I expect Cheney to refuse until asked by "a higher authority".

That seems to work for the other criminal in the WH.

[ryanus]

6. I think this is good, but isn't Cheney smart enough to not log everyone?

[smoogatz]

18. I don't know--the Nazis kept very detailed records of their crimes.

It seems to be a common fascist impulse.

[DoYouEverWonder]

20. They do seem to love to document their crimes

Reminds me of the Nixon tapes. Why would anyone want to record most of those conversations that were so damning?

[ryanus]

25. Good point about Nixon

and maybe they keep records so that the visitor couldn't deny every meeting with Cheney.

[Nevernose]

44. Nixon was so arrogant he probably thought they weren't damning

The way the current cabal supersedes them in the Arrogance Department is that they KNOW they're doing wrong and think they can keep it secret, even when everyone's watching them (and they're succesful at that, too!). And even if it DOES get out, their evangelical base will still vote for them, so it doesn't really matter.

Thanks to the laziness, apathy, greed, and stupidity of apparently a majority of Americans, these shitheads have carte blanche to screw us any time they want, any way they want.

[rocktivity]

7. Not to mention Jeff Gannon's access..

:evilgrin:
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[aquart]

9. Heh. Heh. Heh.

Watch Dick ignore the judge.

[0007]

48. Watch John Negroponte jump into the mess and say that

in the time of war Dick shall be honored with executive privilege.

[aquart]

51. Think John will have a guest house in Paraguay?

Cause he has so much experience in South America.

[NewJeffCT]

57. I mean, that is clearly the case

The Founding Fathers wanted an all powerful supreme leader in times of war - answerable to nobody - and that is what the Iraq War resolution vote declares. I mean, it's clear as day, can't you tell? Only appeasers and terrorist symps would disagree.

This is the little known "exception" clause that was recently discovered written on a post-it note that the Founding Fathers attached to the back of the Constitution. The Exception clause declares the Constitution null & void when the Decider says we are at war, and replaces it with a modified version of the Code of Hammurabi.

[flyarm]

10. please remind people these are the same fuckers..who wanted all info

on Gore and Clinton..and were obsessed by who slept in the Lincoln bedroom!! and were relentless about it!!

more do as i say..not as i do.. bulllshit!

i want the records for gannon!! and abramoff!!

fly

[klyon]

59. I want to know who was at the energy meetings

where they divided up Iraq's oil
and only they know what else

[Robbien]

12. I expect Cheney will not release the logs

He will stall and stall and stall.

If he is still refuses, who is going to force him to turn it over?

[Roy]

28. That would be the best thing to happen.....

If only the Dems would start asking why the stall and suggesting what the motives for the stall could be.

[0rganism]

13. "the most sensitive details of the vice presidency" = visitor logs?

If that's the case, we got us a problem, no matter how you interpret it.

[Canuckistanian]

15. He's a public servant. What are "sensitive details"?

If you need secret meetings, go to a bunker somewhere.

But in the people's houses, everything should be out in the open.

[TankLV]

43. He already HAS a "bunker somewhere"

Don't forget his months of absenses...

[klyon]

60. yes, I say put the tape recorders back in the oval office

and other offices as well

[Lars39]

14. K&R

Something's gotta give somewhere. :kick:

[never cry wolf]

16. I wonder which two years and if the Energy Task force is covered

I assume the participants in said task force would be visitors to darth cheney's office.

[BeHereNow]

34. My question exactly- The Energy Task Force...

Why, exactly , has the list of participants never been disclosed?
Gee...I wonder...
:sarcasm:
BHN

[Lasher]

50. Yep, I was wondering about the Energy Task Force too.

But I was also wondering why this is going to work when we can't get access to the Energy Task Force records after 5 years of trying.

[smoogatz]

19. It'll be overturned,most likely.

The SCOTUS already ruled that Cheney didn't have to turn over records pertaining to the energy task force; his lawyers are using the same argument here that they used in that case.

[Richard Steele]

21. Never gonna happen: they were ORDERED to release AbuGhraib photos too...

And they simply ignored the order. Over a year now, IIRC.

Anyone who thinks we're gonna see those logs
is going to be very disappointed.

Besides, the Judge already gave them an easy out:
QUOTE:"...the Secret Service must produce the records
or at least identity them and justify why they are being withheld."

So that's it- they'll just issue a "justification" for witholding them,
and that's that.

[BeHereNow]

35. Outrageous, isn't it?

The most lawless gang of predators to every
troll the White House.
Question is, WHO will hold them accountable?
WHO?
"We," the people, have yet to wake from the collective coma.
It's really unbelievable if you think about it.
Now what time is the latest mind numbing TV show airing?

BHN

[rodeodance]

55. it takes a LONG while to make up excuses----think of all the brain work

it requires. te he.

[MADem]

22. Judge Orders Cheney Visitor Logs Opened

WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the Bush administration to release information about who visited Vice President Dick Cheney's office and personal residence, an order that could spark a late election season debate over lobbyists' White House access.

The Washington Post asked for two years of White House visitor logs in June but the Secret Service refused to process the request. Government attorneys called it "a fishing expedition into the most sensitive details of the vice presidency."

U.S. District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina ruled Wednesday that, by the end of next week, the Secret Service must produce the records or at least identity them and justify why they are being withheld.

The newspaper sought logs for anyone visiting Cheney, his legal counsel, chief spokesman and other top aides and advisers.

