Olympic Games 'will be terrorism target'

[T_i_B]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6067666.stm

The Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Ian Blair has said the 2012 Olympic Games in London will be a "huge target" for terrorists.

He said detailed security plans were being drawn up for the Games, including appointing 30,000 security officers.

All of the 200,000 workers involved in the Games will be vetted to see if they are a security risk or are working illegally in the UK.

Sir Ian said: "There can be no doubt that the 2012 games - if the current threat scenario stays the same - will be a huge target and we have to understand that and work on that basis.

[sui generis]

1. oh like it hasn't before? this is the first time?

Sir Ian, overstating the obvious is not the best means of guaranteeing ticket sales, if what you meant to convey was that the games would be "safe" with your additional security precautions.

Someone send Sir Ian to marketing 101.

[Warpy]

2. This doesn't seem to be the way bin Laden's bunch thinks

although splinter groups might, like the PLO in Munich.

Bin Laden seems to go after government, trade and intelligence targets, not civilian pastimes.

There's always a first time for everything, I guess, but this doesn't fit the pattern of the large scale attacks against the west.

At least unemployment will drop for the duration.

[T_i_B]

3. Actually, this does fit right in with Al-Quaida

For starters, the July 7th attacks happened the day after London won the Olymic bid for 2012. (For some reason the LIHOP/MIHOP lunatics never seem to acknolege this fact.)

Bin Laden seems to go after government, trade and intelligence targets, not civilian pastimes.

And yet again, the July 7th bombings did target civilians. I think it's quite fair to say that the jihadi's are not too fussed about whether they kill civillian or government infidel in the west.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

9. "For some reason the LIHOP/MIHOP lunatics never seem to acknolege..."

I don't think they understand the significance of winning the Olympics for Blair. It's not like that side of the story got a huge amount of play in the US, as far as I can tell. (I'm "over here," too.)

[T_i_B]

21. That's the thing with conspiracy theorists

They alway claim that it's all in the timing with things such as this and yet their version of events is so skewed as to be utterly useless to anyone who wants to know what the situation really is. Their ideas about why the July 7th bombings were "convenient" were utter nonsense because they deliberately ignored the good things that were happening around the British government at the time (there were quite a lot of good news stories for Tony Blair at the time, the government appeared to be doing some good over 3rd world poverty at the G8, the Olympics were secured for London and all this on the back of a 3rd election victory!)

But their explanations of why the terror alerts in August were "convenient" were the worst. As if Tony Blair is going to close down heathrow because Joe Lieberman lost a primary! :crazy: eyes:

Mind you, one of the best things about a site such as DU is that you can see the idiocy of the tin foil hat crowd in something approaching real time and you can see what really motivates them, and that's the really unpleasant part about all this, the fact that most conspiracy theories are not so much based on the truth as on blind hatred of anything from whoever is in government to any religious grout the tin foil hat merchant doesn't like. You get too see people making their mind up about "whodunit" judging solely on their own bigotries and prejudices, and then trying to distort events to fit their bigotries and prejudices.

[anotherdrew]

22. you are a conspiracy theorist

"trying to distort events to fit their bigotries and prejudices."

like you've just done

[T_i_B]

23. Rubbish

I'm just referring to what was going on on DU at the time of the July 7th bombings and also at the time of the August terror alert in the UK. (Oddly enough though, I was on DU on September 11th 2001 and we didn't have the tin foil hat crowd crowing over that one at the time I'm pleased to say.) Not to mention the death of Al-Zarquawi and of course I really ought to mention the theories that popped up on DU about the US government causing the boxing day Tsunami. There's plenty of evidence for this behaviour on the part of the tin foil hat crowd on DU and I really don't have the timne to go through it all in detail.

Suffice to say that there is plenty of ammo on DU for anyone who wishes to paint the left as bigoted hate fuelled lunatic conspracy theorists, and indeed there are one or two sites out there which do use DU for that express purpose.

DUer's have to realize that not everything that goes on the the world is the fault of George Bush, Tony Blair, Jews, Freemasons, Christians, Bilderberg or 12 foot high lizard men. Not everything in life is the fault of groups that you don't like. Indeed sometimes you have to look at your own people to see what's wrong.

[anotherdrew]

24. you're lumping too many things together.

yes there is a fringe of foolish speculation and rumor, blaming the Tsunami on the US is a fine example. but don't lump that in with the fact that western governments have conducted false-flag operations against their own people, and may have done so again in more recent events.

please google: Gladio

[T_i_B]

27. You've never heard the story of the littleboy who cried wolf then?

yes there is a fringe of foolish speculation and rumor, blaming the Tsunami on the US is a fine example. but don't lump that in with the fact that western governments have conducted false-flag operations against their own people, and may have done so again in more recent events.

The knee jerk cries of conspracy you see on here done on the basis of no evidence other then the posters own bigotries is

a) more then a fringe on DU
b) done every time we have a terror alert or worst still an actual terrorist attack
c) a guaranteed way to make the left look like idiots (not that we need any help in that regard)

[CJCRANE]

25. Have you seen "9/11:Press for Truth"

about the "Jersey Girls"?

There's plnety of disturbing information in it from mainstream sources, that has nothing to with giant lizards, jews, freemasons etc.
You're just muddying the waters by including these easy conspiracy theorist generalizations. All that stuff about lizards etc is just a throwback to the '90s - a (slightly) more innocent time when torture, pre-emptive war, warrantless wiretapping, extraordinary rendition etc weren't routine US policies.

[T_i_B]

26. Lizards?

All that stuff about lizards etc is just a throwback to the '90s - a (slightly) more innocent time when torture, pre-emptive war, warrantless wiretapping, extraordinary rendition etc weren't routine US policies.

Actually David Icke was one of the first, if not the first to proclaim 9/11 as an inside job on the part of the reptilians with his book Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center disaster. The Lizard man theory has been able to survive the war on terror quite easily, although it's still as wacky as ever. David Icke's crackpot theories ain't dead yet.

[CJCRANE]

29. Lizards !!!

I've been reading fairly extensively about 9/11 since it happened and never heard of that book!

on edit: David Icke's stuff is obvious nonsense and not something I'd even look at to be honest. My point is that his kind of "conspiracy theory" is out of fashion in the era of real and known atrocities and conspiracies such as Abu Ghraib, Plamegate, Abramoffgate, NSAGate etc.

[T_i_B]

31. I don't think Icke's gibberish is affected by fashion to be honest

People will take an interest in it whatever is going on simply because if nothing else it's so wacky.

And no, I wouldn't reccomend reading any of his books. Why? Well there are a whole number of reasons, the bad writing, the incoherent theories, the way he spouts nothing but bile for an entire book then comes out with a load of phoney pseudo-buddhist platitudes at the end of it all....

[MrPrax]

12. It does??????

Funny the report released by YOUR government just last May said that there was NO LINK to Al Qaeda. Just like the Spanish train bombs...

Is Blair's government lying?

IN FACT, the report makes the far more reasonable claim that the inspiration for homegrown jihadists was Britain's involvement in the Iraq war is clearly the findings of the report???

So why would you continue to promote BFEE propaganda that even your government doesn't agree with? Do you have some additional information or are YOU a lunatic with a crazy conspiracy theory about the London bombings?

Please don't waste our time with some reply citing stories talking about anonymously placed claims on internet sites as being PROOF -- since the British government doesn't accept it, I don't think anyone has to waste time dealing with wrong opinions gleaned from the gems of expert wisdom given out by Murdoch's world news services (UK wing).

Laughably you are making assertions that are not correct even in 2006, but you figure they WILL BE in --um-- 2012??

Is that how long you figure it will take to win the 'war on terrorism'? LOL

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

13. arkleseizure

Prax, I generally respect your posts, even though I disagree with most of what you say, but I can't fathom your current gibberish.

Is Blair's government lying?

Perpetually. What does that have to do with anything?


So why would you continue to promote BFEE propaganda that even your government doesn't agree with?

Way to beat him over the head with a stick. The fact of the matter is that regardless of whether or not there was an al Qaeda connection for the 7/7 bombings (and I, for one, believe that there wasn't - at least not directly) it did bear many of the hallmarks of an al Qaeda attack. Personally, I think the lack of an al Qaeda link is far more damaging to the UK gubmit than evidence that Osama bin Laden himself had planted the bombs.

As for your stupid gibberish about Murdoch, knock it off. You know better. Or at least you should.

And he's right about the MIHOP idiots. Not that you should need to be told that.

[MrPrax]

20. Wrong reply?

Or perhaps a fellow Brit trying to avoid coming to grips with the criminal deaths of nearly 600,000 innocent in Iraq because he doesn't want history to record that his British Labour Party alone in the world, slavishly supported what has been characterized as the 'worst presidency in American history' and a party identified with the most extreme elements of American society?