The Secret Service had no comment on the ruling Thursday. In court documents, government attorneys said releasing the documents would infringe on Cheney's ability to seek advice.
....

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/politics/15798507.htm

WOW!

[sui generis]

23. what is the court's remedy?

can they hold him in contempt and throw his happy ass in the klink for a couple of years until he repents?

[goforit]

24. Why do they want the guestlist? Did Osama have dinner with the Cheneys?

[truthisfreedom]

27. they're going to pick through cheney's logs? eww.

actually, the logs are probably pretty accurate. a guy like that has to know who he's beholden to, and who's beholden to him. he probably has diaries that would put him away for several lifetimes.

[IWantAChange]

29. former Nixonites still chronicling their misdeeds??

How sweet would that be??

:wtf:

[progressoid]

30. I'm sure they'll get right on this.....in 2009

[daleo]

31. Cheney's logs

Must scrub brain now...

[Truthiness Inspector]

32. This could get very interesting. n/t

[xchrom]

33. i think he'll wiggle away from this -- i.e.

they can produce reasons for not coming up with the records -- according to the article outling the judges instructions.

however -- this isn't the first time this admin has been told to produce docs and that in itself is a huge story.

it goes to the escessive secretive nature of this admin.

i will remain hopeful re: investigations if dems take both houses.

[Uncle Joe]

36. Cheney is above the law,

remember the sheriff or deputy could not even see him until a day had passed after he mistook an attorney for a quail and shot him in the face.

I am sure this judge means well, but Cheney will just appeal it up to Scalia for his free pass.

[Anakin Skywalker]

37. I Bet Cheney's Got a Lot of Page Visits.

[Zan_of_Texas]

46. Mebbe not page, mebbe Swiss Miss though.

(ambassador to Switzerland, Texas woman, who was hunting with Dick at the Texas ranch the day he shot the lawyer)

[tblue]

38. Judge orders release of Cheney visiting logs

How much access did lobbyists have to the vice president?

Updated: 58 minutes ago
WASHINGTON - A federal judge has ordered the Bush administration to release information about who visited Vice President Dick Cheney’s office and personal residence, an order that could spark a late election-season debate over lobbyists’ White House access.

While researching the access lobbyists and others had on the White House, The Washington Post asked in June for two years of White House visitor logs. The Secret Service refused to process the request, which government attorneys called “a fishing expedition into the most sensitive details of the vice presidency.”

U.S. District Judge Ricardo M. Urbina said Wednesday that, by the end of next week, the Secret Service must produce the records or at least identity them and justify why they are being withheld.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15332695

GIVE IT 5 STARS ON YAHOO NEWS: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061019/ap_on_go_pr_wh/white_house_logs

[CatholicEdHead]

39. In the end they won't be released

It will be appealed and then it will just be outright refused and that will be that.

[David Zephyr]

40. This will be a re-tread of "energy panel" where Scalia said "Quack, Quack"

You are right.

[liberal N proud]

41. Sheets of paper full of black blobs

Black out of all names and who they were there to see.

[LetsThink]

42. They've all surely been scrubbed anyway.........

.....how jaded is THAT conviction ?

[Major Hogwash]

45. How many times did Ken Lay visit Cheney during the energy policy discussio

And how many times did the oil execs meet with Cheney?

Bush doesn't have an energy policy, unless you count being drug around by the nose by oil shieks from OPEC.

The Vice-President does not have "executive privilege".
Disclose those logs now!!

[Zan_of_Texas]

47. How many times has Ken Lay visited the VP in the past week?!?!?!

That's what we need to know!

As for what Cheney bases his secrecy on, hell, it's all a trade secret, because everything about him is for sale.

[hughee99]

49. Is this a FOIA issue?

They're asking for the public release of all records of anyone who visited Darth, his legal counsel, his top aides and advisers, both at home and at work. This is not a subpoena where they want the records as evidence in a court case, they just want all these records to be released to the public. This is what they're asking for, right?

[ima_sinnic]

52. they continually forget they are the EMPLOYEES of We The People

Since when could you keep logs of who visited in your office a "secret" from your boss?
These pricks have GOT to go.

[SpiralHawk]

53. Jeff Gannon?

The notorius male prostitute visited George AWOL Bush's White House over 100 times, according to the official Secret Service records.

Could he also have also been visiting Dick "Five Deferments" Cheney?

[zanne]

54. "the Secret Service must produce the records or..."

"at least identify them and justify why they are being withheld." Justify why they are being withheld? That's an easy out; national security, of course.

[brg5001]

56. Darth Vader's meetings are super-double-extra-secret

Message from Darth's Office:

"Darth's meetings with Jack Abrahamoff and other representatives of the Dark Side must remain secret for um, er, uh...National Security. Or something. We can't have members of the public verifying our statements lest the Democrats, I mean, terrorists, use them to interfere with our important work on behalf of Jesus, I mean ExxonMobil, I mean Haliburton, I mean the American people. So I must reiterate, 'F*&*^ you.'"

[MissMillie]

58. Mr. Cheney, if you're going to be in charge of a democratic society

then your ability to seek advice needs to be able to stand up to scrutiny.

Open the blinds. Light is the ultimate sanitizer.

[mikelgb]

61. hey if you don't have anything to hide

why should you be worried?

[mirandapriestly]

62. What, good news? I'm not sure how to handle it

I forgot how. I haven't seen our Justice dept or any other arms of our government work for 6 years!