So your gonna tell us all about Al Qaeda eh?

Since MY gibberish as well as many many others has been consistently correct, and you can't even provide history with the corpse of Osama Bin Laden, I would suggest you pay more attention to people like me and less to folks running the security arrangements of our particular countries.

I don't believe they can be trusted anymore...do you believe you can they can?

Is anyone really suppose to take seriously conjure (outside of Sky News) that in 2012 the greatest threat will STILL be 'al qaeda' and not perhaps a full blown world war if we continue to allow the real lunatics to shout down people with little more than some vague notion that there are 'some people' out there that might harm us and they are 'al qaeda' when clearly the record (and indeed the point of my post which you obviously avoid ) is that EVEN the original promoters of their little 'narrative' don't believe that shit anymore and have moved on to much bigger 'narratives' involving a whole range of new players and new opportunities for a 'projection of power'.

At this rate, there probably won't be any 2012 Olympics regardless of whether you agree or not.

See what they have done to you -- you are forced to ignore the march to total war, the destruction of your rights, the humiliation of your hundred year old party and the empowering of forces that ultimately go to undermine the struggles of working people around the world...while you worry about a 3 week 'sport kegger' six years from now.

I'll stick to gibberish -- thx

You can stick with New Labour

[Richard Steele]

28. Yes, and they happened just a day before my mom's birthday!

An EQUALLY RELEVANT FACT that those (insert consonant)IHOP "lunatics"
refuse to "acknolege"!!!!

:silly: :crazy: :silly: :crazy: :silly: :crazy:

[soothsayer]

4. Ooh, shocker!

[hedgehog]

5. What about the Asian Games in Dubai this December?

I would think that a moderate Moslem state hosting athletic games with female participants is the most obvious target ever. I hope things go well, but I'm afraid this event will attract fanatics like bees to honey.

[T_i_B]

6. That may well be so...

But this is the Metropolitan police talking in this article, and they are concerned mainly with attacks on London. Good shout though!

[hedgehog]

10. I just hope this posting doesn't end up on CNN or with the FBI at my door

[Doctor_J]

7. You mean Smirk won't have wiped out Terra by then?

let's see, a billion dollars and 50 soldiers per week times 6 more years = yipes!

[Igel]

8. I read an article in the last few days that the

Muslim community's pissed because the games will be during Ramadan.

In the US press, "the holy month of Ramadan". In the Islamist press, "the month of jihad".

Should be interesting to watch.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

11. It doesn't matter when you hold the Olympics.

It's always going to end up being at the same time as some religion-or-other's damned special time of year.

[Igel]

16. Yes, but in this case

it's taken as an Offense against Islam. Something like a quarter of the athletes hail from Muslim countries.

Rather like putting the Winter Olympics over Xmas and New Year's as part of the "war on Xmas". (Not that I'd mind that in the least.)

[PsychoDad]

19. Offense against Islam

As a Muslim, I don't get the logic.

Ramadan does not cause the Muslim world to grind to a halt, nor should it. Muslim athletes participate in games during Ramadan.

I know that twisted and evil men need no real excuse to do violence, but I can't see the vast majority of Muslims buying into this.

Maybe the fear factor is not for Muslim consumption?

Maybe the US and Blair's government will be so successful at striking fear into the hearts of people that no one will attend.

Wouldn't that be bad for sales?

Peace.

On edit: I don't doubt that the olympics would make a tempting target for any group wanting attention. I just don't see where Muslims would be so upset at the timing of them.

But maybe it's just me. I'll keep an ear open and ask a diversity of folks at the Mosque, "what do you think"?

Maybe I can guage the real "outrage" if any.

Peace.

[kestrel91316]

14. Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really??????????

[Karenina]

15. How about concentrating on the "NOW?"

If we don't, there is no guarantee our societies will be in any shape to support overblown "games" 6 years from now.

[leesa]

17. It wouldn't be a target if you would stop invading nations and blowing

up their populations to steal their resources.

[saigon68]

18. Or Killing innocent people and GLOATING about it

[fedsron2us]

30. Just as well these Games are never going to happen

If the huge delays that have occurred on the construction of the new Wembley stadium in London are anything to go by then the Olympic village should be ready for use some time about 2050.

[TankLV]

32. Which one ISN'T?!?!

Tell us something new - they're ALL ALWAYS targets.

It's HOW you respond to the threat that counts.

So far, the REPUKES have failed - badly...